real boy boxing ;D

hi guys
possible we Asian(perhaps Malaysians) be like this ?

My Final Goal,he is big

Yes.

arh,some of my friend told me that we never achieve that,its kinda demotivated
how you all consider his body size?
Giant?Huge?Big?Small?
Hulk?Model?

Not huge. Lean and cut. Kick your friends in the nuts for me.

Wow. Champ gramps is in mighty fine shape. That bit with the calf raises just killed, so much better than a good portion of the--much younger--crowd in today's gym.

The audience looked bored as heck, though.

Lol. Sup man. Shoulder day for me soon. =P

ur friend know nuts about bodybuilding

he is moderately model sized in my opinion.
not giant, nor huge.
also, well, it depends on certain ppl.
some of us can train as hard as we can but never achieve it due to our genetic.
some can. genetic, hard work, and DIET

calm handsome
I believe and confidence on you
because they just told me Asian and Black People are different genetic
this black dude seriously can make 385 pounds bench and run 5 miles 6 days a week
freak me out
He looks kinda bulk in I,Robot
cheers
well i hope i got the chance
i just like his chest and arm
and have a tone abs

genetics is the only limiting factor. I think everyone can bulk up to about his size, genetics are for like the more extreme say u wana bodybuild and join competitions with uber bulging hulk like muscles.

i mean, ur not aiming to be the best ma, just aiming to be bigger, im sure thats not a problem. just EAT EAT EAT, train and sleep.

yea I am not going on the Hulk way
I get what you mean
just like Arnold Schwarzenegger the great and Ronnie Coleman,Jay Cutler etc...
these are born not made right ?

oh yes, of course i mean if you would want to isolate your shoulder muscle as much as possible, true.

But for us beginners (hehe) it is important that we do standing military press as it also give some stress to other bodyparts such as lower back, quads our balance etc etc, so that they get stronger over time.
same like Deadlift la for example.

but me myself i prefer siting military press.
there's much pro and cons la on this issue, depends on what you want to achieve.

and yes totally agree that dumbell shoulder press is the best of all,.
phewww...
by just thinking about it makes me wanna do some shoulder press now...
maybe tonight

Then it's not called seated military press anymore. It's called a seated barbell press. What if I tell you that the deadlift isn't necessary for bodybuilding too? Not saying it's a useless exercise. It's ok, I deadlift once every few months but I can definitely hold more than my own against the powerlifters here.

Your argument is kinda flawed bro. If you want to strengthen your lower back, you're trying to tell me that the military press should be done? The principle of specificity applies. Want to get bigger arms, do direct arm work. Want to get bigger shoulders, do direct shoulder work. Kinda simple isn't it? The problem with bodybuilding is that a lot of beginners tend to overanalyze too much.

I suggest Bob Cicherillo's JFT program for bodybuilding.

are you trying to be cute?

no no no, i think you misunderstood. im not saying to get stronger back you should do military press.
you're right bigger arms = work your arm, bigger back = work your back
i dont know how to put it in words but i know how it works in my head.
i'm not arguing bro, im not saying you're wrong, im just saying Military Presses are definetely not useless, well maybe not as effectively as dumbell shoulder presses.
but it helps you to gain strength on your overall body, your balances and your lower back.


and of course deadlift is not necessary for bodybuildings.
ton's of exercise that you can do to make your back grow without having to deadlift.
but it can help you build strength faster than any other type of lift, am i right?

btw whats your maximum weight for deadlift?

You still don't get it. Strength is secondary to bodybuilders, period. We don't really give a flying f*ck about core. We don't give a damn about flexibility and balance. Tell you what, you keep doing your military presses, I get another trainee say John91 to do db shoulder presses and 2 of you compare deltoids in a few months time.

You're arguing just for the sake of arguing. Fine, maybe USELESS is a bit too strong a word for military press but it's NOT the optimal exercise at all for bodybuilding purposes. Shall I give you the link to the EMG studies too?

K, tell you what, you go post in the IFBB section at bb.com touting the military press. Tell me what happens.

My max for deadlift is 135lbs.

Dude. chill, why are you getting so worked out over such a small matters?
no one is arguing, im just giving out opinion.
nvm, everyone has a different opinion.

Anyway was wondering whether when u guys do dumbell presses when standing, can u guys maintain ur body straight? Coz I dont think I can..Maybe I need to lower down the weight?