its not our wed she's a photographer for somebody's wed

I haven't use Eneloops yet but it's more recognized than Imedions for flashlights used in CPF. There's is a study in CPF for Imedions, quite detail. Eneloops appear to handle higher power draw above 4A better than Imedions. But it wouldn't matter in most flashlights applications where you will be putting your batteries in series for higher power. Even in single AA applications, you won't reach 4AA at this point of time. I chose Imedions because we've been using Powerex a long time. Based on the link I gave, they're quite competitive. Check it out.

Okay, susuman is right about plugging your red pin in the correct socket. If you measure 2m, 20m and 200m (all miliamps) you should connect the Red Pin into the mAB socket. When you measure anything above 200mA to 10A (20m/10A on DMM) you should connect the Red pin into the 10A socket which is correct. Although you can still measure 200m at 10A, but it's hard to read it...

Taking picture 3 and 4:
- at the 20m/10A setting, light at med, it shows 0.27
It means it's drawing 270mA

- on high, it shows 2.28
It means it's drawing 2.28A

I'm assuming the measurement is correct (similar to my LD10 with boost only circuit), take note that the electronics draw this amount of current for regulation. You can't tell what's the exact current driving to the LED. You will need to open the head and desolder the LED for a connection which it's not encouraged. I can assume that the medium mode is around 120mA @55Lumens and 700mA @195Lumens to the LED for example. As the battery voltage fall the current draw will be higher, giving as much power for constant output until it reaches too low, the light will dim incredibly.

Hope that helps to understand some stuff about the LED driver for the P100A2 and your DMM test. Note that you might get different measurements after the LED is hotter.

Yo bro, dunno if I answered this question above. 2.28A seems to be enough eh?

if i plug into the 200mA jack, straight OL lol.

i think i've got it now. the 20m/10A means EITHER 20mA OR 10A resolution. i thought it was 20mA divided by 10, whatever that could mean

but still the current draw is pretty weird though, it increased 10x when the overall brightness only increased by 4x

or is my dmm flawed?

and i think the driver is pretty efficient, 1hr 30mins on high constant regulation for 2xAA light ain't pretty bad lol.

anyway, thanks for the explanation!

would've saved me the confusion if it was an auto-ranging dmm

This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: Sep 22 2009, 03:41 AM

Thanks man! Will go through them...


Added : Jst gone through them...and seems like for flashlight usage, Imedion's gonna be slightly better than Eneloopies... I am planning to get 16 rechargeables..and with Imedion, i could save RM2.50 x 16 = RM40...

But i am still undecided...coz Eneloopies are more well known, so i know the quality is there... How about Imedion..? Anyone can help me make up my mind..?

This post has been edited by ArmorFiend: Sep 22 2009, 12:46 PM

IMO, the Imedions somehow feels more solid. slightly more mass and slightly more capacity lol.

oh, and don't forget, the Imedions are cheaper too

i have both imedions and eneloops with me now lol.

This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: Sep 22 2009, 01:59 PM

You may try buying 8 Imedion and 8 Eneloop and you will get the benefits of both worlds.

Yea, because the current draw is more than 200mA, so it will show a 1 on the DMM, means its above the reading.

Yeap, it will read with 10A if the Red Pin is on the 10A socket, and 20mA if the Red Pin is on mAB socket.
- At 10A, it reads as 10.00A (readings like 0.03 = 300mA, 0.20 = 200mA, 5.00 = 5A)
- At 200mA, it reads as 200.0 (readings like 124.2 = 124.2mA, 20.7 = 20.7mA)

I hope this doesn't confuse you more.


I don't think the DMM is flawed, I had measurements compared with a CPF member using his Fluke DMM (the best DMM). Measurements I did were close in comparison. But let's assume yours is not faulty , you also have to make sure your 9v battery has enough power too I am assuming the tailcap has a resistance. You can measure it with your DMM too, instructions here, from CPF member HKJ (if you want to do it).

Fluke DMM is well known of their quality, but the price is like maybe 5x more

Hehe, I took my chances buying Imedions even though I've read so many eneloops usage. But my experience was more with Maha Powerex. And the study helped me bought it Last weekend, their performance was great in the nikon flashes, considering that they are high powered devices.

DX selling auto rangers from usd11

btw guys, just polished my Wee's reflector with Autosol. here are the results! haha



both images taken at iso80, f2.0, 1/1.3s shutter. WB changed though as one of the shots were taken on the day i got my Wee.

the diffrence really can see

and heres my half-polished Wee. too lazy to polish the tail, and also worried it might damage the trits



This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: Sep 22 2009, 11:37 PM

Nice pictures, you polished until so much difference?

If you decide to take more pics, take the front part also yea, the reflector and emitter, I wanna see

I'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved.

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Added on September 23, 2009, 1:18 amI'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved.

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Added on September 23, 2009, 1:20 amI'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved.

This post has been edited by strinq: Sep 23 2009, 01:20 AM

here they are

real-life beamshots. target ard 10m away. control at the top. f2.0, iso80, 1s shutter speed



reflector shots


reminds me, need to get one of those. the Blue one matches the trits on my wee nicely

Thanks for the pics!
The emitter's already small, making the wee look big! Or... the wee is so small making the emitter look big

Anyway, the niteglow stuff might be around the same size of your wee.. (LOL that didn't sound right, i'm not deleting it, it came natural).. So putting it with *the wee would be bulky?

Hi all, just to follow pseudoblue's style to share some of my flashlight:

Aurora AK-P7 SSC P7
Fenix PD30
Jetbeam RRT2
Surefire E2D LED Defender

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 10 2009, 10:32 AM


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Bro, I like the Macross more.....
Or is it a Robotech?
I just missed the old days.

Bro justin78, haha
Macross and Robotech, same lar.

Anyway, it is in the very 1st series Macross, the VF-1J.

How is your flashlight business lately? BTW, you work in Cyberjaya? Becoz I see you can COD in Jusco Tmn Equine, my office just beside Jusco.

Haha awesomesauce! VF-1 looks real good too. Nothing can stop this guy with all that weaponry I was thinking of getting the VF-25 months back, but decided not too though Cool pics!

haha, pseudoblue good to know you are fans of Macross/Robotech too! Indeed, these 20-30 years creation still rocks, may be only to the folks like us LOL

susuman - nice vf-1J max version. 1/48 or 1/60 scale? i only have the 1/48 vf-1S fokker..nice to see macross collectors here as well.

hi ray2ray, its a 1/48. You have the VF-1S WOW! Nice piece, been looking for the new 1/60 VF-1S.

The new VF in 1/60 has better joints, parts etc than the old VF 1/48 like mine.

Anyway, nice to know you like Macross as well!

(I changed my avatar too hoping many ppl would like it)

This post has been edited by susuman: Sep 24 2009, 09:27 AM

Hi bro susuman,

My business is looking good, thanks for the support from the members.

Yes, I am working somewhere in Cyberjaya, thus Equine Jusco is 1 of my makan place.

My bad, I always thought the Macross and Robotech is 2 different robots.......
Now it seems they are the same, thanks for explaining man.....

This post has been edited by justin78: Sep 24 2009, 10:28 AM

Nightstalker1993, yup..the Imedions are cheaper by RM2.50 each...

Justin78, hahaa..seriously, i never cross my mind about that.. Thanks man..least now i could try on both worlds and see which one suits me better down the road...

pseudoblue, i dont have Maha chargers..will be using Sony charger instead...so hopefully results wont differ much...

Thanks a bunch guys..! Guess it's 8 each then...