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post Aug 31 2009, 09:33 PM

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Good locality and access as well as reasonable pricing. However, I am not trying to pour cold water, but you need to be careful with the project, especially the end product, after-sales service and management. If I am not mistaken, the current management of the developer is related to KOI.
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post Sep 1 2009, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(babana @ Sep 1 2009, 12:30 AM)
nope, TT is not related to koi but to heron residency instead.
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Refer to the link below.
http://www.trinitytowers.com.my/properties/index.html

Can you see the icons on the left hand side? Heron was developed by TT. Koi was also their project, but they didn't mention it on the website because the name is simply too bad.

Also, see comment No. 6 on link below.
http://propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2005/...sidency-puchong

Some developers use different names to develop different projects.

This post has been edited by winner: Sep 1 2009, 08:04 AM
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post Sep 1 2009, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(babana @ Sep 1 2009, 08:49 AM)
bro, that's exactly what i said...TT is related to Heron Residency but is NOT related to Koi. pls get your facts rite before posting here. saw the 2nd link which u posted and the admin merely stated that some of the mkting and admin staff were from Koi previously, which imho might have left the company and joined TT instead.
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I know you are a buyer and I didn't mean to pour cold water. biggrin.gif It's up to you whether to wanna take the advice. What I can say is, only people who are involved in the real estate development field know the real story and history. smile.gif

The people behind the company started their 1st project at the 2 or 3 blocks of apartments before Heron at the entrance of Bdr Bkt Puchong 1 (take note that Bdr Bkt Puchong is undertaken by another developer, namely Bkt Hitam who is much reputable and responsible). After that they shifted ther activities to Koi Kinrana -> Koi Puchong -> Heron -> PT19 -> Zest -> ??Kajang??

Most people aren't aware of these, and only some people in the same line know the history. Nevertheless, let's hope the developer learns the mistake and provide better service in their existing projects.
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QUOTE(babana @ Sep 1 2009, 11:36 AM)
boss, its kinda unethical for u to quote my post which i've since edited almost immediately more than 2 hrs ago after i did some googling up, dont u tink so?  doh.gif

edit: btw, am still awaiting the reason y u said the development of koi is simply too bad.
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Hey...it isn't unethical but I didn't notice you have edited it. It's just a reply from me after coming back from meeting while leaving the page unsent. biggrin.gif

Just google Koi Tropica and you will see lots of comments about it. Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, the people behind the group might have improved their service and quality. End products will tell everything. Nonetheless, it's still a good buy for the early birds given the good location and attractive pricing. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AudiA6 @ Sep 1 2009, 12:20 PM)
The high-rise apartments or the low cost flats?
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The one at the entrance of Bkt Puchong 1, just before Heron. It used to be rented out to a lot of Lim Kok Weng's students.
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post Sep 3 2009, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(ROCKEY @ Sep 2 2009, 10:34 AM)
Actually Winner Bro, I dun understand how you related TT to Koi Kinrara. My sister bought Koi Kinrara and yes Koi Kinrara is related to Koi Tropika which Koi Tropika has a really bad reputation due to the management there.

As for Developing Company.. I didnt see any relation regarding Koi Kinrara and The Zest.
Koi Kinrara Developer is Lingkaran Naga Sdn Bhd. which is a Sub from MasterON Sdn Bhd.
MasterON Sdn Bhd is a company which falls under the tree from Federal Furniture Holding Berhad which FFHB Mr Choy is also MD for MasterON. (correct me if im wrong)

for The Zest...
Zest is develop under Darul Dinasti Sdn Bhd. which falls under Trinity Tower Group.
so.. TT Group MD Dato' Neoh Soo Keat.

rrr... I dont see any realated issue from TT to Koi Group.
but.. Koi Tropika really have some management problem. But IMO every condo or service apartment would have their own problem. Heron does have their problem too. I bet Zest will have in the future too...

We should not judge Koi Kinrara before its completion, every buyer have their view and decision to make. and we respect that. A good or bad project of previous developer is just a reference and guide for people to take note. So even Good reputation Developers have abandon projects too.

Just get finger crossed and hope to the house you bought its good and be happy with it.  smile.gif  peace
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Unlike big public-listed developers, in Malaysia, a lot of small players develop projects using different names. If the current project is badly reputed, they will just register other name to develop future project, and they will continue doing this because buyers (mainly those 1st time buyers) will not be able to discover it. The developers' names are different but the senior management (directors and shareholders, probably) are still the same.

See item no. 13 below.
http://propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2005/...idency-puchong/

As what I have mentioned in my earlier post, the senior management behind the company have done some projects and they should know what to improve. Let’s hope they will try their best to make this development a successful project.

QUOTE(aquest @ Sep 2 2009, 11:26 AM)
the above analysis is already common knowledge to every purchaser. legally there r absolutely unrelated but in substance what winner trying to point out or hinting is the fact that they both (whether developers, directors & mgt teams, ex-employees, etc.) had been once upon a time, co-habiting under 1Umbrella. care to elaborate further, winner? or if it's inconvenient to mention here, why not pm me.
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Some issues are a bit sensitive and not suitable to be revealed over a public forum. I have sent you a PM for insiders news. Do keep it to yourself only.
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QUOTE(MyFirstHome @ Sep 8 2009, 06:53 PM)
Well...its all marketing strategy...its not up to the developers..all tho i wish they could be accountable for it..


Added on September 8, 2009, 6:55 pmman..with all these negative chats goin on here abt the developers..its making me worried..aiya..
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ALL developers have marketing gimmick to lure customers. It's a matter of whether it is overdone or not, and whether you believe it or not.
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Sep 21 2009, 01:59 AM)
Does TT has future projects as well? As long as they have other future interests at stake, they won't dare to screw up (too badly).
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OK, should the buyers of Zest give TT a FINAL chance? Well, I think you should, as you have committed and you can't do much now until you see the end products.

However, it is a sad scenario in Malaysia. Some developers with bad reputation would just register a new name to develop a new project. Most of the prospective buyers would NOT be able to know the track record and people behind the new company. Our Ministry of Housing needs to tighten the issuance of licence to those irresponsible ones.

And guys, won't be surprised that Talam would awake again one day and use other name to develop projects, but there will still be buyers. smile.gif
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QUOTE(propcritic @ Sep 21 2009, 04:43 PM)
It is a legitimate concern especially if it involves structural damage, even if it involves bad workmanship, the developer should give the owners some concrete assurance that it will not happen again at the Zest...
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No developers will give ASSURANCE or guarantee on workmanship. It is a FACT that some developers select their consultants and contractors based on price, ignoring the accountability aspect.

A good developer will look into after-sales service, and ensure prompt rectification on its own cost although the defect liability period is over. Reputation is very important for long term business. If the developer refuses to do so, you know the irresponsible developer tries to "wash hand" and "hit and run" in whatever projects involved.

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