err..i didn't read all the 14 pages but haven't you guys notice that streamyx policy now includes the FUP (fair policy usage)?

There is the 10GB limit per month as in Maxis' 3GB and Celcom's 5GB. I think all broadband providers in Malaysia now have FUP.

Before you get angry, I have a perfectly good analogy to this so called overselling issue. Anyone who have dealt with webhosting or have experience in it would know there are also massive overselling in webhosting world. Like they offer you 500GB for your puny RM100 per year account. Think logically, if they have only 10 users, they need 5000GB hdd space already. They can't possibly cover back their cost for these spaces. No, this is called overselling and they expect people to only use 10% or less of those spaces. Of course ALL webhosting company that oversell have policies that will protect them. Such as no illegal stuffs or porn and so on. Frankly, ONLY sites that host illegal stuffs will use so much space. Normal websites does not even go close to such usage. But most users are ignorant and just sign-up with whoever offers most webspace. Like those who offer unlimited. So, when you really are using that much space, the webhosting policy will come in and they will kick you out without needing to refund you. It's all in their policy.

Back to tmnet. When they start providing broadband services, they expect all users not to be heavy users. Again, those who really used up all the bandwidth, are people who download illegal stuffs. Sure, there might be a few that actually download legal stuffs but how many of them? 5% of the heavy users? These 5% tmnet can cater but for the 95%, they are downloading porns and mp3s and p2p and sending out spams and so on. This goes back to the introduction of FUP.

So, if you want to complain about your rights, I am sure tmnet's policy already is protecting themselve well enough.

Frankly speaking, to all the heavy downloaders, can you actually spend all your time watching the shows that you downloaded? I used to download a lot of shows and with a working life, it is impossible to watch all of them. I know a lot of people download just for the sake of downloading...they just keep the files in the evergrowing HDD. Downloading like shit and wasting bandwidth just because they already PAID for the bandwidth. Now that's kiasu.

The next time people give you FREEDOM, think about it before ABUSING them. Use your freedom sparingly. From TMNET's point of view, they have no choice but to implement this to avoid going out of business paying for expensive bandwidth with heavy downloaders. So, implementing this FUP is the logical step towards tackling this "bad" service issue. Cause you see, as much as heavy downloaders are customers to them, those normal users who browse and check email only are also customers to them. They would want to have FAIR USAGE POLICY for all their customers. Again from business point of view, kicking out 1 heavy users, the bandwidth would be sufficient to cater for let's say 10 normal users. Who wouldn't want that? I wouldn't mind pissing off 100 heavy users and gaining praise from 1000 normal users. After all they are all paying the same price.

BTW, I am not saying I agree with this overselling policy. In fact, I disapprove of such policy but it has been used in a lot of other countries and other things. If only users question about such policy before accepting them and pressuring them when they try to pull this one then it could be avoided but not so easy without relevant authority playing a role in this overselling issue.

This post has been edited by abubin: Aug 30 2009, 02:16 AM

When you want to compare with other countries, you have to look at overall advancement in those countries. Like the implementation of backbones line there and the living standard of the people there and even things like social awareness in downloading piracy in there.

Does £10 equal to RM10 here? How much does £10 can buy you think over in UK compared to Malaysia AFTER the conversion? Currency value is not just about the conversion but also the living standard and other scale of economy.

The development there allows them to offer huge bandwidth catering for all the high bandwidth users and still can provide satisfactory service after 1/4 throttling. What about in Malaysia? Does the same things can be applied? I do not know but tm people will know. My point is, you are not looking at the overall picture. Keep on complaining like wah Singapore already have 100mbps line!! Why here still so slow...blah blah blah. Looking things at surface value is what Malaysians only can do.

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Added on August 30, 2009, 10:20 pmWho says streamyx does not have FUP?

http://www.streamyx.com/customer_care/cust...ir_usage_policy

If only people care to look. I already saw that like more than 6 months ago. I also remember seeing something like 10mb. It could be from another ISP's FUP or they edited it.

Anyway...ALL broadband provider now have FUP whether they call it one name or another. Only most users IGNORE them when they sign up. They did not even bother to question about them. I remember when I was looking to sign up Maxis' 3G service, I asked about this FUP by maxis in this forum but nobody even bother to find out what it is. All they cared is to compare what speed they are getting and how much they can download per day. Sure, when maxis started, they want your business, hence you can download at a comfortable rate. But then they start capping them, they will start complaining like some b**** and talking about consumer rights and all.

This post has been edited by abubin: Aug 30 2009, 10:20 PM