Actually a lower car does help alot, but it's personal preference.

A lower centre of gravity means less skew on the body, less roll, simple physics.

A lower car also experiences less aerodynamic drag and more downforce, so you save money on petrol and get better grip. I think reputable spring manufacturers like Koni, Bilstein and Eibach Federn have all come to the same conclusion on this.

A lower vehicle also gives better steering feedback due to the inherent mechanical nature of steerings. You have less torsional loading as the distance between components decrease, not to mention less flex. 

Cars are made to satisfy economic requirements and not all are driver orientated, eg; Stiffening foam put into pillars, it makes the car body much more rigid and safer under high stress, but it's expensive and thus unimplemented on most production vehicles.

yes retard

a kid, a cow, a dog, a cat, an ******* or a crazy retard.  Which location, u choose.. where, u choose... If u have been driving a 'car', then u will noe how our Malaysian road is... there is no nid 4 me 2 xplain 2 u in details... cuz @ the end, u still dun get da point... 4 an example:

'So you finally admit it's just looks?' 

U read back all my replies... until now u still dun get it...   If u say LOOKS... then up 2 u la... Hope Mod will close n delete dis thread... Cuz most of da new topics open up here, r logic n accepting other ppl's opinion no doubt not all r correct... Dis is like a provoking or flaming topic 2 me...

First of all I don't even know you, and second that alone qualify that you don't have the right to say i am immature brat let alone to say i am not responsible coz u don't know the way i drive. I may be whacking corner but i'll do it after considering it is safe to do so for me and other road users. A driver knows his machine's limit. and it is safe to say, I am that driver. 

Its clearly stated... unless u r stupid.   I mean, I m juz going in circles xplaining 2 u from da beginning n u still dun get da point... wat 4 wasting my time repeating it again n again.... until like 100 replies???

I drive a Skyline 4 door sedan. Pretty much a normal car. I just decided, for the driving i like, lowering it would give me better results.

Lower it however you like, it's up to you to decide on what you want with your vehicle.

The EVO is a 4 door sedan, so is the Subaru WRX. They're rally cars, but they've done pretty well on the tarmac track with modifications.

nope its 4 door saloon..

just ignore this guy..
he keep circling with u all..
right now he keep thinking which part that he had edi use to reply to u guys..
this kind of people think that all of its thought all are true and no one can deny it..
if u think that u are right than just keep to urself..
everybody has their own idea about car..
if u think that lowered car is dumb,lousy, fools or etc than just be it that way..
that owner doesnt go to u ask 4 ur money or what so ever..
dont come here tease people here and there..
if u have something to say,just spread the word..
settle!!

lol is funny.

unknown fella, u just stubborn hahaa.

how much u spend and how much quality u get.

even sedan car or real sport car cost a different certain amount with different look and quality. even real expensive car or sport car also can bring u to dead or still sucks then normal sedan car compare to corner. u just never knew. look more to the topgear. sometimes they did compare those good car with cheap cars. and the result is there. like they compare evo 9 with family 7 seater cars.

but take a look a cheap proton cost 10K with cheap 2nd hand car? right?

so 10k can u earn in one day? might be u can, but for other poor malaysian people are NOT! so dont blame on those wanna have cool stuff at lease on their cheap cars.

for lowered the car purpose i think alot of people has reply . simple meaning better cornering and else no need me to explain it because already explained. and more lowered like crazy lowered. that u can blame and flame on those dumb, cuz that is really dont improve anything.

for those expensive car sedan like camry and other etc whatever u mention they have a right basic setup on their car. but still there have alot of after market parts to make ur car even more better. performance and handling. reason that u buy that car not Rm10, so once u buy it at lease u drive for a years or 3 years or more?  crossing finger maybe a years u already dead or else. so whatever can save a little life and possible so mod for it. if u think u are drive quite fast, and needed. the driving style that suit u that u think.

unknown warrior maybe u just buy the car and drive with the car and spoil and get a new car like that person. so if u dont like just do what u like to do. shoot at the forum and msn.

save ur this energy of stubborn and save our malaysian to one unite better.

happy merdeka ~

funny thread again.

It's basically a normal 4 door sedan car. Designed to carry 5 people, a saloon infact.

There'a Wagon called the Stagea with the RB series of engines.

What is high/sports performance anyways? When you can turn a car into that with the addition of a simple turbo kit.

wats the issue if i lower the car?

your problem or mine??

The difference between a Normal Subaru Boxer 2.5l engine and the one in the WRX are simply 2 fold, a turbo and a better ECU. That's very little considering the base of both cars are the same.

Either way UW should try driving a car with REAL grunt and BHP, even my father's 740 doesn't punch as much power as my ride.

then why not i ask u back the same question of, WHY u open a baseless topic?

and why you ask such questions??

dont ask me back a question if u havent answered my questions, and i think that is a very fair statement?

reason for asking about ur problem or mine is immaterial AS i am asking you a question, and not d other way round??

or ur brain is still in kopitiam chatting with a poor underage ger?
i aint ur opponent, in fact i am not worthy at all to be your opponent.

if u know me or dont know me, its up to yourself to think of a better topic to open for discussion of all car enthusiast in lyn.net

unker fred is in da house...

This is what I found on google, seems like TS do have a valid point after all.....
Many think that the keys to good handling are super-low profile tires, stiff springs, rock-hard shocks, wrist-thick "sway" bars, and slammed-to-the-ground suspensions. "Many" are mistaken. Done haphazardly, these "improvements" can make a car SLOWER around a racetrack and punishing on the street.

Radical Lowering
Let's start with radical lowering. It's easy to take the suspension out of its optimal operating range, which means the tires aren't level with the road during braking and cornering. Do we need to say that this hurts grip? Also, an over-lowered suspension will likely toe in or out as the wheels move over bumps and during cornering. This is called bump-steer. If bump-steer happens in the rear, it feels like you're driving a hook-and-ladder fire truck with an uncooperative trailer driver. In the front, it feels as if the steering has a mind of its own.
Even worse is when the over-lowered suspension hits the limit of its travel during a hard corner. The suspension literally bangs into its bump stop. The spring rate at that corner goes toward infinity and the grip goes toward zero. If this happens to the rear suspension in a hard corner, the car will snap sideways. If the front hits its bump stop, the car will take off on a tangent as if you were swinging a rock on a string and suddenly let go. Either way, it's totally unpredictable for the driver. One of the worst things for a driver is a suspension that just barely taps the bump-stops every now and then—the car acts like it's demonically possessed and the poor driver can't figure out why.

Show or Go?
Racers lower their cars to reduce the center of gravity, which can improve cornering. But then they raise suspension-mounting points and install completely redesigned components, so the suspension remains in its designed operating range. For the street, slammed suspensions are strictly for show, not go.

Total Package
If you're determined to lower your suspension, buy a complete kit from an established tuner. Talk to someone who's installed the package. Stiffening suspension springs or anti-roll bars (often incorrectly called sway bars) REDUCE grip on that end of the car. The correct technique is to use as soft a spring/bar package as will do the job.

source: http://www.automedia.com/The_Downlow_of_Ha...dsm20030601h3/1

emotional??

wow wat a great word to be use on me...

sit quietly??

of course i am, sitting here typing to u.. yeah man its quiet alright here..

if u are yet another :
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/gen...drick-wong.html

then i'll be damn, another great wannabe in the making OR izzit already made?

Gud suspension kit do not act like dat if I m not mistaken, especially those expensive kit, the absorber r design 2 adapt wit da spring rate... Meaning better absorb n rebound rate... cuz 2 hard ur car tends 2 bounce off... while too soft n high, ur car tends 2 lean causing high body roll. Unlike those which actually cut their OEM springs... I think dats bullshit...   Get a proper sport springs dat goes well wit da absober.

as 4 da wheels, set back da chamber angle correctly...

Especially those parking lot speed bumps... Luckily my car is not dat super low killing suspension... or else ended up tearing my bumpers apart

Aiya cincai ts la..he rich already then come look down peoples here..fcuk damn it..if you feel like you're rich enough and everything you see must qualified with your mood or your mind..

Ok enough,you're not belongs to anywhere..what point keep saying people?people earn their money and spend their money also..not yours right?then why what they have changed still need to get your permission?are you prime minister?even prime minister didn't bother this..you this sohai come from nowhere want to pretend as prime minister's father somemore?mind your business only la.

You earn you spend..why still want act like their father teaching them what to mod what not to mod?your attitude really..."insert some suit word"..even mentality also 3rd class..

If everybody attitude and their "mentality" is like you,no single accessories shop can continue to open..everybody is not gonna to buy things from there just because of what you've said so called "sedan car no matter what you've mod still the sedan car"..LOL..

If you still support your word..hmm..book the ticket and fly to dubai tomorrow,at least there more and more rich people...maybe some really have same mentality,mind,or attitude like yours...

Haha go matt wee.

Whats wrong la ts, with people lowering their cars? If they feel its better then leave it to them la.. Besides, even a standard Porsche 911 turbo suspension is not good enough for some owners, so they change. Not ur money so whats ur problem. Lalalalala~

do all people who lowered their car using ur money, ts??
if yes, then u deserve to open dis thread..

why we hv to know u? anak sultan ka?
pls la don't use such retard wording. only u urself felt that u r 'high end' samseng.. lol..
 

TS ever had an accident with a other ppl who owns a lowered car?
Its their money, who are you to judge their decision?