utas is apparently quite a popular place with singaporeans...partly because the professional degrees (mbbs/llb/etc) are recognised....unlike the newer generation of unis, which spore is not so ready to recognise.....and it's the cheapest and easiest to enter, of the sandstone unis (don't mistake that for the go8)..........

i will get my relative to get in touch with you all, if his conditional offer becomes firm.....

he is just saying the politically correct thing.....

this education minister will go down in msian history as the worst, the least aware about issues, and the most political......decisions are made for political expediency than usefulness or good.......

as for the 'demand' for medical studies, he is of course complete off the mark with his comments....'demands' should be based on the needs of the country and society.....NOT student/parental demands and wishes.....but such concepts are probably alien to him.....

that is no excuse....he is the deputy pm, for crying out load....and probably will succeed najib as pm one day....

already discussed here......

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2048015

there was 2 licences issued, ramped through over objection by mmc this year.....and i think another 1 or 2 outstanding licences issued before the moratorium....

that is because it's the new mmc guideline, not their own choice.....most of them only want ccc in the past.....

maybe that's why the useless (sorry, but i have to be honest) minister of education is looking for more scholarships.....because there are ten's of thousands of interested students with adequate qualifications.....but no money.....it is obvious now he wasn't actually interested in meeting the 'demands' of students......but meeting the demands of med schools to fill all their places......

the ipts are running out of people with money and minimum qualifications....when the minimum was ccc, the net is cast wider.....now with bbb, they are stuck....

p/s.....i have always believed that if we hear some 'dumb' statements from politicians, it just sound dumb to us, because we do not know the real background and reason for the statement.....

i was wondering what the dpm/ed minister was trying to say.....i thought he was stupid/ignorant....

now i understand why he said that....and as usual, he is playing politics....he needs to keep the ipts med school owners happy and profitable, by ensuring they fill all their places....previously by low quality students with money....and now by some kind of scholarship/loans.....it's all about business and profits.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 22 2011, 11:52 PM

they still need to meet the 5b's in spm....although that would cast the net a lot wider than 3b's/3.0.......

yes, i foresee that to be the next BIG thing......in-house foundation/pre-med programmes leading to their own degrees.....un-moderated....it's easy to give everybody minimum bbb/3.0.........

it's already happening in some foundation programmes anyway....

shouldn't this be arranged by your uni, as is usually the case.....?

which med school are you in?....

if these postings are part of the course, it is the duty of the med school to arrange for it, and assign accordingly....otherwise, they are failing in their duties...

if it is however, not part of the official postings, and is like an elective, then you will have to arrange it yourself....

family/primary health means different things in different countries.....in uk/oz, that means gp's......in msia, where a big portion of primary healthcare is provided by the public sector, it can mean one of the gov walk-in polyclinics.....

however, it is quite different, the way things are done in a gp clinic compared to a gov clinic, so exposure to both is useful, and i know some ipta that includes both in their rotations....

what is mmi?

this relative of mine went through this earlier at sunway for clayton entry....if it is the same thing (it should be), it is then just a series of scenarios and you are asked to give your opinions....eg, how much do you think your parents should make decisions for you?....2 interviewers, one talking, the other just observing.....

vested interests out to make money.....and the biggest one yet is the new perdana uni.....almost all the students are gov sponsored, and the fees are 2-3 times other ipts.....ie your and my tax money officially transferred to the owners of perdana uni......

medical education...and eventually healthcare (guess who's the biggest owner of private healthcare in msia now...) all used to make money for cronies......

however, i disagree that the dpm is a clown.....see my comments a couple of pages earlier....he know full well the implications, and i am sure he benefits from all this in some way.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 28 2011, 07:07 PM

the biggest problem with postgraduate in oz, compared to the us, is the number of positions available....remember, the population of the us is 300 million, 15 times that of oz....

the us system is a more open system, with little control of how many residencies jobs there are....

the oz system is a very closed system, with the number of training positions closely controlled by the respective speciality bodies, who acts like trade unions, keeping specialists relatively short so there is excess and no downward pressure on salaries......but once you are in, you are set for life.....

ethnicity does NOT officially have a part to play...both in us and oz.....it would be illegal....

unlike some other countries......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Nov 1 2011, 12:01 PM

yes
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barriers are usually perceived when you are outside the system...once you are in the system (ie have residency rights in both countries), you will then just compete like everybody else....whether you are born citizen, naturalised citizen, or permanent resident, it does NOT matter, in these countries......after all, both country have 20-30% of their people NOT born in the country.....

as an update, i have been made to understand those with conditional offers from utas, the condition is atar95 minimum....so i suspect most will get converted into firm offers by mid december.....

the cerebral palsy is not due to the extravasation of fluid and drugs used for fever......but as usual, people like to believe different.....and media likes to sensationalise......

when people with ccc and cgpa 2.0 are accepted, it is quite pointless to conduct interviews.....

interviews are only of use to help differentiate and select the best candidates from a cohort of good students with equivalent excellent results.....

the problem with most ipts med schools currently is the inability to find enough 'qualified' students with money, after the minimum qualification requirement by mmc...that is why gov scholars are much sought after....they come with guaranteed funding, and are generally of better quality than private students.....

and why some med schools have resorted to provide 'scholarships' and loans....

the format is the same....

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Added on November 24, 2011, 3:50 pmquite a few will be of this calibre.....but it ends from this year....with the new mmc guideline, you will now need a minimum bbb and cgpa 3.0 to be allowed to read medicine......

of course that does not prevent the ipts conducting their in-house foundation programmes to adjust the results from 2.0 to 3.0 to comply.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Nov 24 2011, 03:50 PM

it is now pretty clear, the motivation to be a doctor is less important than the attributes that enables one to function efficiently as a doctor......

in the uk/oz context, the hazards placed along the application pathway is more than adequate to weed out the cursory, uninterested applicants, and they can safely assume those who reached the interview phase will have indeed adequate genuine interest in medicine.....

if that interest is still lukewarm at that stage, it will be easily picked up at the interview, in the body language....note that one of the 2 interviewers at the Monash interview stays quiet the whole time.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Nov 24 2011, 04:09 PM

the first and last are qualify exams....

the middle one is a postgraduate exam for specialisation...

what is your point?.....