HaHa, those attacking the Zest, while not being bona fide, can only be 3 groups of people:

1) Those SA selling other high rise developments within Puchong vicinity, who are finding it extremely hard to sell due to the presence of the overwhelming success of the Zest;

2) Those buyers of the other Puchong high rise developments, who are insecure and not confident with their purchases and hence, trying to play down the success of the Zest at any given opportunity, hoping to console themselves and feel better; and

3) Those sore losers or sour grapes who missed the boat on the Zest, being the only high rise development within Puchong vicinity, which is 100% sold during the recent financial crisis, without any special financing package like the rests (5:95 or 1:99 etc) and even without a show unit.

While constructive comments are welcome, those attacking the Zest while being very personal are obviously from one of the three above...

Honestly I dont give a hoot about what ppl call me. After all its just talk, im not gonna get any poorer 

I just hate Sales Person from a particuar project go online and start talking how good their properties are then give misleading sales points to con gullible buyers. When I started few years back, if not bcoz some senior forumers who were against buying for speculation, I would have bought some good or bad KLCC/MK properties and paid the price now due to one hell of a speculative investor lady. We later find out that she earns referrals from developer for some of the projects she promotes. Some unlucky forumers even paid above 100k more aboe maket value for a project that she promotes.

This forum will be a bad place for getting advise if every project oso have to buy,buy, buy 

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Added on September 23, 2009, 1:11 pm
Mate,

Personally do you think its alrite to make excessive claims on any particular project and leave these claims unbacked by facts?

You also move on la... ada mulut cakap orang tiada mulut cakap sendiri...

BTW! Stop all this.
Back to our REAL discussion.
10/10/2009 dinner plan on? 
Who's in? Eugene kor can organize another name list for dinner? 

Having this yellow color will make Zest a landmark that not to be missed.
Like that they see in Menara Axis...the Twin Tower or even the Green Lot 10...

Under the 2010 Budget, the government proposed a fixed tax rate of 5 - 30 per cent on gains from the disposal of real properties effective January 1 next year.

Like i said, this depends on SW. If SW sells their last remaining unit at RM500psf, why shouldnt we sell Zest which is just 2 stations away at the very least RM450sqf?
No harm to dream 

Bro.. Zest in Kinrara.. not Puchong Utama.. is that a good comparison? 

By the way, KINRARA STRAITS
    Lot. Size (sqf)  : FROM 22X80
    Built-up Area (sqf)  : 6,935 - 10,896
    Price Range (RM)  : RM 1,680,888 - 3,996,888
    Sales Status : FULLY BOOKED!

Zest commercial Shoplot 24x79 between RM1,760,000 till RM2,300,000 per unit SOLD

Bandar Puteri and Kinrara are 3km apart.. but different direction mah   

Continue to Dream Dream Dream

ok..ok.. May your dream come true.

Actually alot has to do with quality of the condos (workmanship, landscaping, etc) when completed. Most big time (Grade A) developers succeed in this due to their financial muscle and reputation. And then the quality of residential management of the condos.

I was wondering how many units in The Zest? It will be good for investment if not too high density.

a brief FR about the show unit:

as soon as i entered the 1st fl where the show unit type b is, was greeted by their gm..introduced himself as mr khoo, formerly from bukit hitam development..yeah that bandar bukit puchong. looked almost deserted in the late afternoon when i expected huge crowd to throng the place.

no photos allowed to be taken .. so i just abided by their rule lor.

my impression is that type b balcony is spacious..not just spacious but bona fide spacious. u can put 2 big round banquet tables there. was reminded by the lady sa that type a balcony is shorter. *using her toe to point to the spot while demonstrating how short the type a balcony was*. elsewhere the id uses too many mirrors, trying to create a sense of spaciousness. obviously not to my minimalist taste. the helpful gm then impressed his visitors by lifting up the toilet seat covers which then slowly n gently fell into position with pin drop silence instead of abruptly crashing down like reminding everyone that ur business is done. i could see that the lift is indeed kone. the gm who was getting down with me proudly mentioned .. kone lits, they r made in finland.

Of course smaller... show unit is type B 11xx sqft while Atmosfera is 12xx sqft unit

700per sq feet for bukit jalil? then covillea would be rm980K for 1,400sq feet. i would rather buy espalanade landed then for same price.

Wah... by that time KLCC hit rm4000 / sqft liao... The day is still early... reserve till night to dream on la.. 

Think that Zest was never marketed or sold as a high end product. Its the reason why a massive 600 ++ units were sold in a year. Have a look at similar products recently launched in Puchong (or currently selling for that matter), its not difficult to see why Zest owners r fairly optimistic at a 400k subsale price prospects.

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Added on May 2, 2010, 12:31 pm
Chief,

One can can get a old 2000sqf DS in ss2 for only 500k, yet 5-Stoned sells out at double that price. Why do you think this is happening? 

My fren, I did not compare 5 Stoned to Zest. Its 2 diff properties targetting 2 diff segments.

I was responding to gamenoob's query on highrise value/appreciation VS its landed counterpart within the same vicinity and ask him/her to draw a conclusion? 

so boss at what point do you think it will be a "wish dream"? 

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Added on May 5, 2010, 12:36 pm
I think you should read my post again, and more carefully this time 

I did not point out SS2 landed VS 5 Stoned to get anyone to draw a comparison for BK9 landed and Zest. Some facts on 5 Stoned (do correct me if the facts here is incorrect)  :

1. Sells at 100% premium, psf wise VS the SS2 landed. Which hereby refutes your claim that landed will always be more expensive than highrise?

2. Is just a typical medium densitied condo with large facilities area but sold at a high premium by a premium developer? A glance at 5 Stoned and I dont see any unique proposition that makes me wanna fork out that much. Dont see much of fancy smancy snob factor.

Yet 5-Stones sells well and Puchong's SW..............still sells............ both a beyond normal logic prices (VS landed nearby). Ask yourself why...............

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Added on May 6, 2010, 11:04 am

U should if u dont have a POV.

Pai
You reading too much into the words and not the message. I'm talking about Zest appreciation in subsale into 400k and you using a new property that already price above everything else.....

I entertain you further....

As you have mentioned yourself its 2 diff market on 5stone/Zest etc

But its your statement below that irrelevant that got me and the other chap resting his case.....

"One can can get a old 2000sqf DS in ss2 for only 500k, yet 5-Stoned sells out at double that price. Why do you think this is happening"

You obviously trying to draw a conclusion above to counter my arguement that landed prices is higher.... you should know better that they in 2 diff segment and 5stone was priced from 480psf from developer.

Even though both Zest and BK have similar PSF from developer, to think that highrise will appreciate more than landed in this case, its a bit absurd. It may be very close for first 2-3 yrs after that zest will hit plateau and the landed will continue to rise....

again chief, my example of SS2 DSL n 5-Stones is just ............ an EXAMPLE. U asked previously on what is the corelation between landed and highrise, and I just pointed out an example that seemed to me the closes comparison to gives us............. simply more food of thought, not answers. If you think its absurd, feel free to stick to your POV forever if thats what you want to believe. Afterall, your POV is limited only to what you know.........     

Like u, I used to think that highrises appreciation will never beat landed ones .............. until 12 months ago. Now I felt that generally over short and medium term, highrise can be more than a match VS landed. If you know where to look, you'll find at least 5 highrise development that will refute your claim above.

Back to this Zest, I've always maintained that its price will be tagged closely to other Puchong's high rise developments, not so much to its landed counterpart in BK9. Both targets diff segment afterall, so why crack your head comparing these 2? Just look at SW's, IOI's Skypod current price for similar 3 bedrooms, then ask yourself if 400k for a 3b Zest unit seems reasonable in 2012?

Cheers mate 

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Added on May 6, 2010, 7:00 pm

Not my fault if u cant comprehend? 

Keith

As me and Pai and others point out, its just a diff POV discussion in a very civil manner. Its not an arguement, its perfectly ok to agree to disagree.

Unfortunately, diverse opinion is so poorly tolerated in this country especially at political level that it spill over to the general population creating an ugly side of Malaysian that many too blind to see.

So please, its not an arguement, its a healthy discussion on diff POV.