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post Aug 27 2009, 11:53 AM, updated 9y ago

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post Aug 27 2009, 12:09 PM

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Just get those self contained one like Cool IT Domino ALC or Corsair H50 something.

Both reasonably price and perform quite well.

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post Aug 27 2009, 12:12 PM

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post Aug 27 2009, 12:15 PM

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Looks good, never tested that before. Hence, no comment.

Also, seems to need a lot of work.

You can ask in WC thread within the Cooling and hardmodding section.

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post Aug 27 2009, 12:32 PM

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Many people has a wrong perception about water cooling that it needs to be maintained, etc. I'm not sure why but it only happens in LY.net because there are people that does not water cool and assumes it has to be maintained then spread the wrong information around laugh.gif

The fact is, no maintenance is needed once you've set it up but maybe topping of water into the reservoir after a few months time (if you consider that as maintenance, lol). It also does not leak if you get the right tubing size for the barbs you're using smile.gif The Swiftech pumps are also literally silent giving you total silent computing throughout the night biggrin.gif You just need to know how to get it running right and nothing will screw up. I'm willing to help anyone that has problems setting up their water cooling rigs.

If you want lots of fun, customization, looks and performance then custom water cooling set is what you'll need. Forget about the Aerocool, Aquagate, H50, etc because those are made to look like water cooling and somewhat only performs more or less like a high end air cooler. Anyway, here's a picture of my Lian Li PC-A77B:

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post Aug 27 2009, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 27 2009, 12:32 PM)
Many people has a wrong perception about water cooling that it needs to be maintained, etc. I'm not sure why but it only happens in LY.net because there are people that does not water cool and assumes it has to be maintained then spread the wrong information around laugh.gif

The fact is, no maintenance is needed once you've set it up but maybe topping of water into the reservoir after a few months time (if you consider that as maintenance, lol). It also does not leak if you get the right tubing size for the barbs you're using smile.gif The Swiftech pumps are also literally silent giving you total silent computing throughout the night biggrin.gif You just need to know how to get it running right and nothing will screw up. I'm willing to help anyone that has problems setting up their water cooling rigs.

If you want lots of fun, customization, looks and performance then custom water cooling set is what you'll need. Forget about the Aerocool, Aquagate, H50, etc because those are made to look like water cooling and somewhat only performs more or less like a high end air cooler. Anyway, here's a picture of my Lian Li PC-A77B:
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ya... just involve topping up etc... for maintenance i think u only need to add coolant or change coolant for around 1-2 years maybe (depends what coolant you are using and component of your loop), or when you suffer high temp compared previously. (something wrong with the loop) or adding new components(block etc) other than that, there are no point of maintenance. Its almost maintenance free if you setup your loop with correct method and liquid.

In my opinion, water cooling only is troublesome when setting up, after leak test, they are quite hassle free... and the hard work and hassle are worth as after setting up the rig, satisfaction will be there when looking at the temperature and the cool looking of ur wc setup.
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post Aug 27 2009, 01:02 PM

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id stick to air cooling....

water cooling may have the ooh aah factor for some people...but i personally feel it makes the rig internals look messy even with good cable management.

air cooling with good cable management looks way much better....plus its a whole lot cheaper too


and since TS isnt gonna OC...i dont think theres much of a point spending 600-1k for watercooling.

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 27 2009, 12:32 PM)
Many people has a wrong perception about water cooling that it needs to be maintained, etc. I'm not sure why but it only happens in LY.net because there are people that does not water cool and assumes it has to be maintained then spread the wrong information around laugh.gif

The fact is, no maintenance is needed once you've set it up but maybe topping of water into the reservoir after a few months time (if you consider that as maintenance, lol). It also does not leak if you get the right tubing size for the barbs you're using smile.gif The Swiftech pumps are also literally silent giving you total silent computing throughout the night biggrin.gif You just need to know how to get it running right and nothing will screw up. I'm willing to help anyone that has problems setting up their water cooling rigs.

If you want lots of fun, customization, looks and performance then custom water cooling set is what you'll need. Forget about the Aerocool, Aquagate, H50, etc because those are made to look like water cooling and somewhat only performs more or less like a high end air cooler. Anyway, here's a picture of my Lian Li PC-A77B:

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Wow! I wish I could have one like yours. I'm thinking of changing to water cooling but my Desktop is just 6 months old and it is still under warranty. My father even bought 3 years warranty for RM150 just to make sure that if anything happens,he don't need to be worry. I'm waiting for my desktop to finish it's warranty than I'll change to water cooling and OC it. blush.gif
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 27 2009, 12:39 PM)
In my opinion, water cooling only is troublesome when setting up, after leak test, they are quite hassle free... and the hard work and hassle are worth as after setting up the rig, satisfaction will be there when looking at the temperature and the cool looking of ur wc setup.
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To be honest, I don't really do leak tests either - I'm just too lazy biggrin.gif However, I'll make sure all the tubings are fitted well into the barbs and there I go. I'll always be on alert to shutdown the PSU immediately should I find leaks during the first run though.

QUOTE(mADmAN @ Aug 27 2009, 01:02 PM)
id stick to air cooling....

water cooling may have the ooh aah factor for some people...but i personally feel it makes the rig internals look messy even with good cable management.

air cooling with good cable management looks way much better....plus its a whole lot cheaper too
and since TS isnt gonna OC...i dont think theres much of a point spending 600-1k for watercooling.
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That's not really true smile.gif Some people setup water cooling for the looks and fun of it, not necessarily due to overclocking. It's just like why people pimp their car with bodykits when it doesn't even give any performance differences. These are all personal preferences and there's no right or wrong. We just have to understand everyone's got their own way of enjoying what they like to do.

QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 27 2009, 01:03 PM)
clawhammer @ I wouldn't dare ask for your help for free smile.gif I'd be willing to pay. Let me check first whether i can buy a water cooling kit and i will contact you. By the way i am in PJ area, is this nearby for you ?
You can get Feser UV Coolant and they aren't conductive smile.gif It means even if you accidentally leak, you'll be safe. No worries, I can give free consultation without any obligations laugh.gif Sharing is caring.

QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Aug 27 2009, 01:20 PM)
Wow! I wish I could have one like yours. I'm thinking of changing to water cooling but my Desktop is just 6 months old and it is still under warranty. My father even bought 3 years warranty for RM150 just to make sure that if anything happens,he don't need to be worry. I'm waiting for my desktop to finish it's warranty than I'll change to water cooling and OC it.  blush.gif
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You won't void your warranty by installing water cooling. Of course if you're a first time user then you will be worried but just take extra precautions and learn how to do it right. Even for my hardwares, I can still RMA them if it gets damaged for whatever reason smile.gif

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post Aug 27 2009, 01:59 PM

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Why most custom watercooling system here do not include the GPUs as well?

I mean in LYN at least.

Given that, GPU generate lotsa heat today plus we are in Malaysia.
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Ya, cooling the GPU would be ideal but if you go for blocks like Swiftech MCW-60, you'll still need RAM sinks and VRM sinks. Those full covered water blocks on the other hand is very expensive and it only fits certain cards/models. Perhaps that's why people don't want to cool the GPU (lots of additional setup cost involved) biggrin.gif
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Interesting, I might do that one day when I get enough time and money.

I can't do SLI with my current GPU, looks like it is either watercooling or stock cooling and I hate stock cooling for GPU.
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That's not true and when they say it's non conductive, they mean it smile.gif Here is the product website for Feser and you can clearly look at their features inclusive of anti-corrosion, non conductive, etc:

http://www.feser-one.com/site/product_info...products_id=255

Of course this is more like for emergency in case it leaks and we should always take full precautionary measures to avoid any spilling/leakage irregardless of what liquid we have in the loop smile.gif Some normal cheap UV Coolant would cost you around RM50 per 500ml but I can get you the Feser UV Coolant 1 litre for a very good price of RM125. Choice of colour would be up to you biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 27 2009, 03:12 PM)
That's not true and when they say it's non conductive, they mean it smile.gif Here is the product website for Feser and you can clearly look at their features inclusive of anti-corrosion, non conductive, etc:

http://www.feser-one.com/site/product_info...products_id=255

Some normal cheap UV Coolant would cost you around RM50 per 500ml but I can get you the Feser UV Coolant 1 litre for a very good price of RM125. Choice of colour would be up to you biggrin.gif
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From your experience, how much you need every 2-3 months when refilling?

Also, how long can one bottle of 500ml coolant last for refilling purposes.
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post Aug 27 2009, 03:17 PM

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It depends on how big is your loop and it'll normally be less than 1 litre anyhow so you'll have extra lying around just in case biggrin.gif The UV properties would fade off after some time so you need to purchase a Feser One UV dye to bring it back but that's a lot cheaper. As to how long you need to fill up water, it's literally very very minimal because when you have a proper reservoir, everything is covered and water does not evaporate so easily.

For me, I only top up once in like 5-6 months and it's probably like 20ml or so?


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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 27 2009, 03:17 PM)
Another thing i want to ask is, this coolant will glow if exposed to uv.

So basically need to install a uv lighting tube in the case. However i worry that UV light can cause cancer. Is this true o_O: ?

Also if i do get water cooling, it would be a shame that my side panel has no acrylic window to look at it but i think i will live.

But if add in a UV lighting tube, i am pretty sure i want to see the sexiness of the inside of my case biggrin.gif Is there any side panel with an acrylic window for the PC-A71F model ?

Also do these uv lightings have a switch i can press to on or off? Because i leave my pc on 24/7 it is hard to sleep when light is shining >-<;
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Here's a quick answer to your questions:

1. UV lightings do have a switch to turn it on/off.
2. UV lightings causing cancer? I'm not sure but smoking causes cancer too so ... LOL
3. I can help you mod your side panel for a fee smile.gif I have done some side panel mod for some forum members. If you want to buy from Lian Li, it'll cost you around RM180 (from local distributor)

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It's exactly the same like any other panel with a side window smile.gif Here's how mine looks like:

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