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kev da man
post Sep 1 2009, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 1 2009, 08:02 PM)
huh? i don get u man...  the pop up flash will still fire a flash to ur subject. Making ur subject now with 2 lighting source (ur Wireless flash and ur pop up flash)....many ways can be done to overcome the flash from ur pop up flash eg like achew said..use 1/200 or higher/cover with exposed film or tissue. nod.gif
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according to what i shot, nopes. my pop up flash does not influence the end result. look at the shadows on the two images i've posted wink.gif

for example; EXIF data intact.
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*the shadows on the shirt is thanks to a secondary light source, for your information. primary is an f42 at 1/8 power in my left hand above the face at a 10 degree angle down.

QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 1 2009, 08:10 PM)
kev da man : OOF?
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facebook punya problem doh.gif always resizing my images, but they've got no unsharp mask doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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post Sep 1 2009, 08:39 PM

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have you calibrated your monitor? your images look weird on mine O.o they are not saturated and they look underexposed.
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 1 2009, 08:58 PM)
U still don understand wht im trying to say...from ur picture..yes i can see tht u r using wireless flash...and i can see 2 light sources...1 from your pop up flash...1 from ur f42.... Go try this...shoot something tht only has 1 source of light which is from ur f42, without covering ur pop up flash. If u can do it...let me know how..i really want to know.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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did you read my post and the description of the image? doh.gif
my camera is in the portrait orientation, with my right hand facing my legs. the shadows on the shirt will not correspond to a flash firing from that angle.
the weird part is, i have not twiddled with any settings so far but even if you say that the body flash does fire, wouldn't that create the classic direct flash shadows that can be seen on the women? i would like to hear an explanation for that situation though, i would prefer to avoid any problems in the future when shooting wirelessly.


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ah, got it already. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif the damn thing does fire a split second before, and has a much shorter duration compared to the flashgun. then again, weird. i don't get this problem at all doh.gif

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post Sep 2 2009, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 1 2009, 09:20 PM)
is some situation u need the pop up flash to fill-in some shadows. But im trying to say here, with juz only light source from ur f42...the wireless flash effect is much greater and add 'mood' to ur picture..and also u can bring up some details from ur subject surface if ur flash angle is right..this method is called shadow relief... and back to the original post..i said nikon CLS is able to disable the pop up flash totally... and now u tell me tht even if the pop up flash fires...that would create classic direct flash shadows rclxub.gif no doubt yes its nice!!! but not always..

here..try do this..

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of course i knew that la doh.gif its okay, no need to explain further as i think you have misunderstood what i've said anyways.....

QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 1 2009, 10:07 PM)
kev da man: The onboard flash does interrupt IF you are shooting at the flash sync speed or slower, high ISO, bright apertures and much closer distances. However, in my wireless flash shots, I did not face the problem of onboard flash getting in the shot much at all, most likely due to shooting at further distances.

AlphaBeta: The easiest way to remove the influence of the pop-up flash in Sony wireless is to have some distance. For 'classic' portraiture with a few meters from the subject and lights further away, the pop-up is simply negligible. With the A900 and F20 at ISO400 F5.6 1/200s, and a subject 2 meters away, there is no influence of the F20 on the picture.

So here's an experiment for your D90; turn off the lights and shoot without flash at 1/200s F1.8 ISO1600. Then set your pop-up to WL commander and "--", raise the pop-up (but do not add the SB-900 to the equation) and see if the pop-up contributes any light.
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yeah i realize what you have been saying throughout the years, and i was just wondering why it does not influence my images.
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post Sep 2 2009, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 2 2009, 04:55 PM)
Wow.. so geng?? i did find myself stuck with F42 when wanna use Bounce light for Potrait...n will think the flash design n stupid.. .

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if you think like that, it also says that 99% of other flashguns in the market sucks laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 3 2009, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 3 2009, 03:46 AM)
Dynamic Range Optimizer. You have it in your A200 also but only up to Advanced. Level 5 is only on the A700-A900.
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advanced in harsh sunlight will have clipping in bright spots sometimes sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif had to put it to normal operation to avoid hot spots on things like leaves and stuffs sweat.gif
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 3 2009, 10:23 AM)
kev da man: Whatchu talkin' about Willis? Advanced is supposed to underexpose to prevent highlights from blowing out. So you should see less highlight clipping!
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really? dunno, maybe i metered it wrongly sad.gif maybe that's the case doh.gif i usually shoot in manual mode only. will try it out this weekend biggrin.gif
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this thread goes so fast, i am already lost =.="

as per the kingston x266 cards, i realize that anything above 4GB lags on the a200. the same is NOT true for sandisk or other brands. -.- there is no such thing as cheap and nice when deleting a single image takes 10 seconds doh.gif

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