got the LumensFactory's SP6 from Philightsophy noon just now, awesome, got the light in just less than 24 hours! Good service bro Philightsophy .

I don't know about 47, but Bro Philightsophy have my recommendation, will buy again. But this "bad mounthed" issue, is really shaking my head. the price of the T20C2 really so much different. I am sure Philightsophy have a big SWEAT ! haha

So far the SP6 really have my heart, will the price, we are really getting good products, and compatible with surefire too!! just AWESOME

Nope, but 47 said it has in design problem wor

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Added on October 1, 2009, 6:19 pmBro RookieDaddy, looks like you are the 1st one, I got mine around 1PM, bad poslaju man, haha or else I could be the 1st , next time dude

You have all in Xenon, ha!

I ordered a 3.7 3 Mode LED, and a Xenon 4 190lm, it draws 2.3A!!!



to Bro Philightsophy, the LED is warmer tint, but it is not close to Neutral White which is below 5000K. Kinda like my old Fenix P3D. Not bad actually, like it, as for real warm tint, I can use the Xenon 4. Oh, the sky is getting darker, yeah! Testing time coming soon.

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 1 2009, 06:19 PM

I like if the light have exposed LED, so I could modify/repair it if needed. And ET has a few things i like, especially the RBG KIt I ordered from Philightsophy have all I loved. (Neutra White, filters, support CR123&18650, all reflectors (SMO OP included), diffuser etc etc. and the LOOK is good), so I stick to my order lor. And I could contact Philightsophy if anything goes wrong with the light.

So Philightsophy, that is why I stick to my order (though that means my wallet have a bigger hole ), so have they arrive yet??

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 2 2009, 03:39 PM

If I can do it, why not, that is my hobby, to mod!!!

Your wishes my command.

Haha, but I just like to mod/fix things up, but flashlight, it is just merely changing the LED, or driver circuit, add extension dummy battery tube. Sometimes fixing the switch etc. Most of the switch I got that I feel not right, I mod it.

Like the 47, I felt so hard to switch on, you need to press really deep to activate it.
And the LF SP6, it is also too deep, so I modded it abit with hot glue gun, and it is perfect.

Jetbeam RRT-2 also suffer the same issue, it has a big space between the rubber boot and the switch. But open the RRT-2 tail cap required a special tool. I manage to open with the anti-slip mat that we use in the car. Haha

Remember the incident I told you about my fenix P3D, really a big lesson to learn, luckily got it fixed and repainted nicely. Only to be a little yellowish now, in fact it is a self made warm tint Q5. (by accident)

Dealextreme supply many parts in cheap price, and driver circuit too. And for those 6P host (surefire C2 size), many P60 drop in is hazzle free mod or upgrade for flashlight, that is why I bought the LF SP6, so you can have any flashlight you like.

You can just order a UV light drop in, and drop it into the SP 6, then you get the SP 6 transformed to CSI UV light. And if there is newer LED, warm tint, P7, MCE etc, just get a drop in, no need to de-solder and re-solder LED.

Not to mention there are bunch of options parts from Surefire and 3rd parties parts too!

BTW, doing some outdoor beam shot of the SP6, will share with you guys once have time to tidy it up.

Cheers and have a good weekend, and happy mid-autumn.
I loved moon-cake with duck's yolk!!

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 3 2009, 01:35 AM

In contrast, I love Xenon , is love a strong word to use, or should I use madly in love with Xenon?

Though I also love LED.

I think generally ppl dislike Xenon because of the heat or battery runtime or function (eg SOS strobe etc)

This is the disadvantage of using protected cell, the light cut off without warning, luckily you are not in the side of the cliff or something, I don't know in the flashlight there are any termal protection circuit, I over seen one has this, but I forgot what model, I think it is a surefire. For battery, I am sure most if them don't have thermal protection circuit, it just protect via measuring the voltage, so it will cut above 4.20 to protect from overcharge, and cut below 2.7 to protect from overdischarge, and also if sudden drop in voltage it also cut to protect from short circuit (assume only), so you cannot use protected li-ion in high power Xenon.

And no worries, bro sniper69, your cell is safe, no damage due to the cut off protection at 2.7, but can you share with us what are the damage cost you? eg : worriness, jatuh dlm longkang etc. Just a real life sharing pls.

And no problem if you charge it in 1 channel, but if your cell is dead (way below 2V), then the charger will not start charging anymore, this is a protection function in all the charger.

Have a nice illuminated night, every day!!
haha, new way to greet ppl, not like "Sudah Makan" we greet by "Have you lite today?"

I am located at Seri Kembangan, Selangor, near Jusco Tmn Equine, ring a bell?

Haha! each fellow bring a few flashlight, and turn them on simultaneously, all others just think we are insane!

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Added on October 5, 2009, 3:39 pmHi all, as for the "Our own flashlight" , I have these suggestion:
A) But a generic host, preferable 6P which allow us to take any P60 compatible drop-in from surefire, Lumensfactor, cheapo China Ultrafire, Wolf eyes etc. Then send the host to a do a lase engraving and have our own mark and logo, and even serial number.

But have to find good optic lens, so need an expert in the lens field to help find coated lens. There reset I think is easy. Oh then we could have many standard accessories to lego, like Xenon, Filter Lens, Diffuser since we use standard host, the 26mm P60.

or go more extreme
B) Order our own design, in any size we like, if can be 6p / P60 compatible is even better, so the benefit as above. But since we design the look and of the flashlight, we could have the most unique flashlight in the world, only among us will have them. Haha!

And we could also design the driver circuit, so the UI of the flashlight is on our taste. (This part might be harder).

I know someone involved in this besides his distribution business of flashlights, and he regularly goto China factory and have contact in these line. If we have enough number of order, maybe we could have the dream realised.

So we just want to fix which angle we going, A or B, and how many ppl want it, so we could negotiate the price etc.

We also need a design committee to do the design (Look and electronic), the business team etc for the purpose.

Let everyone comes out with idea, hope it will not remain a dream.

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 6 2009, 02:33 PM

ok, thanks alot! Then we could start the option A already!

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 5 2009, 04:00 PM

pseudoblue, I think with enough volume, they will allow us to choose the UI and tint. but if we choose the P60 drop in standard, then each of us can have any reflector, OP SMO, colour tint that you like. If got for fixed non-modular design like Fenix or 4sevens, then we just have to choose the optimum UI, like Mid\Low\high etc..

and have my friend to deal with the factory and engraving, also to machine the body\tube out.

Option A is good starter anyway. Just see how many ppl are interested.

If we put the 1Malaysia logo, maybe we could ask our government to sponsor? haha, any one have link to top rank politician?? they order say 1000 units, we design and get it to malaysia say 1100 units
the 100 units we sell to members here that like it! haha

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 5 2009, 05:17 PM

Sure, we need someone really good in art to do the design then.
as for model name/etc

MestiBakar as in surefire haha (joking)

I seem ppl built their own host/body, but I don't have such machinary, and don't know how to anodized the aluminum too. If we can get the ppl expert in this field, then can make lar, but with volume, we can send to factory to build the host/body.

edc, small or 6P size, is all depends on the vote lor.

I bought the SP-6, so I only uses 1x18650, not as bright as my 2x18650 Xenon, but very nice light.

We are close, can yamcha at Jusco Tmn Equine? My best time is like morning 10:30 or noon 3:30 like tat. Lunch time also can, but short one lor. Bro pseudoblue wanted to join also, but he is fram Shah alam.

Another way is, we goto Summit Sq McD, when Bro polkiuj has the new 4Sevens Ti arrive and to deliver it, don't know I have the slot or not

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Added on October 6, 2009, 10:45 amHi Bro ArmorFiend and Bro pseudoblue , where you guys get your Eneloop and Imedion, and how much are they ah?

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 6 2009, 10:45 AM

Wah.. hahaha, night is hard to get out for me, will try, let see how many ppl around this area and vote a night lor. And jmaguire, where are you from?

Haha, thanks for the links, if want to go out at night, the McD in Tmn Equine is best gathering place, later can just walk into the play ground near by, can then turn then dark play ground into fun fair.

Hi , I come a cross a modded LED Lenser P5 special edition modified with stainless-steel head & anti-roll collar

Anyone interested like me?

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Added on October 6, 2009, 11:37 pmMaybe nitecore also have design flaw??? joking

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 7 2009, 09:05 AM

I don't know about TOYO, but any silicon grease should be good for lubing the O-ring, in fact it is recommended by the manufacturer, most manual states that. btw, I dont't know Toyo sell silicon grease, I thought he is a dentist?

65 lumens good to use in door mah, you want to blast 500 lumens when you wake up at night meh, or you wear sun glasses when you sleep. Joking, just different needs. I like blaster and thrower, but some times I need moon mode flash light too.

One thing is, the Led Lenser might not have the same standard as the China manufacture, I mean the way they rate it. I have read many owners saying that it is alot brighter than many lights claim to have more than hundred lumens. And it throw like crazy because it can be focus to have almost not spill, all lux on the hot spot. Will see it personally soon.

For example, my surefire E2DL 120 lm is way brighter than the PD30 rated at 245 lm, though they have the same quality (but I hate surefire tailcap spring, it looks it was poorly manufactured) but their lumens rating is different number, Fenix has 100% over surefire LOL but Fenix is more practical in terms of price.

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This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 7 2009, 10:18 AM

Will let you know when I have the P5 on hand.

Haha, I was using the SP-6, so mine is Xenon 4 (4V), so it is not as bright, but good to use in the wood. You are using 2x18650? or 3 rc123?
Remeber to use the twist tailcap, 2x18650 would be 3A, the clicky tailcap is rated max 2A.

My 2x18650 20W Xenon is really good. You will love Xenon, when you outdoor only.

Here goes my hard earned money.

This post has been edited by susuman: Oct 7 2009, 02:59 PM