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post Mar 19 2010, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 19 2010, 10:56 AM)
When new iPhone launch, N900 is long outdated, lol; You might want to consider MeeGo devices VS Android 3.X (or higher) devices VS iPhone.

Anyway, actually for now, so many phone has already beaten the iPhone. When iPhone first launch, no doubt, it was a "WOW!!!!!" and really make a BIG difference to the smartphone market, like a big difference in technology. But then, think again, iPhone 2G -> iPhone 3G -> iPhone 3GS, actually it's like minor/small updates, nothing exciting and more like squeezing people's money. Imagine bought 2G, then come out 3G, the SAME THING just with 3G, then 3GS, again like a small "facelift" model with some improvements. All this I call rubbish, pardon me.
They should drop and come out with TOTALLY NEW and again WOW the market, not keep doing minor updates,... (e.g. 3GSS? 3GX?)
And another major problem with iPhone... the battery!!! Try watch YouTube and see how risky and hard it is to change the battery, it's really stewpid and totally unfair to do this to the consumers.
Another thing is that it is very very "CLOSE" or very "restricted" device, and tell the truth, would you not want to jailbreak it?  tongue.gif

Now, I think the Android devices are moving really fast, and the community support and participation is superb. They even have overclock Moto Milestone processor! And the apps and games are coming up like crazy and fast, not to mentioned great ones. In Malaysia, probably it's less well known to the public as many might not be tech conscious and many are brand conscious, but I think with Sony brand bringing in Xperia X10, that would make a difference.
Besides, seems some Android devices already have flash support!


Added on March 19, 2010, 11:05 am

Actually, for now, many app is simply ported to N900~ Which makes it even faster.

We have PSX emulator, N64 Emulator, in the works.

PicoDrive ported (Sega Megadrive Emu)
SNES
GBA
GB

There's also other apps from older Maemo ported to Maemo5, and so on.

But I think the issue now is... the next major updated which will sort of change the structure of current Maemo OS? Wonder what will happen to all those apps currently available.

I think there're many apps/games ready for the next update, we just need to wait for the next major update to be released...
Oh darn! It's been so long....
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wait for maemo6 ... or future upgrading os.. sure can have better performance to fight againts
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Mar 19 2010, 01:54 AM)
CHANGE LOG?!

video call coming in next update!? drool.gif laugh.gif
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Noticed changes from the manual: thumbup.gif

- It will support internet video calls. Straight from contacts.
- Night Photo and Night Video modes.
- Video recording resolution support.
- Mail widget
- Official support of portrait mode in web browser.
- Native Geolocations support for web browser.
- Volume button can be set to either volume or zoom for browser.
- Themes for Smileys and Conversations.
- MfE support enhancements. (Can accept/decline meeting requests)
- SMS option only shows for mobile phone numbers. (not for landlines)
- File Manager allows sharing of any files. (no more need for Petrovich)
- Clear device data and restore settings option. (possibly full factory default)
- Group chat possible in Instant Messaging
- Search by typing for applications in App Launcher.
- Sticky tags for videos and photos.
- Away status for status of Contacts (page 52)
- Can disable Show Captured Video after finishing recording. (page 82)
- Media player now supports MAFW Plug-ins. (page 91)
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QUOTE(Ninja @ Mar 19 2010, 12:15 PM)
Noticed changes from the manual:  thumbup.gif

- It will support internet video calls. Straight from contacts.
- Night Photo and Night Video modes.
- Video recording resolution support.
- Mail widget
- Official support of portrait mode in web browser.
- Native Geolocations support for web browser.
- Volume button can be set to either volume or zoom for browser.
- Themes for Smileys and Conversations.
- MfE support enhancements. (Can accept/decline meeting requests)
- SMS option only shows for mobile phone numbers. (not for landlines)
- File Manager allows sharing of any files. (no more need for Petrovich)
- Clear device data and restore settings option. (possibly full factory default)
- Group chat possible in Instant Messaging
- Search by typing for applications in App Launcher.
- Sticky tags for videos and photos.
- Away status for status of Contacts (page 52)
- Can disable Show Captured Video after finishing recording. (page 82)
- Media player now supports MAFW Plug-ins. (page 91)
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Woops!! Night mode for photo and file sharing! awesome shit! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jloi @ Mar 19 2010, 12:38 PM)
Woops!! Night mode for photo and file sharing! awesome shit! biggrin.gif
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Would be even better if allow us to adjust shutter and aperture tongue.gif
Oh oh, and manual focus would be nice too.
Video should have manually activated focus during capture, that's be nice.

Still no news about ringtone contacts, contacts grouping? Official MMS? SMS storing/archiving and other features available to most phones today.

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andy214, u r damn correct!

dat how apple make money from their devices
dun put all goodies, upgrade it slowly
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 19 2010, 10:56 AM)
When new iPhone launch, N900 is long outdated, lol; You might want to consider MeeGo devices VS Android 3.X (or higher) devices VS iPhone.

Anyway, actually for now, so many phone has already beaten the iPhone. When iPhone first launch, no doubt, it was a "WOW!!!!!" and really make a BIG difference to the smartphone market, like a big difference in technology. But then, think again, iPhone 2G -> iPhone 3G -> iPhone 3GS, actually it's like minor/small updates, nothing exciting and more like squeezing people's money. Imagine bought 2G, then come out 3G, the SAME THING just with 3G, then 3GS, again like a small "facelift" model with some improvements. All this I call rubbish, pardon me.
They should drop and come out with TOTALLY NEW and again WOW the market, not keep doing minor updates,... (e.g. 3GSS? 3GX?)
And another major problem with iPhone... the battery!!! Try watch YouTube and see how risky and hard it is to change the battery, it's really stewpid and totally unfair to do this to the consumers.
Another thing is that it is very very "CLOSE" or very "restricted" device, and tell the truth, would you not want to jailbreak it?  tongue.gif

Now, I think the Android devices are moving really fast, and the community support and participation is superb. They even have overclock Moto Milestone processor! And the apps and games are coming up like crazy and fast, not to mentioned great ones. In Malaysia, probably it's less well known to the public as many might not be tech conscious and many are brand conscious, but I think with Sony brand bringing in Xperia X10, that would make a difference.
Besides, seems some Android devices already have flash support!


Added on March 19, 2010, 11:05 am

Actually, for now, many app is simply ported to N900~ Which makes it even faster.

We have PSX emulator, N64 Emulator, in the works.

PicoDrive ported (Sega Megadrive Emu)
SNES
GBA
GB

There's also other apps from older Maemo ported to Maemo5, and so on.

But I think the issue now is... the next major updated which will sort of change the structure of current Maemo OS? Wonder what will happen to all those apps currently available.

I think there're many apps/games ready for the next update, we just need to wait for the next major update to be released...
Oh darn! It's been so long....
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So..... guys...... do you think n900 is worth buying? since it will be outdated VERY SOON.... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Mar 19 2010, 08:22 PM)
So..... guys...... do you think n900 is worth buying? since it will be outdated VERY SOON....  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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To be honest, with technologies moving so fast, if you want to keep update to the latest, it's very hard; One thing you can do is decide the best device for "yourself" not others.
Every phone design is different, even they may have very similar design, like the N900 and Motorola Milestone, but still there're some people prefer N900 while some prefer the Milestone.
If design is not a factor for you, then look at what's important for yourself and what fits you most.

The N900 and Milestone only have 5MP camera for example, while the X10 have 8MP cam and have 1Ghz snapdragon processor. The X10 seems more updated than the other 2, but it lacks qwerty keyboard; it depends how important is each to the buyer/owner.

To me, even tough I've known the N900 lacks of capacitive touch screen, multi-touch capabilities, AMOLED or SUPER AMOLED, could have been better with 1Ghz processor and also more RAM; but most important is whether it is good and efficient. No point a phone have 1 Ghz processor if it's slow and laggy right? Most important is it works fine, the resistive touch screen works fine for me too (who care if it's resistive or capacitive; if one does not know, he/she just care whether it works nicely), the display is OK too altough would hope it can do better under sunlight condition. The key point here is whether the things work fine or good enough. Of course, more is better and always welcome. icon_rolleyes.gif
Besides, the N900 have Infra Red, FM Transmitter, which isn't commonly available. You don't always find a device with these available; I'd say it's a great device.

Ok, to make it simple and short:
If you're worry about outdated, then get the latest phone and NEVER follow up news of any new phones icon_rolleyes.gif
If not, go check out the real thing yourself, you might get yourself an answer if you really like the phone.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Mar 19 2010, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Mar 18 2010, 02:02 AM)
Can...just use the mouse pointer mode in browser to highlight and ctrl+c n ctrl+v like in pc icon_rolleyes.gif
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how to activate the mouse pointer mode?


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QUOTE(kiawin @ Mar 19 2010, 11:27 PM)
how to activate the mouse pointer mode?

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In web browser?

Just slide your stylus or finger from the left side of the screen (non-display area) to the display area.


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http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/niko-th...-take-over-twi/

Niko, the N900-powered Lego robot, looks poised to take over Twitter (video)

While we've seen no shortage of smartphone-powered robots in the past, the Nokia camp has been sadly under-represented. But, there's a new one coming to balance things out, a machine called Niko that has Lego Mindstorm NXT 2.0 components for a body and an N900 for a brain. The bot has been under construction for a few weeks but it has just made its YouTube debut with the short video posted after the break, showing it roving around and taking a photo whenever it bumps into something. When all systems are go and the machine is set free Niko will be posting messages and pictures to Twitter describing its every move in thrilling detail. We can't wait for it to start picking fights with @CourtneyLoveUK.

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Seem the both milestone and N900 are going to launch same price but we will see who gives free goodies then.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 19 2010, 11:17 PM)
To be honest, with technologies moving so fast, if you want to keep update to the latest, it's very hard; One thing you can do is decide the best device for "yourself" not others.
Every phone design is different, even they may have very similar design, like the N900 and Motorola Milestone, but still there're some people prefer N900 while some prefer the Milestone.
If design is not a factor for you, then look at what's important for yourself and what fits you most.

The N900 and Milestone only have 5MP camera for example, while the X10 have 8MP cam and have 1Ghz snapdragon processor. The X10 seems more updated than the other 2, but it lacks qwerty keyboard; it depends how important is each to the buyer/owner.

To me, even tough I've known the N900 lacks of capacitive touch screen, multi-touch capabilities, AMOLED or SUPER AMOLED, could have been better with 1Ghz processor and also more RAM; but most important is whether it is good and efficient. No point a phone have 1 Ghz processor if it's slow and laggy right? Most important is it works fine, the resistive touch screen works fine for me too (who care if it's resistive or capacitive; if one does not know, he/she just care whether it works nicely), the display is OK too altough would hope it can do better under sunlight condition. The key point here is whether the things work fine or good enough. Of course, more is better and always welcome.  icon_rolleyes.gif
Besides, the N900 have Infra Red, FM Transmitter, which isn't commonly available. You don't always find a device with these available; I'd say it's a great device.

Ok, to make it simple and short:
If you're worry about outdated, then get the latest phone and NEVER follow up news of any new phones  icon_rolleyes.gif
If not, go check out the real thing yourself, you might get yourself an answer if you really like the phone.
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WoW ! thumbup.gif U are so professional ! I think u had answered most of my doubt.

Alright. I think what i want the most is GPS, Wifi, touch, camera(least important) and SMOOTH(most important)

So andy.. N900 qualifies all my requirement right? from what u wrote, i think u r an owner of n900, so overall, it works fine right? any problems that u face?
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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Mar 20 2010, 10:23 AM)
WoW !  thumbup.gif  U are so professional ! I think u had answered most of my doubt.

Alright. I think what i want the most is GPS, Wifi, touch, camera(least important) and SMOOTH(most important)

So andy.. N900 qualifies all my requirement right? from what u wrote, i think u r an owner of n900, so overall, it works fine right? any problems that u face?
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I guess the only thing i missed from my winmo days is garmin smile.gif
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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Mar 20 2010, 10:23 AM)
WoW !  thumbup.gif  U are so professional ! I think u had answered most of my doubt.

Alright. I think what i want the most is GPS, Wifi, touch, camera(least important) and SMOOTH(most important)

So andy.. N900 qualifies all my requirement right? from what u wrote, i think u r an owner of n900, so overall, it works fine right? any problems that u face?
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thanks! just hope it helps, most important if you like the phone, suits you and don't regret later.
whichever phone u get, learn more about it and utilize it, make it worth. each phone also have it advantages or appealing points unless we're rich and don't mind carry many phones, maybe we can get each hahaha. too bad nobody come out with the best of everything, so we can just chnoose the closest thing that is best for us.

in terms of gps, n900 currently really lacks of great gps software especially those we use often like garmin or papago. not sure how long or will it be available in future as this maemo5 os is only available on 1 phone now. i doubt those companies will want to specially develop or port one for the n900... so if gps is the top priority, u might want to consider again.
wifi is no problem, touch is not a problem too plus is super accurate and u can use ur nail, its less sensitive but i kinda prefer like this, too sensitive can be annoying too depends on individual or probably need some time to get used to.
camera is decent, need to play around with the settings to capture better quality,its alsohave quite some noise and the white balance needs some improvements. but all these i suppose can be improve/fix through software updates. would be great if it has more advanced settings.

smootheness... oh yes, it's great! i mean, its sick! it has nice and smooth transition, look and feel nice. the user interface looks sick too, very nice desktop concept and design, like no other phones in the market.

problems?
well, sometimes the phone can get quite laggy due to some app taking up the processing power or when u first connected to the internet and all the updates and login running in background. the thing with smartphones (any smartphones) is tha u have too have some patience and understand whats going on and adapt to it. if hyou see its laggy, find out whats wrong and don't keep press and press or reset the phone, just like a computer, some ppl just hit the power buttom.

other problems are mostly software problems which can be fixed/improved in newer updates.
like the lack of contacts grouping, individual contacts ringtone assign, basic phone funtion, etc.
lack of apps and updates cry.gif
seeing android getting so many updates and cool apps/games is really uneasy hehe, making me more impatient with the next update for n900. cry.gif

for hardware part, i just wish it comes with more ram and also faster processor. but it's still a great and awesome device nonetheless.

oh btw, this is posted through n900.The beauty of having a qwerty keyboard!
p/s? forgive me for any spelling mistake.


Added on March 20, 2010, 11:46 am
QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Mar 20 2010, 08:15 AM)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/niko-th...-take-over-twi/

Niko, the N900-powered Lego robot, looks poised to take over Twitter (video)

While we've seen no shortage of smartphone-powered robots in the past, the Nokia camp has been sadly under-represented. But, there's a new one coming to balance things out, a machine called Niko that has Lego Mindstorm NXT 2.0 components for a body and an N900 for a brain. The bot has been under construction for a few weeks but it has just made its YouTube debut with the short video posted after the break, showing it roving around and taking a photo whenever it bumps into something. When all systems are go and the machine is set free Niko will be posting messages and pictures to Twitter describing its every move in thrilling detail. We can't wait for it to start picking fights with @CourtneyLoveUK.

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check out N900 push technology and what they're doing. it's simply amazing!
thwy're controlling ao many type of thing using the N900!

This post has been edited by Andy214: Mar 20 2010, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 20 2010, 11:42 AM)
thanks! just hope it helps, most important if you like the phone, suits you and don't regret later.
whichever phone u get, learn more about it and utilize it, make it worth. each phone also have it advantages or appealing points unless we're rich and don't mind carry many phones, maybe we can get each hahaha. too bad nobody come out with the best of everything, so we can just chnoose the closest thing that is best for us.

in terms of gps, n900 currently really lacks of great gps software especially those we use often like garmin or papago. not sure how long or will it be available in future as this maemo5 os is only available on 1 phone now. i doubt those companies will want to specially develop or port one for the n900... so if gps is the top priority, u might want to consider again.
wifi is no problem, touch is not a problem too plus is super accurate and u can use ur nail, its less sensitive but i kinda prefer like this, too sensitive can be annoying too depends on individual or probably need some time to get used to.
camera is decent, need to play around with the settings to capture better quality,its alsohave quite some noise and the white balance needs some improvements. but all these i suppose can be improve/fix through software updates. would be great if it has more advanced settings.

smootheness... oh yes, it's great! i mean, its sick! it has nice and smooth transition, look and feel nice. the user interface looks sick too, very nice desktop concept and design, like no other phones in the market.

problems?
well, sometimes the phone can get quite laggy due to some app taking up the processing power or when u first connected to the internet and all the updates and login running in background. the thing with smartphones (any smartphones) is tha u have too have some patience and understand whats going on and adapt to it. if hyou see its laggy, find out whats wrong and don't keep press and press or reset the phone, just like a computer, some ppl just hit the power buttom.

other problems are mostly software problems which can be fixed/improved in newer updates.
like the lack of contacts grouping, individual contacts ringtone assign, basic phone funtion, etc.
lack of apps and updates  cry.gif
seeing android getting so many updates and cool apps/games is really uneasy hehe, making me more impatient with the next update for n900.  cry.gif

for hardware part, i just wish it comes with more ram and also faster processor. but it's still a great and awesome device nonetheless.

oh btw, this is posted through n900.The beauty of having a qwerty keyboard!
p/s? forgive me for any spelling mistake.


Added on March 20, 2010, 11:46 am

check out N900 push technology and what they're doing. it's simply amazing!
thwy're controlling ao many type of thing using the N900!
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Hmm... which phone u suggest if gps is needed? n97mini ok?
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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Mar 20 2010, 01:23 PM)
Hmm... which phone u suggest if gps is needed? n97mini ok?
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n97 mini can use garmin for now...
later n900 should be ok one... just wait the latest garmin annoucement

n900 next week price drop some, 1880 can get for ap new set... woohoo brows.gif
who wan buy is time to buy it.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(x132755 @ Mar 20 2010, 03:04 PM)
n97 mini can use garmin for now...
later n900 should be ok one... just wait the latest garmin annoucement

n900 next week price drop some, 1880 can get for ap new set... woohoo  brows.gif 
who wan buy is time to buy it.. laugh.gif
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garmin is best gps software? Btw, how you know all the prices? hmm.gif
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Garmin is good but since got the free nokia maps...i've been using it too..plus the google maps street live view is good too

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