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post Dec 5 2009, 05:11 AM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Dec 4 2009, 10:09 AM)
That's because you don't mix and match your rep ranges and weights. Or either that you don't mix around your rest period. Or you've got bad form. My cousin who's 6'3 and weighs 82KG only, could deadlift 100KG for 5x3 after tweaking his form. Initially he was struggling with merely 50KG. Form is of utmost importance for safety and pulling max weights.
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is there any relations of how light you can be and how heavy you can pull?
for example can i stay 55kg and pull 200kg? LOL.

because in Oly lifts, light category lifters can do crazy weights too~

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Maybe i should try that or just do it monkey style,without using legs!

55Kg pulling 200kg sounds awesome but am not sure if its very realistic,you might wanna go up to 60!
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post Dec 5 2009, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(bata @ Dec 5 2009, 05:11 AM)
is there any relations of how light you can be and how heavy you can pull?
for example can i stay 55kg and pull 200kg? LOL.

because in Oly lifts, light category lifters can do crazy weights too~

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Well when you have good myofibrillar hypertrophy, you are able to do that. Myofibrils increase in number, thus causing the muscular strength to be much stronger. Slightly sarcoplasmic hypertrophy, but more of strength than looks. It's the weightlifter/gymnast/strength athlete muscle that is strong. The sarcoplasmic muscular growth, is the bodybuilder muscle which looks big but usually not as strong per mm.


QUOTE(pedro @ Dec 5 2009, 07:52 AM)
Maybe i should try that or just do it monkey style,without using legs!

55Kg pulling 200kg sounds awesome but am not sure if its very realistic,you might wanna go up to 60!
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Hehe....it's VERY realistic. There are, on my hands right now about 5 lifters I can think of that can SQUAT 200kg at 55KG. Not the crazily equipped powerlifter half squat. A real ATG 200KG. Halil Mutlu, Naim Suley, Long Qiquan, Wu Meijin, Yu Huanming, our current national weightlifting coach could do it too. Now don't think can d lah. Imagine if they can squat 200, how much can they deadlift? Now all you need to be, is a part of a very elite team of national weightlifters for countries like China, Russia, Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand and soon, Singapore.
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QUOTE(pedro @ Dec 5 2009, 07:52 AM)
Maybe i should try that or just do it monkey style,without using legs!

55Kg pulling 200kg sounds awesome but am not sure if its very realistic,you might wanna go up to 60!
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im over that, just asking, my 1RM not reach 150kg YET. lol.

QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Dec 5 2009, 12:43 PM)
Well when you have good myofibrillar hypertrophy, you are able to do that. Myofibrils increase in number, thus causing the muscular strength to be much stronger. Slightly sarcoplasmic hypertrophy, but more of strength than looks. It's the weightlifter/gymnast/strength athlete muscle that is strong. The sarcoplasmic muscular growth, is the bodybuilder muscle which looks big but usually not as strong per mm.
Hehe....it's VERY realistic. There are, on my hands right now about 5 lifters I can think of that can SQUAT 200kg at 55KG. Not the crazily equipped powerlifter half squat. A real ATG 200KG. Halil Mutlu, Naim Suley, Long Qiquan, Wu Meijin, Yu Huanming, our current national weightlifting coach could do it too. Now don't think can d lah.  Imagine if they can squat 200, how much can they deadlift? Now all you need to be, is a part of a very elite team of national weightlifters for countries like China, Russia, Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand and soon, Singapore.
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i think i watched your Youtube videos where 50kg lifters squat 140kg....woot...


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PB,what i meant is that its realistic for an athlete but might be a tad difficult for someone with a life to live!

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QUOTE(bata @ Dec 5 2009, 03:15 PM)
im over that, just asking, my 1RM not reach 150kg YET. lol.
i think i watched your Youtube videos where 50kg lifters squat 140kg....woot...
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Yeah, that guy trains about 5x a week only. Now, retired pretty much. Serious discipline problem. Suruh masok national team, kena tendang keluar.
Come on man.....dude, david89**** on this forum, already has a 150KG deadlift with about 4-5 weeks of training. Albeit he's heavier lah, but can do wan!

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PB,what i meant is that its realistic for an athlete but might be a tad difficult for someone with a life to live!

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Not really. There's a guy, Tom Goegebuer from Belgium that's a weightlifter/part-time medical physicist/physics and radiation physics student. He also managed to compete in the Olympics at the age of 33 yrs old. He's got a 200KG clean pull/deadlift. It's just the amount of dedication and how much you've SET the limit to youself. Shanecross is a student and works as well. He deadlifts 195KG for 5 and squats 190KG for 2 at about 71KG. Ken86 studies for his masters and works as well and deadlifts 220KG. There should not be a limit to what you are capable of.
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You're absolutely right in a sense,you 4 guys (PB,Ken,Shane,DL) are aspirations for me,your dedication is second to none.

And second thing is that you guys never cut corners or take shortcuts like the other people i know.
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Yeah, that guy trains about 5x a week only. Now, retired pretty much. Serious discipline problem. Suruh masok national team, kena tendang keluar.
Come on man.....dude, david89**** on this forum, already has a 150KG deadlift with about 4-5 weeks of training. Albeit he's heavier lah, but can do wan!
Not really. There's a guy, Tom Goegebuer from Belgium that's a weightlifter/part-time medical physicist/physics and radiation physics student. He also managed to compete in the Olympics at the age of 33 yrs old. He's got a 200KG clean pull/deadlift. It's just the amount of dedication and how much you've SET the limit to youself. Shanecross is a student and works as well. He deadlifts 195KG for 5 and squats 190KG for 2 at about 71KG. Ken86 studies for his masters and works as well and deadlifts 220KG. There should not be a limit to what you are capable of.
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sabarlah....my weights and strength drop so much after fasting, i deload deads back from 80kg..LOL...
not sure can reach 150kg b4 end of year or not, but 130-135kg is possible i think


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What's your opinion on this guys?


Done on alternate cardio days!
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post Dec 5 2009, 09:00 PM

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you need training weights for those.
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post Dec 5 2009, 09:04 PM

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Why??
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post Dec 5 2009, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Dec 5 2009, 08:35 PM)
What's your opinion on this guys?


Done on alternate cardio days!
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He's having a lot of fun indeed...man really liked when he just switch position of the barbell with that load from front side to back...its like hes throwing some pillow lol
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post Dec 5 2009, 11:34 PM

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Push press i though it has to execute with the hips? Tat looks like a standing barbell press. But 3 x 6x6 seems good biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE(jamis @ Dec 5 2009, 11:34 PM)
Push press i though it has to execute with the hips? Tat looks like a standing barbell press. But 3 x 6x6 seems good biggrin.gif.
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perhaps we should meet up and force each other to do it lol, u with TF jaya 33 right?
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post Dec 6 2009, 01:43 AM

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Some funny exercise shit.


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QUOTE(pedro @ Dec 5 2009, 08:35 PM)
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Done on alternate cardio days!
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Complexes are amazing. In weightlifting, we make complexes like a clean (1) + hang clean (1) + front squat (2) + jerk (2) or something like Snatch (1) + OH Squats (3) + Drop snatches (2). It only takes about 70% of the 1RM for 7-8 sets and that's it! Crazy workout. Then we'll move to squats or pulls. Excellent way to get a lot in a short time.

But you do know how to use complexes right? As in how their rep schemes and percentages work?

QUOTE(Florian @ Dec 6 2009, 01:43 AM)
Some funny exercise shit.


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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Dec 6 2009, 12:32 PM)
Complexes are amazing. In weightlifting, we make complexes like a clean (1) + hang clean (1) + front squat (2) + jerk (2) or something like Snatch (1) + OH Squats (3) + Drop snatches (2). It only takes about 70% of the 1RM for 7-8 sets and that's it! Crazy workout. Then we'll move to squats or pulls. Excellent way to get a lot in a short time. 
But you do know how to use complexes right? As in how their rep schemes and percentages work?
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Am learning on the go,help is always welcome.

70% sounds awfully heavy for what you listed!
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post Dec 6 2009, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 5 2009, 11:54 PM)
perhaps we should meet up and force each other to do it lol, u with TF jaya 33 right?
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Yeah i m TF@jaya33, i think u know me, u saw my dl video before lol. However nowadays i train in the morning for the fact that my boss love me when i stay back late without OT. May be find one day, then meet up lol then we can try tat exercise, i wonder wat else we can do aft those thrill. lol. by the way, wat time u train now?
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QUOTE(jamis @ Dec 6 2009, 01:46 PM)
Yeah i m TF@jaya33, i think u know me, u saw my dl video before lol. However nowadays i train in the morning for the fact that my boss love me when i stay back late without OT. May be find one day, then meet up lol then we can try tat exercise, i wonder wat else we can do aft those thrill. lol. by the way, wat time u train now?
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Well... been training during the day more or less around lunch hour ... (really nice to see no ppl in that gym lol) but as you know the parking is costly during the day... further more I'm about to get more busy with uni soon...so i've decided to revert back to night time...mostly 9pm onwards (after the mad crowd subsides) ... but for this week... taking a break...got injured while dipping.... now when i squat or deadlift or dips or triceps extension i feel the damn pain around my right chest... meh!
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Im in Jaya 33 True Fitness for month of december... Cause only Jaya has weight up to 150lb and more equipment

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