Nokia N900 launched!, N Series with Maemo 5 on board
Nokia N900 launched!, N Series with Maemo 5 on board
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Feb 17 2010, 03:02 PM
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my update via OTA seems smooth. nothing affected. luv digi
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Feb 17 2010, 03:46 PM
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it is seem like my n900 is warm even without using it. usually i put it in my pocket. why eh? is it dangerous or effecting my fon?
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Feb 17 2010, 04:07 PM
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my uk set of n900 says no updates available ^^
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Feb 17 2010, 04:16 PM
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Feb 17 2010, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(kiawin @ Feb 17 2010, 03:02 PM) I read it depends on the apps you've installed from devel. From maemo-talk, they mentioned Open-Arena as one of the apps that preventing OTA updates, thus requiring NSU which will flash the device. Some owners have too many apps using up the rootfs causing not enough memory to perform OTA updates. Guess Nokia still hasn't overcome this "low memory" issue which is one of the biggest drawback for Nokia Smartphones, especially the one I've owned before. My N81 internal memory/ram is even less than the old old N95, which is kind of sick especially when I try to install NGage Arena and Nokia Maps, left about 6MB internal memory and slowly reducing as I use. That's also one reason prevented me from getting N97. But anyway, N900 has pretty decent ram, although would be better to have 512MB as current smartphones having. Just a nice to have; Wonder if "upgrade" is possible, lol; they should make it like laptop rams which is upgradeable. QUOTE(en_mizi @ Feb 17 2010, 03:46 PM) it is seem like my n900 is warm even without using it. usually i put it in my pocket. why eh? is it dangerous or effecting my fon? As drexar have mentioned, check if any apps is running, especially widgets; You can try install "Conky" which is a great monitor for CPU, RAM, etc. or you can install the "System Info Widget" which can show you the processor and ram usage on your desktop.Sometimes, after maybe 1-2 or more days never off the phone, I don't know what's running in the background, the battery life seems like drain faster. After a restart, it seems better already. Can't seem to find any apps running. QUOTE(Ash @ Feb 17 2010, 04:07 PM) AFAIK, I don't think it's region based? It should be universal.Perhaps the update server is down or the Update Manager fail to obtain the update info? You can re-try again. I also read in maemotalk forum, some is able to detect the update after a restart. This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 17 2010, 04:50 PM |
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Feb 17 2010, 06:56 PM
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if you are connected 3G of course it will be hot....
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Feb 17 2010, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(drexar @ Feb 17 2010, 04:16 PM) that depends on what apps are running in the background.. (for example facebook widget). How long ur phone battery last? 8 hrs if i enable:a) facebook widget b) im : gmail and facebook c) email sync every hour..... d) 3g on actually just bought it yesterday, still not finish exploring my phone. |
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Feb 17 2010, 10:08 PM
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LG will be the new MeeGo OS! If you not know Meego is Maemo and Moblin Join Forces.
LG GW990 is the first mobile to be using MeeGo OS! N900 have a new competitor in TOWN! ![]() This post has been edited by GaminPro: Feb 17 2010, 10:08 PM |
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Feb 17 2010, 10:45 PM
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holy crap... LG... chocolate style...
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Feb 17 2010, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 17 2010, 05:35 PM) I read from maemo-talk.org, the OTA is just minor updates and everything should be still intact, and there is like 2 restart required (auto). You have to reinstall apps and reconfigure desktop too? Mmmm... next time I have to becareful already, hehe. I had to reinstall apps etc because I reflashed the phone after the OTA upgrade bricked it. |
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Feb 17 2010, 10:58 PM
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Feb 18 2010, 01:12 AM
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hey guys about changing the ringtone, msg tone and alarm tone? anyone discovered how to chg to our custom ringtones like the other nokia gadgets?
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Feb 18 2010, 01:16 AM
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Feb 18 2010, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(GaminPro @ Feb 17 2010, 11:08 PM) LG will be the new MeeGo OS! If you not know Meego is Maemo and Moblin Join Forces. MeeGo is a combination from Moblin (Intel) and Maemo (Nokia). People say MeeGo is actually Maemo 6LG GW990 is the first mobile to be using MeeGo OS! N900 have a new competitor in TOWN! ![]() |
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Feb 18 2010, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Feb 18 2010, 01:18 AM) As I follow the meego-dev mailing list, maemo6 is just share the same API as meego, but it is not equals to meego.The essence of same API means, App developer need not worry about the transformation from maemo core to meego, as the application is created on top of the standard API shared by both maemo6 and meego. I think MeeGo will still have a long way to go (perhaps a year?) before it is implemented in a commercial product. Google tells that the "MeeGo" LG phone is actually a atom-powered moblin phone. If you check carefully, you will notice MeeGo stays conceptual for the mean time. In simple conclusion, MeeGo will be the upcoming platform, but not now, or in the next few months. |
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Feb 18 2010, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Feb 17 2010, 10:49 PM) Aaah, miss that, hehe QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Feb 18 2010, 01:18 AM) I read it's Maemo6 + Moblin2.Nokia will sort of re-brand the next gen Maemo to MeeGo it seems. No point launching so many types of OS. The bad news is, seems in MeeGo official site FAQ, MeeGo will support rpm file type rather than deb (which current Maemo is using). So,... sharing is a problem between current Maemo with the upcoming MeeGo? Perhaps they might think of something... But Qt apps should work on any OS which supports Qt libraries. Plus, it's still unknown if N900 will be able to upgrade to MeeGo? But I still prefer the name Maemo. Anyway, saw the upcoming apps and games for N900 in YouTube. They show a 3D game which is said the best available 3D on ANY mobile phones in the market. Can't wait for the next "major" update; You can watch Qt4.6 demo in YouTube, you can see N900 with Potrait mode demo as well as cool Qt4.6 applications and rendering which even runs on the good old N95 (which the doom a-like game seems render faster than N97). Added on February 18, 2010, 1:49 am QUOTE(kiawin @ Feb 18 2010, 01:28 AM) As I follow the meego-dev mailing list, maemo6 is just share the same API as meego, but it is not equals to meego. Mmm...The essence of same API means, App developer need not worry about the transformation from maemo core to meego, as the application is created on top of the standard API shared by both maemo6 and meego. I think MeeGo will still have a long way to go (perhaps a year?) before it is implemented in a commercial product. Google tells that the "MeeGo" LG phone is actually a atom-powered moblin phone. If you check carefully, you will notice MeeGo stays conceptual for the mean time. In simple conclusion, MeeGo will be the upcoming platform, but not now, or in the next few months. it's best explained here in detailed by Nokia itself: http://www.nokia.com/NOKIA_COM_1/Technolog...white_paper.pdf We can also see their framework; which MeeGo already replace Maemo. It also mentioned in the first page: Maemo to MeeGo Anyway, MeeGo = Maemo6 + Moblin2 (Intel) Actually,if I'm not wrong, Nokia and Intel has been in talks sometime ago; it was about time. I think the next upcoming Nokia Maemo series phone might not be called Maemo6, but will be MeeGo as mentioned in several phone sites and the PDF; And at the MWC, Nokia have yet to announce any new upcoming phones, even the rumoured Nokia N8 Symbian^3. This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 18 2010, 01:51 AM |
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Feb 18 2010, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 18 2010, 01:34 AM) I read it's Maemo6 + Moblin2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7lHPX_iHKsNokia will sort of re-brand the next gen Maemo to MeeGo it seems. No point launching so many types of OS. The bad news is, seems in MeeGo official site FAQ, MeeGo will support rpm file type rather than deb (which current Maemo is using). So,... sharing is a problem between current Maemo with the upcoming MeeGo? Perhaps they might think of something... But Qt apps should work on any OS which supports Qt libraries. Plus, it's still unknown if N900 will be able to upgrade to MeeGo? But I still prefer the name Maemo. Anyway, saw the upcoming apps and games for N900 in YouTube. They show a 3D game which is said the best available 3D on ANY mobile phones in the market. Can't wait for the next "major" update; You can watch Qt4.6 demo in YouTube, you can see N900 with Potrait mode demo as well as cool Qt4.6 applications and rendering which even runs on the good old N95 (which the doom a-like game seems render faster than N97). Added on February 18, 2010, 1:59 am QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 18 2010, 01:34 AM) Aaah, miss that, hehe I think the formula has been too simplified I read it's Maemo6 + Moblin2. Nokia will sort of re-brand the next gen Maemo to MeeGo it seems. No point launching so many types of OS. The bad news is, seems in MeeGo official site FAQ, MeeGo will support rpm file type rather than deb (which current Maemo is using). So,... sharing is a problem between current Maemo with the upcoming MeeGo? Perhaps they might think of something... But Qt apps should work on any OS which supports Qt libraries. Plus, it's still unknown if N900 will be able to upgrade to MeeGo? But I still prefer the name Maemo. Anyway, saw the upcoming apps and games for N900 in YouTube. They show a 3D game which is said the best available 3D on ANY mobile phones in the market. Can't wait for the next "major" update; You can watch Qt4.6 demo in YouTube, you can see N900 with Potrait mode demo as well as cool Qt4.6 applications and rendering which even runs on the good old N95 (which the doom a-like game seems render faster than N97). Added on February 18, 2010, 1:49 am Mmm... it's best explained here in detailed by Nokia itself: http://www.nokia.com/NOKIA_COM_1/Technolog...white_paper.pdf We can also see their framework; which MeeGo already replace Maemo. It also mentioned in the first page: Maemo to MeeGo Anyway, MeeGo = Maemo6 + Moblin2 (Intel) Actually,if I'm not wrong, Nokia and Intel has been in talks sometime ago; it was about time. I think the next upcoming Nokia Maemo series phone might not be called Maemo6, but will be MeeGo as mentioned in several phone sites and the PDF; And at the MWC, Nokia have yet to announce any new upcoming phones, even the rumoured Nokia N8 Symbian^3. maemo and moblin both rooted under a different architecture. however, I guess what they going to do is to port whatever needed for meego. From the mailing list, I do see that their start-off base is moblin instead of maemo This post has been edited by kiawin: Feb 18 2010, 01:59 AM |
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Feb 18 2010, 09:22 AM
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But Joining force making the OS to the next level!
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Feb 18 2010, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(kiawin @ Feb 18 2010, 01:56 AM) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7lHPX_iHKs Here's a good Q&A for Maemo to Meego from Nokia at MWC:Added on February 18, 2010, 1:59 am I think the formula has been too simplified maemo and moblin both rooted under a different architecture. however, I guess what they going to do is to port whatever needed for meego. From the mailing list, I do see that their start-off base is moblin instead of maemo http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=529371#post529371 6. nokconv @Sreekanthp1 Q: Is MeeGo the beginning of end of Maemo? Do we have a roadmap for Maemo after the launch of Meego? #NokiaMWC -12:22 PM Feb 16th, 2010 nokconv @Sreekanthp1 A: MeeGo is the natural evolution of Maemo and Moblin platforms into one software platform #NokiaMWC -12:24 PM Feb 16th, 2010 I guess to put in simple terms to understand, Maemo6/Moblin2 is not MeeGo, but Maemo6 is PART OF Meego. Moblin2 is also PART OF MeeGo. Both these merged evolved into MeeGo. Instead of having two different OS, Nokia and Intel are merging Maemo and Moblin to one Linux-based computing platform MeeGo. So, possible that futrue there will be no more Maemo or Moblin; instead we have MeeGo. (But I prefer the word Maemo Anyway, Nokia announced they will launch Moblin device later this year, together with other companies as well. Also, fromt he QA, those apps developed in Qt4.6 for the N900 will be supported for MeeGo as well. Added on February 18, 2010, 9:55 am QUOTE(GaminPro @ Feb 18 2010, 09:22 AM) True, and actually, they should merged early thus N900 won't be stuck in between. But that's technology, it moves fast and outdate fast.. and we have to allow it to move forward and fast.Merging will actually also make choices less complicated! Less choices, imagine there's Symbian, Windows, Android, Apple, Maemo, Moblin, etc. So many... Then we have different brands to choose from, different phone specs, different design... Maybe one like this design, but the OS is not preferred, or specs/features lack of something. Even on a single brand itself, there's so many choices, even similar smartphone OS. Developing apps is also a problem when there're so many choices. Just imagine like game console, we have PS3, XBox360, Wii. If there're more and more brand console, it'll be more headache which to buy, while the game developer also have headache. This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 18 2010, 09:55 AM |
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Feb 18 2010, 01:31 PM
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Hi N900 users/ gurus,
Your in depth discussion is indeed very insightful I have a lay person's questions to post to ya'll Should i wait for this phone to be officially launched in Msia, or should i get an AP version now? What would be the main difference if i were to get it now? Software/firmware differences as AP is imported from other countries, and the official device would be customized for our country's use? Sorry if my question is noobish, hope ya'll bear with me |
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