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 The Bright Side V2, Night! Lights! Action!

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eow1973
post Aug 29 2009, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Aug 28 2009, 11:15 PM)
I like neutral white tints smile.gif , and I am not alone on this haha!  biggrin.gif
I have a response from ET and they will replace the LED for free when I send the T20C2 head to them on your behalf smile.gif
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rclxms.gif Thanks, bro. That's the benefit of getting lights from local dealers. Anyway, I've just tested it and it still lights up an entire cargo hold plus color rendition seems improved. So, lets work it to death first. Any new Eagletac lights in the horizon utilizing the new xp-g or sst leds?

By the way, got the Jetbeam RRT-2 from Nexro a few days back. A fantastic lighting tool and my last XR-E flashlight, hopefully.

Cheers and thanks again, Kah Wai.
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QUOTE(eow1973 @ Aug 29 2009, 01:00 AM)
rclxms.gif Thanks, bro.  That's the benefit of getting lights from local dealers.  Anyway, I've just tested it and it still lights up an entire cargo hold plus color rendition seems improved.  So, lets work it to death first.  Any new Eagletac lights in the horizon utilizing the new xp-g or sst leds? 

By the way, got the Jetbeam RRT-2 from Nexro a few days back.  A fantastic lighting tool and my last XR-E flashlight, hopefully.

Cheers and thanks again, Kah Wai.
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You are welcome smile.gif
As for new lights with the LEDs you mentioned, I will have to check with ET first smile.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 28 2009, 11:29 PM)
max current draw for MCE is 2.8A due to the 700mA per die..that is why most of the modders and manufacturers alike push it to the max..just like the Legion II..theoretically it should give an output of around 700-800 lumens emitter wise but the OTF i think for Legion II as tested by MrG using his recalibrated IS its around 640 peak. For the SST-90, as tested by Electrolumens he smoked his 24g wires..thats how high the current draw is.
As tested by Justin Case the obvious max current should be around 7A and this give an output in the range of 1500 Lumens steady for few minutes and only drops a little after 20 mins. This should be a more practical approach and Neo has told me that the new legion II with SST-90 will also draw 7A and uses bigger head.

actually i'm still waiting for the outcome from Mac prototype heatsink for SST-90 on Mag. and with the new introduction of F size LiFepo4 cell from Download i think its going to be very busy modding season come this fall. thumbup.gif

Btw the SST-50 drop-in is for the bored SF 6p from Electronguru.
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hey thanks for mentioning 3 CPF members, didn't know MrGman did a huge list of lumen readings. You've spent alot of time in CPF? there's still alot to read about!

So the MCE quad LEDs are in series, thanks for clearing that up. I'll be checking info on SST on Mag and the cell you mentioned shocking.gif

Hey if you can, show your SST-50 drop-in and 6P when it arrives, post some beamshots brows.gif


Added on August 29, 2009, 10:47 am
QUOTE(sniper69 @ Aug 28 2009, 12:12 PM)
ahaaaa... thank you for the information

erm... do we have the kind of charger that can leave overnight...?

that DMM, i shall get it A.S.A.P lah like this... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 28 2009, 01:57 PM)
I have an ultrafire charger and I monitor it when charging...
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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 28 2009, 02:53 PM)
oops didn't know Pila charger has auto cutoff. It should have since it cost more than the Ultrafire. BTW i still am not that comfortable to leave the charger overnight ..just follow the Murphy's law...anything that can go wrong,it will with the worse case scenario..so just be extra careful..
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Heys, just to update on Ultrafire charger. I've did a test today and left the charge until the green light came on, I probably noticed it 5-10 mins later. Took it off warm off the charger and do a DMM test and it shows 4.20. I let it rest for 15mins and it is at 4.19. It appears to be at a safe level. I won't be doing continuity test over the green light though, CPF members have tried it already to proof there's trickle charge on the Ultrafire WF-139.

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post Aug 29 2009, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 29 2009, 10:30 AM)
Heys, just to update on Ultrafire charger. I've did a test today and left the charge until the green light came on, I probably noticed it 5-10 mins later. Took it off warm off the charger and do a DMM test and it shows 4.20. I let it rest for 15mins and it is at 4.19. It appears to be at a safe level. I won't be doing continuity test over the green light though, CPF members have tried it already to proof there's trickle charge on the Ultrafire WF-139.
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back at Seremban, made this "gathering" with other my flashlight family tongue.gif..., not much la compared to you guys... blush.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 27 2009, 02:05 PM)
Hi, its usually a hit or miss with this brand..so far i have bought 2 units from DX. RL-118 and C3 SS..both arrived safely and comes pre-lubed. But feedbacks from CPF stated otherwise on this brand. i guess it depends on your luck..so far my two Ultrafire works fine..
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thanks for info !
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post Aug 29 2009, 07:56 PM

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So hmm.gif... when's the next gathering? cheers.gif thumbup.gif bruce.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 08:37 PM

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guys, just to share a good deal on Panasonic Evolta battery, you can get it at RM5.90 for a pack of 2 and RM11.50 for a pack of 4 at Jusco supermarket. Normal price from Best Denki and Harvey Norman is RM6.90 and RM12.90 respectively. I got mine from Jusco 1 Utama. Not sure how long the promotion will last. biggrin.gif
i know cpfers don't recommend the use of alky in our flashlights, but i've use these with very good results, much better than those crappy and leaky energizer e2 and longer lasting. thumbup.gif

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post Aug 29 2009, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 29 2009, 08:37 PM)
guys, just to share a good deal on Panasonic Evolta battery, you can get it at RM5.90 for a pack of 2 and RM11.50 for a pack of 4 at Jusco supermarket. Normal price from Best Denki and Harvey Norman is RM6.90 and RM12.90 respectively. I got mine from Jusco 1 Utama. Not sure how long the promotion will last.  biggrin.gif
i know cpfers don't recommend the use of alky in our flashlights, but i've use these with very good results, much better than those crappy and leaky energizer e2 and longer lasting.  thumbup.gif
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Just curious, which light do you use this batteries for?
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post Aug 29 2009, 11:13 PM

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Quarks, Nitecore, Fenix, Olight, and some made-in-china...
I'm using both rechargeables and these Pana-alky and usually run them hot and drain them pretty badly.

EDIT: oops... i almost forgot... use them in MiniMag Incan too. brows.gif
EDIT 2: also add ZebraLight to the list... hahaha... doh.gif

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post Aug 29 2009, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 29 2009, 11:13 PM)
Quarks, Nitecore, Fenix, Olight, and some made-in-china...
I'm using both rechargeables and these Pana-alky and usually run them hot and drain them pretty badly.

EDIT: oops... i almost forgot... use them in MiniMag Incan too.  brows.gif
EDIT 2: also add ZebraLight to the list... hahaha...  doh.gif
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Talking about miniMag 2AA, anybody here tried to mod it? Thinking of turning mine to LED..but its the only incan i have left..I have in mind to replace it with a Q3-5A emitter and using OFC heatsink..At least this emitter is warmer and more like incan in color rendition aspect..
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post Aug 30 2009, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 29 2009, 08:37 PM)
guys, just to share a good deal on Panasonic Evolta battery, you can get it at RM5.90 for a pack of 2 and RM11.50 for a pack of 4 at Jusco supermarket. Normal price from Best Denki and Harvey Norman is RM6.90 and RM12.90 respectively. I got mine from Jusco 1 Utama. Not sure how long the promotion will last.  biggrin.gif
i know cpfers don't recommend the use of alky in our flashlights, but i've use these with very good results, much better than those crappy and leaky energizer e2 and longer lasting.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the info. It's okay to use alkalines if one understand its chemistry and limit. Some CPF members hit a dud because they assumed. But mistakes were learnt, i did too. biggrin.gif I have flashlights that can take alkalines only and its in my car, they don't loose charge in heated conditions like if the car is under the sun very long.

QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 29 2009, 11:29 PM)
Talking about miniMag 2AA, anybody here tried to mod it? Thinking of turning mine to LED..but its the only incan i have left..I have in mind to replace it with a Q3-5A emitter and using OFC heatsink..At least this emitter is warmer and more like incan in color rendition aspect..
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OK, well this is nothing compared to the OFC heatsink mod. But, I've used a minimag mod for this flashlight (can buy in Ace Hardware), 3x 5mm LEDs, comes with reflector but I removed it, blueish tint and very very dim on 2AA, it has a boost only circuit but it's not working very well, so I exchanged with 3x N batteries with a spacer.

Hey your OFC heatsink you ordered from CPF? comes with the electronic as well? You can put an MCE-E emitter instead.. thumbup.gif brows.gif

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post Aug 30 2009, 12:20 AM

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nope..only the heatsink..for me i dont need the MCE..just want a warm LED..

BTW nice mod..

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Did anyone go to Borneo rainforest last night?

If you saw a guy dancing with a strobe light at his feet, that's my friend lol.
Took it from me and started strobing the place. Gotta say, it fits clubs really really well. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 29 2009, 10:30 AM)
hey thanks for mentioning 3 CPF members, didn't know MrGman did a huge list of lumen readings. You've spent alot of time in CPF? there's still alot to read about!

So the MCE quad LEDs are in series, thanks for clearing that up. I'll be checking info on SST on Mag and the cell you mentioned  shocking.gif

Hey if you can, show your SST-50 drop-in and 6P when it arrives, post some beamshots  brows.gif


Added on August 29, 2009, 10:47 am
Heys, just to update on Ultrafire charger. I've did a test today and left the charge until the green light came on, I probably noticed it 5-10 mins later. Took it off warm off the charger and do a DMM test and it shows 4.20. I let it rest for 15mins and it is at 4.19. It appears to be at a safe level. I won't be doing continuity test over the green light though, CPF members have tried it already to proof there's trickle charge on the Ultrafire WF-139.
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You didn't know? That was the cause of a lot of mis-understanding and real understanding. Mwahaha!

I left my WF-139 on two nights ago. My 14500 measured 4.13V in the morning! Haha! Probably a dying battery xD
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 1 2009, 02:48 PM)
I left my WF-139 on two nights ago. My 14500 measured 4.13V in the morning! Haha! Probably a dying battery xD
I think the 4.13V is within normal resting voltage range. Your cell doesn't feels hot off the charger doesn't it? rclxs0.gif
Eventhough it's recommended practice to pull the cell right after the light turns green, but I think these newer WF-139 chargers that have open circuit voltage of ~5V have a better charge termination. I remember reading that most of the issues with WF-139 are with those older version that reads ~11V open circuit. shocking.gif
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back from singapore.

managed to get eneloops from best denki takashimaya, 5th floor. i'll be checking them out & seeing how they perform. sorry bro strinq, maybe next time yea?

they mentioned it is recommended to charge & discharge them 2-3 times to maximise battery capacity. i know charging (place batts in charger & charge, duh) but discharge means what..use them as normal izit? i heard maha powerex cam discharge batts on the charger, no?

group fyi: i asked airasia & changi airport staff & they both mentioned that dry batts & flashlights are allowed as check-in & handcarry luggage when entering & departing singapore. SAK & li-ions batts not sure tho.

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post Sep 2 2009, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Sep 2 2009, 03:20 PM)
they mentioned it is recommended to charge & discharge them 2-3 times to maximise battery capacity. i know charging (place batts in charger & charge, duh) but discharge means what..use them as normal izit? i heard maha powerex cam discharge batts on the charger, no?
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Maha chargers have the re-conditioning ability, which will discharge and recharge batteries. Usually, you will do discharge/recharge on 2400 - 2500mA Nimh batteries when they have been stored too long or haven't used for a while. The discharge and recharge function breaks crystals to smaller size within the NiMH plates so they can retain their energy storage as before, so doing discharge/recharge 2-3 times is better for these kind of batteries. You don't have to recharge new batteries, just use them. However, you can discharge and recharge new batteries also no issue. But high heat, overdischarging and overcharging (long trickle charge) can reduce the lifespan of NiMH batts, you discharge/recharge also no use. You'll notice when your batteries become very hot to the touch when discharging or recharging them. It's normal to feel warm after a full charge on the batteries. If you got digital multimeter, it's good to monitor the state of your battery voltage after couple months of usage.

LSD NiMH batteries like eneloop 2000ma, powerex imedion 2100ma, have no problems with crystal build ups within the nickle plates, so these batteries retain their charge longer and you don't really have to perform discharge/recharge. But the high heat, overdischarging overcharging still applies to these batteries, they can still die. Just use them, I think when they reach 0.8 volts (i've never take reading before, but i will this time), need to recharge them already.

Oh, to answer your other question, NiMH are alot happier when being used then keeping them stored (your question to using them as normal), so yeah, use them also can be a form of discharging.

To add on my earlier statement, LSD batteries should be recondition also but not as much as normal NiMH batteries. I'm still new to LSD batts, I've noted down the date purchased and plan to do a reconditioning after 6-8 months. I'm also monitoring the voltage.

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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Sep 2 2009, 03:20 PM)
back from singapore.

managed to get eneloops from best denki takashimaya, 5th floor. i'll be checking them out & seeing how they perform. sorry bro strinq, maybe next time yea?


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hi ray,

Are there any C or D size eneloops in SIN?

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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Sep 2 2009, 05:49 PM)
hi ray,

Are there any C or D size eneloops in SIN?
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yup, they do. i dont know about harvey norman sing but denki takashimaya had a pretty good range available.

re: pseudoblue - umm, ok. sounds complicated. so, in other words i just use them like normal ya? charge them till full, then use like normal. ok got it, thx for the tip..

ray

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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Sep 2 2009, 04:56 PM)
yup, they do. i dont know about harvey norman sing but denki takashimaya had a pretty good range available.

re: pseudoblue - umm, ok. sounds complicated. so, in other words i just use them like normal ya? charge them till full, then use like normal. ok got it, thx for the tip..

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