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post Aug 18 2009, 10:18 PM, updated 17y ago

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What's the point? I see a lot of cars modified lowered by installing adjustable suspension system with low profile tyres.
And they are mostly NORMAL sedan cars like Vios, City, All Plotong, Camry, Accord, etc.

Unless you're driving a ferrari, Lambo, and the likes, you don't need to because their original design is like that.


Sometimes I really doh.gif whenever I see the mentality of these people.

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post Aug 18 2009, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ah liew @ Aug 18 2009, 10:21 PM)
you'll kena hantam very soon...
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That's what I expect, I want to see their creative replies, BTW you don't know who I am do you?


Added on August 18, 2009, 10:25 pm
QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 18 2009, 10:23 PM)
lower the car will lower the center of gravity as well, so it is a bit more stable on high speed.

lower ride normally will have a stiffer suspension, plus with low profile tires which is probably hard sidewall, it will reduce the body roll when doing heavy corner.
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If that's the case why Car Engineers design sport car as such and normal sedan car as such?
Don't you know the difference?

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post Aug 18 2009, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(ah liew @ Aug 18 2009, 10:30 PM)
let me guess, you're the retarded troll  laugh.gif
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Retarded in what sense?


Added on August 18, 2009, 10:33 pm
QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 18 2009, 10:31 PM)
normal sedan car is aim for people at all age range, which is for comfort, but there are some people who dont like the car too comfort and cause too much body roll during heavy cornering with the soft suspension setup, that's why they will install after market parts to suit their driving style.

i know you are going to say "why dont they just go and buy a sport car?"

the price gap for sport car and sedan car are way too huge, and sport car maintenance are generally higher than normal sedan car, even the fuel consumption also higher, many sport car doesn't have 4 doors, which is not good for carry stuff and carry human inside, while a modded sedan still can fit in 4 person with no problem.
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And my question to you is, why would you want to do heavy cornering on a busy road like town center?

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post Aug 18 2009, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(ah liew @ Aug 18 2009, 10:34 PM)
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flaming detected  ph34r.gif
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No that's not what I call an answer. Are you trying to emulate retardation by pretending to be one?


QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Aug 18 2009, 10:35 PM)
Those are morons endangering their life's and others! Alot of people take it to the track of empty streets.
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My point exactly.
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post Aug 18 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(chaos435 @ Aug 18 2009, 10:37 PM)
sumtimes lowering the car helps, it depends whether the owner did for driving purposes or styling purposes..
a lowered car can provide a lower center of gravity to the car which in turn making the car more stable.. just like amduser pointed out
doesn't mean do heavy cornering only wat, it improves the overall stability of the car.
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If you drive properly any car is stable enough, your point is not valid.

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post Aug 18 2009, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Aug 18 2009, 10:43 PM)
Not everyone loves to drive below 60. People who drive above 60 and take corners can feel body roll. They lower their rides to counter this! Some opt for it for its aesthetic looks.
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I think you don't get my idea. A normal sedan car when lowered doesn't look good or cool, it's still a sedan car no matter how hard you try. rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Aug 18 2009, 10:48 PM)
You got to accept the fact. Not everyone can own a sports car. They have to mod a sedan car, to look and perform like a sports car.
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They have to?

Try and digest the part that says perform and look like a sports car. Does it look like a sport car, say for example, a wiralution? Does it really? If you see carefully it's still a four door and the car shape is still a sedan shape. I LoL.

QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 18 2009, 10:48 PM)
define "drive properly"
then dont look at it
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You have a problem with driving properly?


Added on August 18, 2009, 11:01 pm
QUOTE(Shawnzz @ Aug 18 2009, 10:49 PM)
lamborghini = 1.5mil
vios+ adjustable springs + 18inch tires = 100k

see the difference? not everyone can afford a supercar
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Yes but the fact remain Vios = Vios, it's not a lambo no matter how much you mod. doh.gif

QUOTE(ah liew @ Aug 18 2009, 10:50 PM)
retards will reject every answer people provides  icon_idea.gif
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Because my answer has merits.


QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 18 2009, 10:52 PM)
because he's the one who drive wiralution and his 2nd car is wajalution
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First of all I don't even know you, and second that alone qualify that you don't know what car I drive.

QUOTE(812799 @ Aug 18 2009, 10:52 PM)
anyway does it hurt you when you see these cars ?
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I just shake head and do a face palm every time, muttering, stupid brainless idiots. Somehow it feels good.

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 18 2009, 10:54 PM)
Lets say u r driving @ normal speed, suddenly out of no where a small kid run across da road by a few meters infront of u... Wat would u react??? Brake as hard as possible n try 2 avoid da kid right??? Maybe IF u r unlucky, u might loose control n hit da kid or sumthing else. But wit gud suspension means better response from ur lowered vehicle. Am I rite??? Low profile tires is wider tires... means more rubber surface on the road... nod.gif
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HAHAHAHAHA you got anything to back your statement?

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post Aug 18 2009, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 18 2009, 11:01 PM)
even you drive under speed limit, your car will still out of control for some reason.
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What reasons?


QUOTE(JasonKing @ Aug 18 2009, 11:02 PM)
TS is here to start BS. all explanation given but TS gives his 2 cents which in my opinion is bullocks. better for MOD to delete this thread.
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bullocks my ass. I don't see you doing any better.


Added on August 18, 2009, 11:04 pm
QUOTE(812799 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:03 PM)
you are not answering my question , read properly
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Sometimes I laugh too.

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post Aug 18 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:04 PM)
Back my statement??? rclxub.gif
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Cars lowered is guaranteed to never have accidents towards anybody or things.
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(812799 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:06 PM)
you are still not answering my question ...
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that's because you're incapable of understanding answers.

QUOTE(ah liew @ Aug 18 2009, 11:06 PM)
i understand retards needs merits.  brows.gif
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wow that's all you can do for now? smile.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:06 PM)
juz wondering ts izit drive any sport car?? mind share with us ur super ride...
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QUOTE(mls_gamer @ Aug 18 2009, 11:07 PM)
TS orang kaya rclxms.gif
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I'm advocating for let sports car be sports car and let sedan cars be sedan cars. Nothing to do with me driving whatever sports car. It's irrelevant.


QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 18 2009, 11:08 PM)
he doesn't said guarantee.
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He said But wit gud suspension means better response from ur lowered vehicle.
Makes no difference to me. If you didn't hit that kid, you're just lucky.
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:09 PM)
Obviously u didn't read my 1st post properly??? doh.gif  'IF' 'Unlucky'

Now I m slapping my forehead... doh.gif  cool2.gif
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Then you're just unlucky. smile.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(L512_armada @ Aug 18 2009, 11:12 PM)
unknown warrior likes to drive standard car like uncle2 style.....
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What car are you driving? smile.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(812799 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:13 PM)
1st of all TS is not even matured enough to understand a proper car set up ... stop talking to a donkey ...
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So what is a proper car setup to you? smile.gif


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QUOTE(L512_armada @ Aug 18 2009, 11:14 PM)
or maybe he drive tonggek car or sedan car tinggi like bigfoot.....
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or maybe not. smile.gif

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post Aug 18 2009, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:15 PM)
Dats my point... better suspension n tires mean better da chance 4 u 2 avoid an accident... sleep.gif Its like u dunno anything about cars, suspension, tires n etc... doh.gif
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But is that a valid enough point to lower your car? because last I checked most of the people in here supports the main reason why people lower their car so that it would performed and more importantly LOOKED like a sports car. I can see you're the odd one out.
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(*7* @ Aug 18 2009, 11:21 PM)
y lower? --> because want to improve handling in order to whack corner, achieve stability, and improve the percentage of safetiness

y want to whack corner fast2? --> because human nature maa....sometimes i want to feel a bit young lor so the young blood in me wants to whack the corner fast2 and with the lowered suspension allows me to do that with full confidence. unless you are an uncle who is retired already, so u may not care about whacking corners.

if u feel u r young n fast y not do it in track and not endangering others?--> the answer will be because of human nature also lor....humans are born to break rules. so when the urge to drive fast come, so it come la.

if u lower a vios, it's still a vios...no point. --> that's the point lar, who said i want to lower it to become other type of car, i just want the vios to be stable and improve handling only. haiz
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and because of people like you, no wonder this country is constantly in such a mess. Tidak apa attitude. smile.gif


Added on August 18, 2009, 11:28 pm
QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:25 PM)
sleep.gif perform n looks... I m juz giving u an example dat lowered cars has better steering response... Dats my opinion doh.gif  y dun u Google it around n find ur answer there... rather than here in FnF flaming ppl's opinion...
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Sure but my respond to you would be, if you're whacking corners at fast speed and it so happens that there's someone at that corner, no matter what suspension system you use, if you don't have enough distance or time, it's a very high chance you'll hit that someone. So maybe you should Google some common sense.

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post Aug 18 2009, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:29 PM)
N another example is YOU shooting ppl's opnion.. If u think u r right from B4, no nid 2 open up dis thread... U can say lowered sedan cars look like ahbeng'ish, ugly or watsoever... N we r happy wit our opinions... cool2.gif
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I think my point can be argued back, I still have yet to see a better one.

QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Aug 18 2009, 11:29 PM)
I change to bigger tyres to increase my car's height lol

Coz Wira and the bump problem
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okay.

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:32 PM)
Again, u did not read my 1st post... 'If u were driving @ a normal speed' Seriously, I dun think so u r a retard... but either u r playing stupid or juz plain stupid... doh.gif
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If you're driving normal speed, that would mean you slowing down at corners. If you slow down and practice defensive driving, isn't it likely you can avoid accidents irregardless of whether you lower your car or not?

QUOTE(*7* @ Aug 18 2009, 11:32 PM)
wow i didn't know that by lowering a car will put a country in a mess notworthy.gif
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Unless you have comprehension problem, I was pointing to the attitude. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:33 PM)
Dats wat he said... n he is alwiz right... nod.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(LunaCry @ Aug 18 2009, 11:38 PM)
What about people who lower their car becoz of comfort? Some people juz cannot tahan body roll... And some ppl mod because of safety. Low profile tyre give better braking distance and better control at corner. Sometimes when there is a pile of water on the road u'll wish u have a better handling car.
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You mean the original designer of the car did not take safety into consideration? What are you? Some sort of qualified car engineer? I don't think so, no your point is not valid.
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(LunaCry @ Aug 18 2009, 11:45 PM)
Lol its proven fact dude. Accept it and stop crying like a baby!  Original car designer has made the car up to the std required but we can further improve it.
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Oh you mean like those after market devices claiming to save petrol and all that jazz? I see where you're coming from now. rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:46 PM)
Again lor... x paham also... doh.gif  did I mention corners??? I said suddenly got a kid run across u juz a few meters away...(normal straight) N u surely slam on da brakes n try 2 avoid... rite??? wit better tires n suspension, u will have better chances 2 avoid unwanted accidents... sleep.gif But as u said... not all ppl think dat way... sum of them lowered their car 4 looks... like example, cutting springs n removing rubber bushing. Mine is juz hard lowered springs wit sum gud absorbers... wink.gif
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Your logic isn't sound, if you're driving a straight road, and suddenly there's a kid running out all of a sudden? Can you define a more proper scenario? In which location? Living residential areas? In a Highway? where?


So you finally admit it's just looks? rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(*7* @ Aug 18 2009, 11:48 PM)
okay. what's wrong with my statement that led to u making judgement of the attitude?  rclxub.gif
and to top it all, how on earth the 'tidak apa' attitude be relevance in my statement? no relation whatsoever at all  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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if you're going to sit behind that wheel and drive, be responsible. Don't be like an immature brat who's driving are controlled by his emotions or up to his whims and fancy. unbelievable idiocy. laugh.gif

QUOTE(ah liew @ Aug 18 2009, 11:48 PM)
accept the fact that you're a retard is good
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if you want to flame somebody at least do it in proper English.

QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Aug 18 2009, 11:48 PM)
you oso dont know anythin bout design n manufacturing...
what about economic engineering n satisfying design statement smile.gif
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What about it?

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