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post Aug 19 2009, 02:14 PM

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the world is becoming more competitive, yes?

hence people are actually forced to be more creative to compete in the increasingly leveled playing field.

people from the older generations are more closed and simple minded imho. for example, women just had to learn to be feminine, cook, clean and take care of the household. it's not the same now.
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post Aug 20 2009, 02:33 PM

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lol so much dissatisfaction here biggrin.gif

we can all agree that 10 years from now, the world in general would have progressed forward, with newer innovations, right? hence, ppl are getting more creative.

i understand what the worry is - that kids these days just sit in front of the computer and expect awsm graphics to entertain them without them having to use their imagination. that kids graduate from school and then expect to be handed a large sum of money just because they have a degree. it's like darwin says - survival of the fittest.

among these ppl there exists creativeness.

look at yourself, for example. occasionally you do think out of the box. your brain, your mindset and your thinking is not set in stone. smile.gif
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post Aug 20 2009, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Aug 20 2009, 02:39 PM)
That's the point in this debate and discussion. For everyone to see another opinion and benefit from it. That was my initial goal anyway.

But from the way things are going, namely our education system. There isn't much room to promote mental growth here since its all stereotyped already ; Study, study, exam, study, tution, study. More in favour of the western education system as it gives a more hands on approach and it encourages students to actually think out of the box. From what I can see, the whole thing is skewered in the direction of getting good grades and then getting your degree. No development whatsoever in the area of soft skills ; PR skills, etc.

Education does play a major role in harnessing one's creativity don't you think?
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it depends on the kid, actually.

growing up, i remember a bunch of us learning html, photoshop and javascript coding all by ourselves simply bcos we wanted to join webrings and have cute graphics on our sailormoon "website". laugh.gif damn clever, morning go school, then go tuition, then take nap, do homework, do tuition, then drink kopi while trying to figure out programing. no one asked us to learn, we wanted to do it ourselves. i can't imagine what kids are learning these days all by themselves.

and then depending on your school, a kid could join choir, debate, chess, etc etc to learn extra skills while having fun. it's all up to the kid, in the end. those who improve, will win.

if it's any consolation, i've read that just recently, one of the local uni is starting a aquaculture business in the uni, run and profited by the students, in order to let them learn how to do business

as a teenager, are u saying that most of ur peers can't think for themselves? so good kid? not rebellious at all?
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post Aug 21 2009, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(bgeh @ Aug 20 2009, 06:48 PM)
Nope. Let me try to define some notion of creativity first:

Creativity is somewhat proportional to the rate that we progress forward.

The argument is that creativity is diminishing, and I disagreed with that argument.
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ouh. you are saying that creativity and progress is proportional. ok, ok, i can agree with this!

lol zeratos it's good to be asking questions.

dreamer is a much older user with alot of experience, i will never refute him point blank because it's like being rude to my mom or dad. brows.gif i will say this though - i am an engineer too, and i finished cash flow one and two over night, again and again. my occupation and my hobbies are all things taken by my own initiatives.

parents are great, but at some point, a kid will realize that he/she has to get up and work it out on their own.

if u're free, read malcolm gladwell's 'outlier' book, he reminds me that culture and heritage also plays an important role on shaping individuals.
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post Aug 21 2009, 03:49 PM

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lol ur argument has reminded me of the kfc story

col. sanders was already a retired 60yr old uncle when he decided to sell a recipe for fried chicken

is that old or not? should be old right

but then again, selling fried chicken is not a revolutionary idea tongue.gif

ok ok carry on

 

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