Yeah, even when they were training(dun remember which one, the pre-match or the training session), everyone participated in that, and you know sometimes Scholes like to kick people from behind who just received the ball, he did it to Evra I think, and Evra complained to the coaching staff.. Scholes put his arm around him to calm him down but guess its just the way it is with him. Hard to change now.

i dun see Raymond Van Der Gouw as a failure mate, he had been no.2 to d great dane and whenever he was called up he hardly did any fakup if my memory serve me well. he knew it himself he will never be no.1 in our team & he never complaint bout that. 

Just looking at them on the pitch tells us that. PIG is an accident waiting to happen while Foster has a bit more confidence in his game. If PIG was potentially a first team GK for us, someone would have snapped him up instead of us first signing him on loan and then on a permanent basis to be a backup for us. Ben signed at the same time and SAF has always said he was a future English #1, while he never said the same with glowing confidence about Kuszczak. It's not about being English and all that because if that was the case Danny Simpson would have gotten a lot more chances at RB instead of Rafael last season.

Sure the GK position is different and we can't afford to make too many mistakes there, but judge Ben after 30 games or so.  You make it sound as if Foster fakap every single game for us which isn't the case. He's had 9, two were bad for him, but in the other games he look very assured and solid for us.

If we're talking about mistakes alone, then I'm sorry the likes of Rooney, Evra and Rio should be sold if we are to ever win a consecutive 4th title. Their stupid plays resulted in City getting chances(hit the post on Rooney's mistake, Rio nuff said, and Evra weak header lead to that Bellamy shot to the top corner). Heck, VDS is shit because of his fakap last season after that great run.. he was shaky as feck.. get rid. God knows where Fletcher would end up years ago if we didn't have a patient and someone like SAF looking further ahead/at the bigger picture rather than focusing on the 'now'.

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Added on September 22, 2009, 4:19 pmWe need to judge him over a period of time. If we judge every single player on just their first 10-15 games for us, we wouldn't have many great players here. Ronaldo one trick pony, Fletcher=Fergie's love child, Evra=Shit, Vida=slow etc.. Carrick didn't have many fans in his first few months too. I understand the GK position is a very important area and we can't afford to make too many mistakes there, but if he has 30-40 games, and only those two games he had where he was shit + another one or two, that ain't so bad right?

Fans are too impatient these days. The likes of Evra, Vida, Fletcher, O'Shea showed us enough over the years, but sadly we never learn.. we still judge them on their early performances and not wait till they had a consistent run in the side over a period of time..