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TSNightstalker1993
post Sep 18 2009, 01:15 PM

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btw guys, was browsing fenix's website and saw this...

Introducing, the Fenix MC-10 drool.gif

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looks promising brows.gif

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OSRAM Golden Dragon Plus LED (LX) with lifespan of 50,000 hours• 3 lighting levels, 2 flashing modes
  -Lighting mode: 50 lumens (5hrs) -> 5 lumens (65hrs) -> 127 lumens (1.2hrs)
  -Flashing mode: Strobe -> SOS
• Intelligent memory function
Uses one 1.5V AA battery (Alkaline, Ni-MH)
• Size: 99mm( Length)*21.5mm(Diameter of the body tube)*25mm(Diameter of the lighting head)
• Materials: aircraft-grade aluminum (lighting head), quality plastic ( Body tube)
• Weight: 53.5g
• Waterproof to IPX-8 Standard
• Accessories: fastener, lanyard, diffuser lens , body clip


drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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post Sep 18 2009, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 18 2009, 05:35 PM)
The pretty one is me. LOL!!!!
(Just kidding k? I'm certified male. xD)
So when we gonna go yum cha so u can show me ur Wee. Haha!
I think the MC-10 is fugly. Yuck!
Can't imagine why anyone would take this over a Zebralight. xD
Then again, I'm biased.
Hmm... A Fenix release without beamshots? That's a 1st.
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going shah alam night ride later. wanna tag along? tongue.gif laugh.gif

ceiling bounce test the wee is marginally brighter than the p100a2 on med which is rated at 50lm lol.

guess the neutral white really is a lot dimmer than the cool white sweat.gif

oh well, i'm still pretty satisfied laugh.gif
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post Sep 18 2009, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 18 2009, 06:36 PM)
Nightstalker1993,
holy####, you received your Wee d !  rclxms.gif mine is still in production......and with the shipment ding dong, i guess i have to wait for another 3 weeks to receive mine !  vmad.gif

oh and i have just received the cheap MTE P7 light from DX, i'm impressed with it's performance....but don't how to measure the output, lumens etc etc and i have no other expensive light to compare with... sad.gif

and talking about the Fenix MC-10, there's a chance to win one ! here's how ;
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Selamat Hari Raya to all ya ! and happy holiday too !  icon_rolleyes.gif
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still in production?

AFAIK, he already collected everything i think O.o

when was the last time you asked him lol.

and btw, try chatting with him on gmail. WAY more efficient than e-mails laugh.gif


Added on September 18, 2009, 11:32 pmsome comparism ceiling bounce shot lol...

p100a2 on med(50lm)
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Lummi Wee fresh off the charger
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Lummi Wee after 7 mins(with breaks in between. The wee gets almost too hot to hold after ard 2-3 mins rclxub.gif )
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post Sep 20 2009, 01:56 AM

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oh well, i rarely turn it on for more than 30sec anyway tongue.gif laugh.gif


Added on September 20, 2009, 2:08 am
QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 19 2009, 10:12 AM)
ROFL laugh.gif @ all of those wee talks... anyway... Thanks for posting your Wee for us... looks.. damn pretty  laugh.gif laugh.gif


Added on September 19, 2009, 4:10 pmJust something to share wink.gif

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re-charging batteries and checking their voltages, preparing for gf's wed photo shoot biggrin.gif

I've used 2 sets of Imedions in my TK40 and they're good batteries! thumbup.gif The Powerex 2700mAH are used in the flashes for Nikon alot and their performance are great. The flash 'recharges' faster. Imedions will be used for the first time.

If you guys are considering these batteries for your flashlights, I will recommend it, the Imedions has been great in my TK40.
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rm700 worth of batteries! rclxub.gif

that'll last my P100a2 a lifetime! haha. laugh.gif

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post Sep 21 2009, 07:49 PM

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i heard they have some qc issues...

it IS an Ultrafire anyways lol.

anyway, welcome to the thread! thumbup.gif
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post Sep 21 2009, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 19 2009, 10:12 AM)
ROFL laugh.gif @ all of those wee talks... anyway... Thanks for posting your Wee for us... looks.. damn pretty  laugh.gif laugh.gif


Added on September 19, 2009, 4:10 pmJust something to share wink.gif

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re-charging batteries and checking their voltages, preparing for gf's wed photo shoot biggrin.gif

I've used 2 sets of Imedions in my TK40 and they're good batteries! thumbup.gif The Powerex 2700mAH are used in the flashes for Nikon alot and their performance are great. The flash 'recharges' faster. Imedions will be used for the first time.

If you guys are considering these batteries for your flashlights, I will recommend it, the Imedions has been great in my TK40.
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btw bro, i'm using the same dmm as you and wanna ask a few q abt the current reading feature.

lets say i'm trying to measure the current draw of my P100A2

theres 3 settings which are 2m, 20m/10A and 200m.

at 200m, light at med, it shows 2.5
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on high, it shows 22.7
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at the 20m/10A setting, light at med, it shows 0.27
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on high, it shows 2.28
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now how do i intepret this data? rclxub.gif

i think at the 20m/10A setting its showing the true current in Ampere which is 2.28A on high and 0.27 on med. but honestly i'm kinda confused now rclxub.gif

and by the looks of it, the only diffrence when you change the sensitivity between 2m, 20m/10A or 200m is the decimal point.

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post Sep 22 2009, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 22 2009, 12:05 AM)
hi, I dont own this DMM, but by the look of the picture, it seems like you have plug into the wrong socket when you measure mA, when you use mA to measure, you should have plug into the mA, and when you set to 10A setting, use the 10A socket.

Hence the reading on the mA is wrong as you are using the 10A socket, but the reading of  current in the 10A should be correct.

Draw .27A on med should be ok, but are you sure the flashlight draw 2.28A on high? if that is true, then the LED driver is not efficient on the High, it draw around 6W for a 3W output.

Or maybe the DMM is not correctly calibrated. hmm.gif
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if i plug into the 200mA jack, straight OL lol.

QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 22 2009, 03:05 AM)
laugh.gif its not our wed  wink.gif she's a photographer for somebody's wed smile.gif

I haven't use Eneloops yet but it's more recognized than Imedions for flashlights used in CPF. There's is a study in CPF for Imedions, quite detail. Eneloops appear to handle higher power draw above 4A better than Imedions. But it wouldn't matter in most flashlights applications where you will be putting your batteries in series for higher power. Even in single AA applications, you won't reach 4AA at this point of time. I chose Imedions because we've been using Powerex a long time. Based on the link I gave, they're quite competitive. Check it out.
Okay, susuman is right about plugging your red pin in the correct socket. If you measure 2m, 20m and 200m (all miliamps) you should connect the Red Pin into the mAB socket. When you measure anything above 200mA to 10A (20m/10A on DMM) you should connect the Red pin into the 10A socket which is correct. Although you can still measure 200m at 10A, but it's hard to read it...

Taking picture 3 and 4:
- at the 20m/10A setting, light at med, it shows 0.27
It means it's drawing 270mA

- on high, it shows 2.28
It means it's drawing 2.28A

I'm assuming the measurement is correct (similar to my LD10 with boost only circuit), take note that the electronics draw this amount of current for regulation. You can't tell what's the exact current driving to the LED. You will need to open the head and desolder the LED for a connection which it's not encouraged. I can assume that the medium mode is around 120mA @55Lumens and 700mA @195Lumens to the LED for example. As the battery voltage fall the current draw will be higher, giving as much power for constant output until it reaches too low, the light will dim incredibly.
  
Hope that helps to understand some stuff about the LED driver for the P100A2 and your DMM test. Note that you might get different measurements after the LED is hotter.

Yo bro, dunno if I answered this question above. 2.28A seems to be enough eh?
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i think i've got it now. the 20m/10A means EITHER 20mA OR 10A resolution. i thought it was 20mA divided by 10, whatever that could mean sweat.gif laugh.gif

but still the current draw is pretty weird though, it increased 10x when the overall brightness only increased by 4x hmm.gif

or is my dmm flawed? blink.gif

and i think the driver is pretty efficient, 1hr 30mins on high constant regulation for 2xAA light ain't pretty bad lol.

anyway, thanks for the explanation! thumbup.gif

would've saved me the confusion if it was an auto-ranging dmm laugh.gif

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post Sep 22 2009, 01:58 PM

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IMO, the Imedions somehow feels more solid. slightly more mass and slightly more capacity lol.

oh, and don't forget, the Imedions are cheaper too tongue.gif

i have both imedions and eneloops with me now lol.

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post Sep 22 2009, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 22 2009, 11:14 PM)

Fluke DMM is well known of their quality, but the price is like maybe 5x more
DX selling auto rangers from usd11 tongue.gif laugh.gif

btw guys, just polished my Wee's reflector with Autosol. here are the results! haha

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both images taken at iso80, f2.0, 1/1.3s shutter. WB changed though as one of the shots were taken on the day i got my Wee. laugh.gif

the diffrence really can see thumbup.gif

and heres my half-polished Wee. too lazy to polish the tail, and also worried it might damage the trits laugh.gif

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post Sep 23 2009, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 23 2009, 01:16 AM)
Nice pictures, you polished until so much difference?

If you decide to take more pics, take the front part also yea, the reflector and emitter, I wanna see tongue.gif
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here they are tongue.gif

real-life beamshots. target ard 10m away. control at the top. f2.0, iso80, 1s shutter speed

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reflector shots tongue.gif
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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 23 2009, 01:16 AM)
I'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved. smile.gif


Added on September 23, 2009, 1:18 amI'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved. smile.gif


Added on September 23, 2009, 1:20 amI'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved. smile.gif
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reminds me, need to get one of those. the Blue one matches the trits on my wee nicely laugh.gif
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post Sep 24 2009, 03:00 PM

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dunno lol.

just found it in my storeroom.

it comes in a tube, inside is a white paste lol.

and at first i was also thinking like you, but really that patina develops really fast and really removes the shine sweat.gif

you'd feel the urge to polish it a few days after u get it laugh.gif
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post Sep 24 2009, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE
I have not received any resolution to the Wee blue trits, although a look at the current last post in the (HTW) thread will show another customer has received blue trits in a Wee with no problem.


i think he's referring to me lol.
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post Sep 24 2009, 06:36 PM

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pilkiouj and metalzone also waited 3 months for their lummis lol.
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post Sep 25 2009, 12:51 PM

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yes, i agree communication is the key.

everytime leave my gmail page open, whenever i see him online, ill ask him about my light, average 2-3 times a week, depending on what he tells me laugh.gif

and HELL YEA ITS WORTH IT!

as long as i bring my spare battery, the batt life doesn't bother me laugh.gif
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post Sep 30 2009, 11:56 PM

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wah. i see all ur collection make me drool only drool.gif

my humble 'collection', if you can even call it that cry.gif

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the p100a2 now barely use edi, EDC duties taken over by the Wee. the ET now only use as a tool light laugh.gif
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post Oct 2 2009, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Oct 1 2009, 06:23 PM)
dont worry

I got 3 eagletac light so far so good n more coming 

nightstalker throw his eagletac light on the floor and broke it,
but Philightsophy got him a replacement head,

nowadays light are all made in china, its all branding anyway 

anyway after u get ur eagletac
u can decide for urself got design problem or not 
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what more, it was done within a 2 weeks time frame and PLUS, i got a BRAND NEW HEAD!

now THATS what i call CUSTOMER SERVICE! thumbup.gif

don't think even surefire's warranties are better, at least in this region of the world tongue.gif

read online say surefire if mau warranty, must call by phone, else they won't layan sweat.gif


Added on October 2, 2009, 1:32 am
QUOTE(susuman @ Oct 1 2009, 06:10 PM)
Nope, but 47 said it has in design problem wor
performance/design flaws?

what flaws?

only flaw i can see is the idiotic strobe mode set to double-tap power button doh.gif

other than that, their older, dead-simple 2-modes lights are practically AWESOME!!

my p100a2 here can run for 1hr30min continously with a FLAT output on a fresh Maha Imedion battery. design issues? the design is pretty spot-on for a personal light. practically COVERED in knurlings, gives excellent grip. only design flaw that i see is the somewhat thin metal around the head area after the threads. that was the part that gave way on my ET head when it *dropped* ( whistling.gif ) on the floor. if you're extremely hardcore and owns a gun license, you'd be going for the TK11 or T100C2 MkII already tongue.gif

btw, just did a current-test for the Nano charger that came with my Wee...

on the rear it says 450mA output rclxub.gif

but luckily, after some simple testing with the DMM, actual currents are only 80mA laugh.gif

although the charging is almost 1C, discharging can go up to more than 5C, 500mA for a 90mAh cell sweat.gif rclxub.gif

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post Oct 2 2009, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Oct 2 2009, 11:04 AM)
I think its because your Nano charger supports different capacity. Like chargers that can charge both AA and AAA for example.

Just some pointers tongue.gif  if your DMM reads currents at 80mA, then it's charging at 0.9C (Calculation: 0.9C*90mAH = 81mA).

When you say discharging up to 500mA, that means it being used in the Wee? 500mA should be around 5.6C (5.6C*90mAH = 504mA)

Btw, I might have missed this info but what type of battery is it and how many volts? (Nimh, Li-ION)

its a li-ion.

though they say li ion is 3.7v nominal, mine is more like 3.7 almost dead sweat.gif laugh.gif

usually once it reaches 3.7v, the output curves starts plumetting down lol.
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post Oct 2 2009, 05:40 PM

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Nitecore headband also doubles as bike light holder! drool.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Oct 2 2009, 09:14 PM

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according to my own judgement, that should be about right smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2009, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Oct 2 2009, 10:40 PM)
Nightstalker1993

didnt know Ubuntu also going into bike parts  icon_idea.gif  laugh.gif
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open source beb! LOL! laugh.gif

QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 3 2009, 12:05 AM)
Oh yeah, just wannt thank old newspaper for letting me tumpang him. biggrin.gif
Really appreciate it.
Wah night, so fast u bought the headband already.

I think philightsophy is doing a great job bringing these lights in.
thumbup.gif

And his prices are very good.
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neh, rookiedaddy faster with his xp-e ezaa laugh.gif

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