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Desvaro
post Dec 7 2009, 11:09 PM

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On the previous page I believe there was a discussion on complexes etc.

Well T-Nation released an article today, interesting read:

Complexes 2.0 — Optimize Your Fat-Loss Workouts
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post Dec 8 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Dec 8 2009, 09:34 PM)
Edit

i just read the article, i think i got the idea how to program it smile.gif

i normally do 1 set of complex to warm up before heavy lifting

comprise of

all done in Oly bar only

Overhead Squat 8reps-Rule 1 high skill applied
Good Morning 8reps- Rule 2 applied
Overhead Lunge 5reps each leg
Bent Over Row 8reps
Push Press 8reps

Result? Heart was beating just nice to begin the workout section tongue.gif
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So you used the complex as a warmup? Just curious cause you said 'to begin the workout section'
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post Dec 11 2009, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(bata @ Dec 11 2009, 04:22 PM)
anybody used salami, pastrami as part of their diet?
im looking as quick fix in-between meals, that would be a sandwich, its easy to serve and high in protein.
the only cons i see is high sodium?
any input?
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I actually have that for breakfast. Beef salami and pastrami.

My breakfast is also my pre-workout meal. I take it with 2 slices of bread, 1 piece of lettuce and 2 pieces of pastrami/salami.

Never really thought about it being high sodium until you mentioned it.
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post Dec 11 2009, 07:00 PM

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I get mine from Cold Storage, from those 'fresh meat' section where they will cut for you.

Unfortunately I do not have any nutrition information. All it comes with is a price tag. Sorry.
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post Dec 25 2009, 10:11 AM

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Florian don't waste your time arguing with him.

Clearly he's an expert because he reads articles on bb.com, t-nation and simplyshredded.


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post Dec 29 2009, 08:39 AM

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The reason you're not cooking your eggs is because it takes half an hour to cook eggs right?

Ever though of waking up 5 minutes earlier so that you have time to cook your eggs? Or how about boiling your eggs, while they're boiling go brush your teeth, and by the time you're done brushing, you'll have some boiled eggs.

WOW I BET NO ONE HAS EVER THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE.
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post Jan 3 2010, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(SticH @ Jan 3 2010, 10:08 AM)
Hello sirs, few questions here

1. 12x4 is that consider high rep low weight or vice versa?
2. What is the recommendation repetition for deadlift,benchpress and pulls up (beginner to advance)?

Thank you.


Added on January 3, 2010, 10:10 am
Is it pain around the kidney there? Haha I face it before and I think that's maybe because u dont exercise regulary and suddenly u go and jog? I have no idea why it occur though.  blush.gif
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1) If by 12 x 4 you mean 12 sets of 4 reps, then it's low rep high weights.

2) It's usually best if beginners start off by building strength, so usually sets of 5 reps. As for the pullups, it depends on how many you can do right now. And if you're gonna do pullups please do them with full range of motion - arms straight when you're at the bottom, and your chin clears the bar at the top.
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post Jan 5 2010, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ Jan 5 2010, 11:05 AM)
hey guys i've been cutting for 1 month now ( no High-GI carbs ie Rice, light cardio after workout , and i workout consistantly ) , but there's no significance reduce of waist line (still 34" ).

Is there any points you masters would like to point out to me without me getting flamed like a flame bait? Thanks in advance everyone wink.gif
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David, please post your diet, your cardio and weights routine, only then we can help you better. Otherwise everything will just be guess work =)

QUOTE(Black Judy @ Jan 5 2010, 04:11 PM)
Guys, i can only hit the gym 3 times a week due to time constrain, so i'm training my chest + tricep on the first day, back + bicep on the second, and how bout the third? shoulder+compound?
advice needed, thanks
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3 days a week, it's better that you stick to full body training, or Day 1 Upper Body, Day 2 Lower Body, Day 3 Upper Body, then the following week start with Lower Body etc. This would be more ideal. What are you training goals?
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post Jan 30 2010, 02:07 PM

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Does anyone here know where I can get a foam roller locally? The long foam roller.

Thanks
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post Jan 30 2010, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(tineagle @ Jan 30 2010, 07:29 PM)
Try looking in Weider stores, the one at Pyramid had some the last time i went.

They also have a better variety of bars and handles that attach to cables compared to fitness concept
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Do you know how much it costs?
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post Jan 31 2010, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jan 31 2010, 12:20 AM)
just get a PVC pipe, and you save your hardearn money

4" will do, smaller size for more "ohm"
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I'm using a tennis ball now, but I need a long foam roller to do thoracic spine work.
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post Feb 2 2010, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(lcsum @ Feb 2 2010, 10:36 AM)
I've been having sleeping problem lately after my workout. I will turn and toast, strugling for sleep for the whole night. Even until 6am can't sleep  cry.gif omg the next day I'll be tired and can't focus in my work and studies. Do any of you facing the same problem after workout?    icon_question.gif  Only will take a cup of coffee before my training could this be the culprite?
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What time do you weight train?

If your training is at very high intensity (i.e. doing heavy weights for low reps, attempting maxes etc), your nervous system will have problems relaxing, which is why you can't sleep.

Apparently taking magnesium supplements will help. I also have the same problem, but I haven't tried taking magnesium supplements yet.
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post Feb 23 2010, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Feb 23 2010, 07:40 PM)
Nope,having a shallow six pack with no muscle thickness is worthless,even if you manage to get it after 1 year of doing sit ups,how you think you gonna look??No arms,chest,back,legs,traps except a worthless 6 pack!
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This man speaks the truth
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post Mar 10 2010, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 10 2010, 10:34 PM)
no need to brag bro
to some people what you call weightlifting might be just as puny as a walk in the park
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how do u measure ur stress level bro?
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Seriously?
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post Mar 17 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(chiakm @ Mar 17 2010, 06:17 PM)
Guys, i'm a beginner who's 3 weeks into my training with the Max-OT program. I've been doing upright rows and recently i stumbled upon an article discussing the safety of upright rows here.
Do any of u experience any problems with ur shoulders after awhile? Need advice on whether i should continue with it.
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The safest alternative would be to do upright rows with a rope attachment, the type of rope you use for tricep pushdown.


But honestly, there are better exercises out there, especially if you value your shoulder health.
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post Mar 18 2010, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Mar 18 2010, 06:18 PM)
Nope, athletics training for the 100/200m sprint events.
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Not a good idea to weight train lower body on the day after sprints. Both are too CNS intensive. You could get away with sprinting in the morning and weight training in the evening, but not the other way around.

Since I highly doubt you can sprint in the morning and weight train in the evening, you're better off modifying your program to have 2 leg days, where one 'leg day' will be replaced by sprinting instead. Kind of like how Joe Defranco's earlier WS4SB version.

This of course assumes that you're training to be an athlete. If aesthetics if your goals then someone else could give you better ideas.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 18 2010, 07:36 PM)
but i like heavy cardio in afternoon where burn somewhere around 800-1200 calories and night play the weights
i thought in bb there's no extremism where things should be fixed?
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I mentioned in my post that it was intended towards athletic training, which was why I said 'If aesthetics if your goals then someone else could give you better ideas'.

I know this is the BB thread, which is why I'm not gonna elaborate unless you want me to, don't wanna go off topic

Btw, I don't play with the weights, I fight to lift them.

QUOTE(-Dan @ Mar 18 2010, 10:30 PM)
Yeah, definitely not a good idea. I was trying to see if I could get away with it. Obviously not. laugh.gif

I will have to mix around my training schedule, at least for the time being or until my competitions are over. I'll probably have my sprinting day on a Monday and my actual leg day on a Thursday or Friday.
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I'm not sure how serious this sprinting thing is for you. If you are serious about it, you might want to check out the works of Charlie Francis. Basically what he does is:

Monday/Wednesday/Friday - Sprints/Pylos in the morning, squats/powerclean/bench in the evening. I'm not saying those are the only exercises his athletes do.

Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday - Tempo runs

Again, sorry for going off topic, this is the BB thread after all.

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post Mar 28 2010, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Xerone @ Mar 28 2010, 10:00 PM)
If I don't have a wide shoulder/chest, it is still possible to broaden it with lots of back workouts? Or am I confined to that size because of the skeleton?
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I used to be a skinny mothaf*cka, 183cm and 56kg. Now I'm 188cm and 85kg. Girls tell me I have broad shoulders.

It's all about how much effort you're willing to put into it. But remember, the main reason you're doing this is for yourself. Your main motivation has to be yourself, not cause you want a 'hot bad so that chickz will be all over me lulz'.
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post Apr 2 2010, 08:59 AM

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Why were you even using 4113, use 4010. 4113 means you actually pause for 3 seconds at the top of each rep.

And next time, just drop the dumbbell on his feet, and say 'oops sorry im weak, couldnt hold onto the dumbbell'.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 2 2010, 11:02 AM)
oh silap letak
actually its 4030...ade negatives sket
and u just gave me ideas to drop the thing on him
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The first number is eccentric, second number is pause at the end of eccentric, third number is concentric, fourth number is pause at the end of eccentric.

I suggest you stick to 4010 for now, slow lowering but fast lifting.

I must say that most personal trainers are a joke, although there are 1 or 2 decent ones (they are the rare minority).

Just a short story - I used to go to FF at Manulife, but now I go to a different branch. Anyway one day I was doing face pulls, when this a$$hat trainer comes up to me and tells me that the ropes are for tricep pushdowns. I politely explain to him that I was doing face pulls, he gave me a blank look, so I decided to screw him even deeper by purposely using big words such as scapular retraction. His reaction was 'wow new concept, cool cool'.

Few months later, I was deadlifting. Same trainer comes over and tells me that deadlifting is not good, and that I should do Romanian Deadlifts instead. I was too tired to even say anything.

Anyway when I went to another branch, I befriended a trainer who is very good. He might not be the most knowledgeable, but he's always asking me to explain certain stuff that he sees me do, and the discussions are very interesting, I learn from him and he learns from me. His clients consistently get results, I see a lot of changes in less than 3 months.

So guess what, one day he asked me if I trained at any other FF branches, then I told him I used to train at ManuLife and about the a$$hat trainer there. Turns out mr A$$hat is the BEST SELLING PERSONAL TRAINER IN THE ENTIRE OF MALAYSIA. From the time I spent at ManuLife, all I can say is that he is more about 'entertaining' than training, his clients constantly talk and laugh DURING sets, so go figure.

Damn PTs

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