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post Aug 18 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 18 2009, 10:18 PM)
What's the point? I see a lot of cars modified lowered by installing adjustable suspension system with low profile tyres.
And they are mostly NORMAL sedan cars like Vios, City, All Plotong, Camry, Accord, etc.

Unless you're driving a ferrari, Lambo, and the likes, you don't need to because their original design is like that.
Sometimes I really  doh.gif whenever I see the mentality of these people.
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Lets say u r driving @ normal speed, suddenly out of no where a small kid run across da road by a few meters infront of u... Wat would u react??? Brake as hard as possible n try 2 avoid da kid right??? Maybe IF u r unlucky, u might loose control n hit da kid or sumthing else. But wit gud suspension means better response from ur lowered vehicle. Am I rite??? Low profile tires is wider tires... means more rubber surface on the road... nod.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 18 2009, 10:57 PM)
They have to?

Try and digest the part that says perform and look like a sports car. Does it look like a sport car, say for example, a wiralution? Does it really? If you see carefully it's still a four door and the car shape is still a sedan shape. I LoL.
You have a problem with driving properly?


Added on August 18, 2009, 11:01 pm

Yes but the fact remain Vios = Vios, it's not a lambo no matter how much you mod.  doh.gif
Because my answer has merits.
First of all I don't even know you, and second that alone qualify that you don't know what car I drive.
I just shake head and do a face palm every time, muttering, stupid brainless idiots. Somehow it feels good.
HAHAHAHAHA you got anything to back your statement?
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Back my statement??? rclxub.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 18 2009, 11:06 PM)
Cars lowered is guaranteed to never have accidents towards anybody or things.
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Obviously u didn't read my 1st post properly??? doh.gif 'IF' 'Unlucky'

Now I m slapping my forehead... doh.gif cool2.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 18 2009, 11:12 PM)
I'm advocating for let sports car be sports car and let sedan cars be sedan cars. Nothing to do with me driving whatever sports car. It's irrelevant.
He said But wit gud suspension means better response from ur lowered vehicle.
Makes no difference to me. If you didn't hit that kid, you're just lucky.
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Dats my point... better suspension n tires mean better da chance 4 u 2 avoid an accident... sleep.gif Its like u dunno anything about cars, suspension, tires n etc... doh.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 18 2009, 11:17 PM)
But is that a valid enough point to lower your car? because last I checked most of the people in here supports the main reason why people lower their car so that it would performed and more importantly LOOKED like a sports car. I can see you're the odd one out.
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sleep.gif perform n looks... I m juz giving u an example dat lowered cars has better steering response... Dats my opinion doh.gif y dun u Google it around n find ur answer there... rather than here in FnF flaming ppl's opinion...

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post Aug 18 2009, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 18 2009, 11:26 PM)
and because of people like you, no wonder this country is constantly in such a mess. Tidak apa attitude.  smile.gif
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N another example is YOU shooting ppl's opnion.. If u think u r right from B4, no nid 2 open up dis thread... U can say lowered sedan cars look like ahbeng'ish, ugly or watsoever... N we r happy wit our opinions... cool2.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 18 2009, 11:26 PM)
and because of people like you, no wonder this country is constantly in such a mess. Tidak apa attitude.  smile.gif


Added on August 18, 2009, 11:28 pm

Sure but my respond to you would be, if you're whacking corners at fast speed and it so happens that there's someone at that corner, no matter what suspension system you use, if you don't have enough distance or time, it's a very high chance you'll hit that someone. So maybe you should Google some common sense.
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Again, u did not read my 1st post... 'If u were driving @ a normal speed' Seriously, I dun think so u r a retard... but either u r playing stupid or juz plain stupid... doh.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(*7* @ Aug 18 2009, 11:32 PM)
wow i didn't know that by lowering a car will put a country in a mess notworthy.gif
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Dats wat he said... n he is alwiz right... nod.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(LunaCry @ Aug 18 2009, 11:38 PM)
What about people who lower their car becoz of comfort? Some people juz cannot tahan body roll... And some ppl mod because of safety. Low profile tyre give better braking distance and better control at corner. Sometimes when there is a pile of water on the road u'll wish u have a better handling car.
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 18 2009, 11:39 PM)
I think my point can be argued back, I still have yet to see a better one.
okay.
If you're driving normal speed, that would mean you slowing down at corners. If you slow down and practice defensive driving, isn't it likely you can avoid accidents irregardless of whether you lower your car or not?
Unless you have comprehension problem, I was pointing to the attitude.  rolleyes.gif
Yes, TQ.
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Again lor... x paham also... doh.gif did I mention corners??? I said suddenly got a kid run across u juz a few meters away...(normal straight) N u surely slam on da brakes n try 2 avoid... rite??? wit better tires n suspension, u will have better chances 2 avoid unwanted accidents... sleep.gif But as u said... not all ppl think dat way... sum of them lowered their car 4 looks... like example, cutting springs n removing rubber bushing. Mine is juz hard lowered springs wit sum gud absorbers... wink.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(mls_gamer @ Aug 18 2009, 11:54 PM)
TS kena gangbang
but TS still can handle.
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I dun think so... as u can he is talking crap shit from da beginning... laugh.gif
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post Aug 19 2009, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 18 2009, 11:56 PM)
Your logic isn't sound, if you're driving a straight road, and suddenly there's a kid running out all of a sudden? Can you define a more proper scenario? In which location? Living residential areas? In a Highway? where?
So you finally admit it's just looks?  rolleyes.gif
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a kid, a cow, a dog, a cat, an ******* or a crazy retard. Which location, u choose.. where, u choose... If u have been driving a 'car', then u will noe how our Malaysian road is... there is no nid 4 me 2 xplain 2 u in details... cuz @ the end, u still dun get da point... 4 an example:

'So you finally admit it's just looks?' rolleyes.gif

U read back all my replies... until now u still dun get it... doh.gif If u say LOOKS... then up 2 u la... Hope Mod will close n delete dis thread... Cuz most of da new topics open up here, r logic n accepting other ppl's opinion no doubt not all r correct... Dis is like a provoking or flaming topic 2 me... nod.gif
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post Aug 19 2009, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(*7* @ Aug 19 2009, 12:10 AM)
First of all I don't even know you, and second that alone qualify that you don't have the right to say i am immature brat let alone to say i am not responsible coz u don't know the way i drive. I may be whacking corner but i'll do it after considering it is safe to do so for me and other road users. A driver knows his machine's limit. and it is safe to say, I am that driver.  yawn.gif
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Yup.... diffrnt cars have diffrnt limits... nod.gif drivers will surely noes their own car's limit... thumbup.gif
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post Aug 19 2009, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 19 2009, 12:29 AM)
Can you be clear instead of mumbling?
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Its clearly stated... unless u r stupid. nod.gif I mean, I m juz going in circles xplaining 2 u from da beginning n u still dun get da point... wat 4 wasting my time repeating it again n again.... until like 100 replies??? doh.gif
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post Aug 19 2009, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(reezs @ Aug 19 2009, 12:54 AM)
just ignore this guy..
he keep circling with u all..
right now he keep thinking which part that he had edi use to reply to u guys..
this kind of people think that all of its thought all are true and no one can deny it..
if u think that u are right than just keep to urself..
everybody has their own idea about car..
if u think that lowered car is dumb,lousy, fools or etc than just be it that way..
that owner doesnt go to u ask 4 ur money or what so ever..
dont come here tease people here and there..
if u have something to say,just spread the word..
settle!!
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post Aug 19 2009, 01:44 AM

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post Aug 19 2009, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 19 2009, 01:46 AM)
and pray tell me why you enter my thread if you think it's baseless? I'm baffled by your emotional response. What under age girl? Are you emotionally challenged now? If you are, you're welcome to either refute me post or very simply, sit quietly in one corner like those others who have been silenced.


Added on August 19, 2009, 1:49 am

Your unker is very slow in responding.
I changed my mind he's not worthy anymore.
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sleep.gif mcm nk kena penumbuk je ni... shakehead.gif
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post Aug 19 2009, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(Loseeker @ Aug 19 2009, 01:50 AM)
This is what I found on google, seems like TS do have a valid point after all.....
Many think that the keys to good handling are super-low profile tires, stiff springs, rock-hard shocks, wrist-thick "sway" bars, and slammed-to-the-ground suspensions. "Many" are mistaken. Done haphazardly, these "improvements" can make a car SLOWER around a racetrack and punishing on the street.

Radical Lowering
Let's start with radical lowering. It's easy to take the suspension out of its optimal operating range, which means the tires aren't level with the road during braking and cornering. Do we need to say that this hurts grip? Also, an over-lowered suspension will likely toe in or out as the wheels move over bumps and during cornering. This is called bump-steer. If bump-steer happens in the rear, it feels like you're driving a hook-and-ladder fire truck with an uncooperative trailer driver. In the front, it feels as if the steering has a mind of its own.
Even worse is when the over-lowered suspension hits the limit of its travel during a hard corner. The suspension literally bangs into its bump stop. The spring rate at that corner goes toward infinity and the grip goes toward zero. If this happens to the rear suspension in a hard corner, the car will snap sideways. If the front hits its bump stop, the car will take off on a tangent as if you were swinging a rock on a string and suddenly let go. Either way, it's totally unpredictable for the driver. One of the worst things for a driver is a suspension that just barely taps the bump-stops every now and then—the car acts like it's demonically possessed and the poor driver can't figure out why.

Show or Go?
Racers lower their cars to reduce the center of gravity, which can improve cornering. But then they raise suspension-mounting points and install completely redesigned components, so the suspension remains in its designed operating range. For the street, slammed suspensions are strictly for show, not go.

Total Package
If you're determined to lower your suspension, buy a complete kit from an established tuner. Talk to someone who's installed the package. Stiffening suspension springs or anti-roll bars (often incorrectly called sway bars) REDUCE grip on that end of the car. The correct technique is to use as soft a spring/bar package as will do the job.

source: http://www.automedia.com/The_Downlow_of_Ha...dsm20030601h3/1
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Gud suspension kit do not act like dat if I m not mistaken, especially those expensive kit, the absorber r design 2 adapt wit da spring rate... nod.gif Meaning better absorb n rebound rate... cuz 2 hard ur car tends 2 bounce off... while too soft n high, ur car tends 2 lean causing high body roll. Unlike those which actually cut their OEM springs... I think dats bullshit... shakehead.gif Get a proper sport springs dat goes well wit da absober.

as 4 da wheels, set back da chamber angle correctly... nod.gif
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post Aug 19 2009, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 19 2009, 02:25 AM)
One of the set backs for lowered car in Malaysia is the bumps. I sort of like watch how every lowered car slooow down when it comes to bumps whereas normals cars just glide over it with ease. Sure it pick up speed after that but in a uphill run with say 3-4 bumps I sort of like  doh.gif

Doesn't look right.

Anyway just keep inputting your opinions. There are people who are for and against, makes it an interesting topic when it's heated up, lol.
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Especially those parking lot speed bumps... Luckily my car is not dat super low killing suspension... or else ended up tearing my bumpers apart sweat.gif


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post Aug 19 2009, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 19 2009, 08:43 AM)
Bumper being torn apart is a very common problem faced by lowered cars in Malaysia. Not only in parking areas but anywhere, including those who have to go to auto workshop, car accessories, etc. I've see some cars where the bumper totally came off and koyak. Some people having money problem just leave it as it is, so even with the original intention for the car to look cool, it has become not only ugly but an eyesore and very uncool.
So is it practical at all I ask you? I don't think so.
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nope... but 4 performance suspension system, I think they have potential. Like TS stated... Installing an adjustable suspension kit. But not those Ahbeng'ish low killing springs that ended up u can even speed on Malaysian road bcuz of its condition. nod.gif Few who understand, dat by installing gud n reliable suspension system can improve da car's handling n stabilities... thus, more safety when u nid da xtra response from ur steering @ emergency situation nod.gif

Dats all my points I give out... If u still insist or juz like 2 reject my point, then up 2 u la...

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