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 Squats : Which is better?, Squat rack + bar or squat machine?

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TSMuffins
post Sep 1 2009, 11:13 AM, updated 17y ago

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Been doing squats recently and up till now, have always been using the squat machine typically found in most gyms. Reason I use it is because it has the cushions for my back which help keep my back straight and aligned as well as the ability to change weights quickly, just select a plate, insert pin and go. Been semi-afraid of using the free weights and squat rack for fear of hurting myself with bad form or maybe toppling over (lol).

But here's the question, which is better? I've read that the barbell and squat rack is better since you utilize more muscle groups whilst balancing the bar on your traps compared to the squat machine where i don't have to worry about it that much. Anyone used both and noticed a difference? Or are they both more or less the same and work the same muscle groups?


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post Sep 1 2009, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Sep 1 2009, 01:28 PM)
If you're a bodybuilder, machines are tools as a means to an end. If building muscle is your goal, nothing wrong with the squat machine or the Smith. There are amateur and pro bodybuilders, natural and juicers who have never done free weight barbell squats but have legs which can rival and surpass any powerlifter, period. Evidence; Wong Hong, Dorian Yates, my friend Ernie (Mr Junior Malaysia) who's a natural, these guys don't do free weight barbell squats. Why waste time developing functional core? It's a waste of time, IF you're looking to gain pure muscle mass. My 0.02, don't ever get drawn into the hardcore mentality of free weights or go home. You'll be severely hampering your progress in muscle development.

However, if just purely strength is your goal, the free weight squats is your only option.
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Yep therein is the reason why I asked the question in the first place. My goal is to not just isolate the quads. Squats are a compound exercise meant to work major muscle groups. If i wanted to work on just my lower body alone i'd use the leg press machine and other isolation machines. I do squats as a full body workout so to speak. (Having nice quads is a big plus)

Darklight79 said "gain pure muscle mass" but he never specified only on my legs or all over? "if just purely strength is your goal, the free weight squats is your only option" also not very the clear (sry). Strength in my thighs or all over? I'm looking for balanced workout + body fat reduction so I'm aiming for the "all over" option.

Will using the machine (squat machine or Smith) be isolating only my thighs and ass or will it be also working the same supportive muscles (back, abs) that will be worked by using free weights instead? (More specific rewording of my original question biggrin.gif)

edit: NVM, found my answer in an old post on the bb.com forums. Guess I have to use the squat rack and a barbell. Balance and form are important for a beginner.

thx for the replies so far though, very informative. smile.gif

This post has been edited by Muffins: Sep 1 2009, 05:25 PM

 

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