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 Nokia N900 launched!, N Series with Maemo 5 on board

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Andy214
post Mar 28 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(Ahjosh @ Mar 28 2010, 12:21 AM)
thanks ya....can d....^^......by the way....what is the latest firmware update for meamo 5????><....i just update to the latest firmware...it's bout 97.3mb space to dl the file.....then when is installed....it is more faster than when i 1st got it.....
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The next major update is coming very soon, but not sure why it hasn't come and the N900 has launched in Malaysia and Singapore! So, does it mean the Malaysian and Singapore users will need to manually update it anytime soon? Plus, I think there're quite some improvements in the next update, it's seems like not a wise move to launch before the major update.
Even the milestone official set comes with Android 2.1.

QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ Mar 28 2010, 12:30 AM)
Got my N900. Picked it up at The Gardens. The person in-charge asked for my IC to verify my identity.

So many things to explore in this phone biggrin.gif I'm taking my sweet time to try everything slow and steady tongue.gif
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Congratulations! Did you get the DC-11?

And can you check your firmware version?
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post Mar 28 2010, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(amdx @ Mar 28 2010, 10:59 AM)
i beg to differ. maemo OS has been in the market for quite somewhile (say 4 years?), I used to own the nokia N800 internet tablet in year 2007 (tat was after 1 year+ launched in US in year 2006), and Nokia made a big improvement on Maemo OS 2008 during that time. I was really really impressed with the overall performance of my N800 that time, multi task and hey.. it's a linux in the box. just add repository from the community site, you will be able to download tonnes of application for the Maemo.

i'm the early participant in this N900 pre-order, and to be honest... i'm very excited about it. but impression changed after i played with it in pavilion yesterday evening. the OS is still unstable, missing icons in the camera apps itself, intermittently hanging issues. To the unbearable extent, i got to launch the terminal to kill the camera app. to force it to close.I would expect a stable OS before Nokia put it on the shelf, the price is not few hundreds, we are talking about RM2.3k here. no doubt it's a mini computer with phone feature, but atleast Nokia should solve the in-built applications before they launched or sell it to the consumer. N900 is not ordinary smartphone like symbian or iphone, it's a device for tech savvy consumers.

after played with it around 20 minutes (mind you, the device i played with was hooked on a big LCD tv, those looking at the screen would know what is happening to its OS), I decided not to get it until it is stabilized.

just my 2 cents, no offence ok. hey.. i'm one of the maemo fans too! and I knew nokia will sorted this out soon. looking forward on that.
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That's why I've been saying, they should have wait for the latest "major" update which is coming very soon, before they launch officially in Malaysia. I honestly don't know what's the rush to launch since the major update is just around the corner, besides, there're 2 apps in the repositories which are PR1.2 ready (based on the PR1.2 SDK). To be able to install it, we will need to wait for the latest firmware update.
Plus, there're quite a lot of changes to the User Guide/Manual itself (for the latest update that is).

As for the problems you're facing:
1. Is the unit you tested a new device, just boot for the 1st time? If yes, I do experience some lagging issue during 1st boot up. Give it some time to settle down, everything sets in. Or try restarting the device.
2. If the unit is the display unit, it depends if the unit has been messed with before and how long has it been running. Sometimes, some apps tends to occupy the memory/processing, best to install the System Info widget which allows you to monitor the processor and ram usage. Sometimes, after a restart, the phone will perform smooth again. It's just like a PC, sometimes just do a restart and the performance will be back again.

Honestly, it's no point just to judge based on a short test especially if you're a smartphone users, more if you have used the previous Maemo device before; but yea, I do agree, it's not stable enough compare with other mobile OS, but hey, even N97 has many problems when it first launch, so does few other Symbian smartphones. Plus, the N900 wasn't initially planned for Asia released; I guess they kind of rush it? If they want to launch, should've launch it earlier, if they plan to launch now, should've just wait for the PR1.2 update. Honestly, don't know what is Nokia Malaysia/Singapore thinking, probably they look from marketing point of view? To compete with Milestone and other device which also launch around the same time, so they rather not wait for the updates, and take the risk of having a bad image/reputation? They put great advertisements and boast about the greatness of the phone, but many might not know that this phone lacks of basic phones features, and still has many things to improve... At least the PR1.2 would solve some of the issues.
Too bad then, and they need to expect the Customers to know more of this phone and update the phone pretty soon.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 28 2010, 12:13 PM)
I think its over priced.

4GB Class 4 - RM 49
8GB Class 4 - RM 78
16GB Class 2 - RM 195

NEW
16GB Class 10 - RM 379

Source http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1211610
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I bought my 16GB for around RM160++ quite some time ago.


Andy214
post Mar 28 2010, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(amdx @ Mar 28 2010, 05:30 PM)
andy214,

yeah. and the nokia staff told me it wasn't stable yet when i popped out my question to them.

isn't it ironic? i think they need to place a product specialist especially on a device like this, when they trying to push to consumer. enquiries were left unanswered to convince potential buyer to fork out the money?

hoping the unit i tested was the problem unit. smile.gif overall... still a great mini computer, design and build were top notch.
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Totally agree! They need to place a product specialist, one that's familiar with this device, the technologies and knows what's the selling point of this device, also have experience and knowledge on the other competitor to pin point the specialty and uniqueness of this device, such as the Desktop concept, while others are using the simple Home Screen.

Problem is, even for Symbian device, their sales staff which I encountered before aren't really experience or knows in depth of the phone itself. They have the device all to themselves to play, learn, etc. but seems they never really do, perhaps when hiring, they need to find those that have interest in mobile? This is also same case in other industry, such as cars, usually the buyer knows more than the sales person, and sometimes the sales person cannot answer the questions and always refer to the brochure... They're given opportunity to test the car, explore, play with the car, yet they don't know much about the car, while those people interested buyer would want to test drive as many times as possible.

Anyway, previous I've posted this as well, in YouTube, you can see those people who went for the N900 launching, they really, I mean, REALLY question the sales staff with technical questions, and I'm impress the sales staffs there can really answer many of the technical questions. All these are recorded on videos. I wonder what happen if we ask those questions over here, laugh.gif

One thing good is, many owners here will survey and do their own research on the device before actually purchase, and we have the members/community to support, share and help each other. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif


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post Mar 29 2010, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Mar 28 2010, 08:04 PM)
GLAD IT IS =)


Added on March 28, 2010, 8:04 pm
Btw, Andy, mind showing some of the very imformative videos? i searched n900 and alot results pop out @@
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One of my favourite, contains good and bad of the phone and also talks about those that might not be suitable for this phone and finally, the power of the device:


Here's another video, see how this guy push N900 to the limit in multi-tasking (this is part 2 actually):

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QUOTE(raoul @ Mar 29 2010, 03:11 PM)
I have tested Youtube on N900 and it seems the video lagged and then freeze after few seconds of streaming.

Any owner care to share ?
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Don't play straight away, flash videos seems take up some resources. Wait a while and try to play, it should get smoother, but hard to get super smooth. Hopefully the next update will fix this issue, and not sure if there will be Flash v10 support drool.gif

Sometimes when the phone is slow (usually after few days never restart), might cause some lagging problem as well, to make it simple, a restart will improve the phone performance again.
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post Mar 29 2010, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Mar 29 2010, 03:24 PM)
n900 should restart frequently?

btw a phone should be on 24 hours or off it during sleepy time? does it make any difference?  hmm.gif
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That depends, if it's running smoothly, there's not really need to restart; But if you face auto-restart problem, you should check the bootcount and manually restart to prevent some problems; Install HealthCheck which can help you check the Boot Count.

I think nowadays most people don't off the phone during sleep. Not sure how many still does it.

QUOTE(raoul @ Mar 29 2010, 03:32 PM)
Read that the next firmware PR1.2 will have option to free the memory usage.
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