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TSADjohn90
post Aug 26 2009, 11:37 PM, updated 17y ago

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Hi, im looking to start a f&b beverage kiosk selling smtg like pancake which i think might attract ppl (like auntie anne or wraps type but dif)

how should i start from here? I have capital 20-30k is that enough to sustain me 6 month rent? Im looking for a semi hotspot anyone knws the price?

i have already found the machines to cook, what more do i need? Anyone with similar experience mind sharing? Criticism welcome.

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post Aug 27 2009, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Aug 26 2009, 11:54 PM)
ADjohn90,

Here's a constructive criticism for your consideration. RM20k - RM30k for 6 months of rental is definitely NOT enough for shopping complexes. The rental for shops are at least RM8k - RM25k, depending on location and size, and usually you will have to pay 2+1 upfront upon signing of tenancy agreement. You will have to fork out additional funds for shop renovation as well.

You could consider renting pushcart areas within these shopping complexes though, ranging from RM1,500 - RM6k.
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Thx Jordy, i think ill go for the pushcart areas since i don't have to prepare space for my customers to eat. Since its a pushcart, is the cart prepared? or do i have to purchase it? Any more suggestion from others?
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(am_eniey @ Aug 27 2009, 12:33 PM)
Plan to do it full time ?
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Yeah ! ... I am planning to open it like 'Daily Fresh' and '1901 Hotdog' concept .... any ideas ?
TSADjohn90
post Aug 28 2009, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Aug 27 2009, 05:42 PM)
In that case, you will need your own pushcart because that's more towards franchising. Unless you want to do it yourself, then most of the shopping complexes have standard pushcarts for you to rent. If you're really interested, do contact the management and submit your applications to a few of them. You can reject the rest if you are accepted by one of them. If you're lucky, the waiting list is short.

Good luck.
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Thx alot =) really appreciate your help Jordy. Btw do you or anyone know how to automate the business without my supervision? How auntie anne or other franchise does it?
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post Sep 3 2009, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Sep 2 2009, 07:55 PM)
Hi,

I think I know what you are up to. A side business that can fully work on its own without your daily involvement. Chances are it will work in short-term but not long term.

I started my bubble tea stall in Wisma Cosway four months back while being fully employed in Singapore, though earning a marginal profit but running it is not easy, reason being that I am not there.

Secondly, finding a reliable partner/staff. Someone that can oversee and do up your material purchasing schedule, monthly promotion, accounts, staff payroll and etc.

As my budget was limited, I have to all my planning myself. Plus my partner was not really helpful and was at loggerhead with the landlord. There were some dispute between him and the landlord and  now I am forced to move out by end of the month.

I may not intent to continue since I not in KL to oversee it, ownership is very important and I failed to 'own' my business resulting in early closure. But if you are nearby, chances are it will survive.

Rental and staff cost will be your main concern, and opening it at shopping mall with traffic flow round the clock, you would have to hire at more staff and to work on shift, which would also add to your operating cost.

RM30k will be ideal for pushcart, test the market first, start small. When you have the confidence, then move up to stalls and shops.

Finally, good luck.
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Excellent info, thx chess_gal, i've read ur bubble tea post b4 i wanted to start doing this. I was thinking f&b business could generate me a steady (more like passive) income, hmmm seems like i need more research b4 starting this.


QUOTE(DoctorFaust @ Sep 3 2009, 12:15 AM)
Host, did you talked to Sunway Pyramid Leasing Department? Surely they have their rules and regulations for you to obey. You have to be aware about it. Getting the right place is the first most important thing you gonna settled now.

In fact, I am doing similar thing in KLCC. But having a lot of problems in there.

All the best.
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Yeah, talked to them, they quoted me the price, after some calculation (estimating per day sale) i arrived to a very small profit figure, im thinking of places which i can reduce rent and material cost. Btw care to tell me the prob u experienced when starting this??


QUOTE(kaiying @ Sep 3 2009, 02:26 AM)
have u done ur homework.. like market research etc?? i think u r not so ready yet.. no offense
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Yeah, its true i am not ready =) but the ideas you guys contributed are gold to me, i will start small and even before that do a good research. Im trying to start it as a small family business.

 

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