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pseudoblue
post Nov 9 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Nov 9 2009, 09:32 PM)
pseudoblue

dont worry we have to start some where,
we can make it a yearly event every year a diffrent light for us wink.gif

important this is learn the process 1st icon_rolleyes.gif
then pass on the knowledge to the new flashaholic 

so it wont be a 1 hit wonder thing icon_rolleyes.gif
Well, let's see how it goes for our first one then.

QUOTE(Blackbird @ Nov 9 2009, 09:39 PM)
Guys, what do you think of the Proton Pro? Selling for USD37.95 at Battery Junction. Here's a review of the Proton Pro. Kinda unique and I like the deep pocket clip. Thinking of getting this and the Quark Mini or ITP A2.
Hrmm, the proton looks like a good light, boost circuit only and it has better efficiency with NiMH.

I'm not sure if the UI has a memory function, it seems like it always starts at Max? Then press hold to ramp down to your desired output. When you switch it off, and on again it goes back to Max? Going in and out of signaling mode seems time consuming though, But I guess it's okay cause they are somewhat "hidden", so your normal operation wouldn't be a bother.


Added on November 9, 2009, 11:02 pm
QUOTE(old newspaper @ Nov 9 2009, 10:33 PM)
Solarforce would be a good start with reasonable pricing off the shelf and good quality ! Comparing Xeno and Mr. Lite, i would rather go for the Xeno G5 [ the surefire C2 clone ]....just only diff of +- USD10 in terms of pricing but the Xeno's quality assured. here's my summarized of these 3 lights;

1. SolarForce [ Lm series ] - Cheap, Good Quality, Body parts are easily available and can do 'lego'ing
2. Xeno G5 [ surefire C2 clone ]- Slightly expensive than Mr. Lite, Top notch quality, their spare parts are very complete, best looking light among all
3. Mr. Lite - not sure of it's quality, design is least preferred among all, willing to accommodate any our request, and the're coming out with SST-50 light soon....

my others criteria preferred:
1. must be P60 compatible
2. less people own it [ the model ] so this will become unique than the rest of the lights  brows.gif
3. cheap / reasonable priced without sacrificing the build quality
4. manufacturer must willing to accommodate to any our reasonable request
5.
6.
i would rather we get it right even for the first time [ as most of you guys are expert in this and know exactly what you want or expected ]

my important criteria is that it should be P60 compatible. Having our first light Bright Side is important as to be able to accept P60 compatible drop-in in near future, which will be our second project.  brows.gif
Are u in contact with solarforce? what are the customizable parts?


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post Nov 10 2009, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Blackbird @ Nov 10 2009, 07:18 AM)
Yep, it's unique and design wise is quite nice.
But the shipping from Batt Junction will costs about USD25 la.. so, don't know its worth it or not. sad.gif
From what i read, it will always start with max. I don't know how long is the ramping time. Hmm.. all the nice light coming out.. wallet is going to suffer.

And there's a new light coming out soon AAA and AA... Mr Lite from China. http://www.mrlite.com/ Check it out. The cool thing is they can customise your light intensity level as well as mode(L-M-H or M-L-H etc). I think no one offer this service before, right?
Yea, we were thinking of using Mr.Lite for our LYN flashlight but not anymore. Going for something cheaper. Still, we're waiting for the review from CPF.

Your proton pro will cost more now with shipping, almost around RM200. Some suggestions, you can try the Preon Kit for AAA? We are still waiting for that. Pre-order is opened for Quark Mini by Polkiuj, maybe you can order the Preon as well.

Here's more suggestions, which I replied in previous post:

4Sevens Quark AA Tactical or Regular (Cree XPE-R2 WC/WD) - Buy from Polkiuj
*All 4 below can be bought from Gadgetworld2u. They have other NiteCore AA range as well.
Fenix LD10 with clip (1x AA - Cree XRE-Q5)
NiteCore EZAA Red (1x AA - Cree XPE-R2)
EagleTac P100A2 (2x AA - Cree XPE-Q5 or Q3 - Cool or Warm)
Olight T15 (1x AA - Cree XRE-Q5)

Philightsophy has EagleTac AA range as well. All these lights can get delivered to you locally.

QUOTE(Zen|th @ Nov 10 2009, 09:05 AM)
Hmm From the video it doesnt look to bad... Hills are fine it's the rocky surfaces that I cant...

Argh!! All because of football now my knee gone... dang...
Hey you think your leg would be better then at Jan 2010? If it just happened, then prolly it'll take a while to recover..

QUOTE(susuman @ Nov 10 2009, 09:27 AM)
Ok about the "first Bright Side light", looks like you are very P60 liao wor, haha  laugh.gif

Can I add one more thing, if the P60 drop in has multiple mode, I love the Lumens Factory Style, which the Mode Switch need a quick on/off (flash) the light, say less than 0.6128 seconds  ( tongue.gif ), not 2 seconds, and it remembered the last mode (if it won't remember the Strobe/SOS mode is even better). So it makes it virtually single mode flashlight, good for ppl that like surefire styles (1 mode), but also suitable for emergency usage (strobe/SOS0) because, you can switch on and flash to the desire mode when needed.

Unlike some flashlight, that will switch mode when u on/off the light in less than 2 seconds, or some even 30 seconds. So sometimes when you are in the dark with low mode (say a Med, High, Low, Strobe, SOS light), you off then need to on it in seconds, it blast with strobe mode in max, ah, that is annoying.
Remembers last modes in 0.6128 seconds is very good. I like this UI. I understand the annoyance, hahaha

QUOTE(old newspaper @ Nov 10 2009, 10:18 AM)
here's how the light looks like,

user posted image

details HERE
hahaha, hey i thought we're not going with clones? tongue.gif

This was what we were looking at
user posted image

QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 10 2009, 10:44 AM)
You should use 6P/9P hosts, anodized in Type III, bored for 18605 and then you can custom engrave it. drool.gif
The L2 host we're looking at is alluminum alloy... ok for engraving right.. i know very little about the finishing.

QUOTE(susuman @ Nov 10 2009, 10:54 AM)
try this one
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/Solarforce-BLK-L2-R...=item3efa053b74

ITC is the distributor of the solarforce, I think, and it may be also the owner of the solarforce.hk

(Ps: as the USD traded lower against RM, so the price of USD product are cheaper recently)
ebay blocked from my side, I think newspaper can contact ITC, hee hee..
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post Nov 10 2009, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Nov 10 2009, 12:51 PM)
I know the guy via emai and ebay message, I have no idea they do the customized laser engraving, and they body is full of solarforce logo, we can only laser engrave at the head if use L2. FYI, they also have L2m, a single Cr123A L2 (shorter version of the 6P)

If we have the detail what we want, we could ask a quote, see how they response lor.
Okay...newspaper and me was actually thinking of getting Solarforce to provide us without any of their engraving or only one side for their Logo and model. But I guess, that would cost even more? I was thinking if you can ask regarding that.

And, I'm not sure if there's a flat blank part on the other side or it is fully knurled like ET P100C2.

Another simpler option is just get the L2 as it is. Ask for their additional custom engraving price and what format of media they need for our design. I'm guessing it's either photoshop or illustrator format.

The engraving will have to be on the Bezel already. It will either be reading bezel up or bezel down, or sideways (will be smaller). Engraving are words only at the moment. I'll try to see if I can come out with a wording design. The contents will be:
LYN Flashaholic Community
The Bright Side

Any changes to that? Does it make sense?

Still no email reply regarding our local engraving co.
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post Nov 10 2009, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 10 2009, 01:19 PM)
sweat.gif
See why I love this emitter? drool.gif
Diamond Dragon___________Mag 4C cell__________high_________317.8__,__0 sec_______,

Out the front baby~
Moddoo Triple R2____________560__turn-on____________2X18650 IMR________________,
Moddoo Triple R2____________530__warm 60 sec,______2X18650 IMR_______________,
P60 drop-in anyone? =D
Wow..

Got a technical question for you guys.. it is also related to our P60 direction..

I have thermal concerns regarding P60 dropins at their turbo state. I notice there's not enough contact in between the dropin and the internal bezel wall, there's a gap and the springs are resting on its neck (correct me if i'm wrong). When tightened, it is well sealed with the o-rings, can the heat escape efficiently when there's a gap?

Looking at other flashlights, the quark AA, fenix LD, p100c2, vantage, have its LED soldered on the heatsink and it is part of the bezel. Air cooling during turbo mode is quite efficient. Another example, the M1X has a removable pill, but it's attached very closely to the outer body (screw in), making heat escape instantaneously.

What you guys think?


QUOTE(susuman @ Nov 10 2009, 04:32 PM)
The engraving was on 2 flat part in the body, both were engraved with their logo. So maybe need to ask purposely not to engrave that part? Not sure about that.

FYI, that solarforce L2 has a very shiny blank anodized, some may not like it, though.

For the content, will it be better will more like a Malaysia level, like "MY Flashaholic"
well it will be great if it has nickname too:

        MY Flashaholic
            susuman

I am asked a pal, he work in a company doing laser engraving, so will get his help. he estimated around RM10, but problem is the setup, because it is depends on the size, shape and the engraving surface (flat or not).
Updated: not setup cost now  thumbup.gif
wow.. RM10? this is cool, any amount of quantity?

Shiny anondized is good right? lol

I'm okay with "MY Flashaholic" followed by nickname..
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post Nov 10 2009, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 10 2009, 05:59 PM)
Hehehe~!

I've no experience with P60 but some people have mentioned sandwiching the gap with aluminum foil to help with heat management. Or do it Malkoff style.

Heat management is my concern for P60. =)

I dun like shiny anodizing. Prefer bead/sand blasted and matte but whatever goes. Reason: Shiny looks cheap. xD
Ok.. so that shiny bezel is an issue sweat.gif



QUOTE(masfiq @ Nov 10 2009, 06:58 PM)
all of u really have a lots of flashlight...
one day when u need to moved out,maybe need a 3 tan lorry just to moved ur flashlight ahaks....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

need small favor from all of u....
between FENIX P2D PREMIUM Q5 CREE LED & NITECORE EZ123 CREE XR-E Q5 LED
which 1 do u preffer...
right now i think of NITECORE EZ123 CREE XR-E Q5 LED ( need help from susuman hehehehe )  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

Both lights have different UI and config that will meet different needs.

Fenix P2D or the new PD20 (XRE-Q5 or XPE-R2) UI are a simple reverse clicky, click to on, then soft press to change modes. Tighten bezel for Turbo modes. Only uses RCR123 and CR123 (3v range). Not sure can use 16340 4.2v Li-ION.

The Nitecore EZ123 or better, EX10 R2 is famous for their piston drive technology, variable brightness config. You can choose any level of brightness you wish and it remembers it when you switch it off. For tactical purpose, you can access the max and low mode anytime still. It can run on any 3v range battery or better 16340 Li-ION 4.2v.

Polkiuj might have an extra 4Sevens Quark CR123? Quark's UI is similar to the Fenix but offer moonlight and brighter than both PD and EX, and can run on 16340. Nice knurling and useful clip wink.gif

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post Nov 10 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Nov 10 2009, 10:05 PM)
dont forget mini quark 123 laugh.gif
sweat.gif so many 123 lights to choose from!!! drool.gif
There's the Fenix PD10 also, Eagletac P10C, iTP A1 EOS!! wacko.gif
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post Nov 10 2009, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Nov 10 2009, 10:29 PM)
buy them all!  drool.gif

iTP A1 EOS and Mini Quark is not that expensive whistling.gif
doh.gif sweat.gif icon_question.gif I'm considering the iTP biggrin.gif The good thing about keeping XLS records is that... it's keeping your budget too! HEE HEE..

On the previous gathering, I couldn't resist Jwyj's offer on his EagleTac P100C2 - XPE Q5.
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The 17670 batt i bought? Was for it and was using CR123As biggrin.gif Been testing it for days now and wow, I luv it! Great knurling and feel. Two modes only, straight forward bezel tight and loose. It's small but great thermal management. Ran general mode for more than 20mins and it doesn't feel warm, ran turbo for 2 mins till it gets warm, then left it under direct fan and it went on for more than **45 mins so far (still running) and it's only warm to the touch. I remember reading somewhere that the built quality is not as tough as the MKII, let's hope I don't drop it hard enough sweat.gif

QUOTE(strinq @ Nov 10 2009, 11:22 PM)
Loving the idea of the custom light but the engraving will not come cheap, pretty sure of that haha. But if it does then good. smile.gif

All this lights at the time where money is important...sigh...
Susuman mentioned engraving abt RM10... You know I was thinking that we can just select any of our favourite flashlight candidate, and send for a custom engraving we all agree on. So it looks like a standard engraving. But on different lights of our choice... hmm.gif

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post Nov 11 2009, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(masfiq @ Nov 11 2009, 12:49 AM)
thanks for the all suggestion...
i only familiar with fenix hehehehehe.... smile.gif
but the price quite high for 123 hehehehe...
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im considering to buy nitecore since bro susuman post the nitecore year end sale hehehehe...
brows.gif  brows.gif

my budget around rm 150 heheheh...
the flash not for me but for my wife to be. cool2.gif  cool2.gif
Hrm, the iTP A1 or A2 EOS may seem suitable for your fiancee, check it out here.

The Quark Mini AA or 123 seems like a good buy too, and it gives the latest and brightest XPG R5 LED. You think you wanna consider a Preon instead? Need pics?
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post Nov 11 2009, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Nov 11 2009, 01:33 AM)
I WANT THAT CUBE!!

just bought a pair of rm180 earphones, wallet empty now cry.gif
nightstalker!! where have u been? lol, your last message was about the cube and it awaken you again wink.gif Long time no see tongue.gif

Cube has a good price, I'm still considering icon_question.gif sweat.gif rclxub.gif unsure.gif

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post Nov 11 2009, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(masfiq @ Nov 11 2009, 01:41 AM)

Added on November 11, 2009, 1:44 am
thanks bro....
almost forgot about that new flashlight... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
but what do u think about the quality and lumens.....
the iTP A1 EOS CREE XP-E Q5 LED FLASHLIGHT rclxub.gif
For a price about RM85. i think it's very good. It's a twisty interface. But I don't have the light to give further comments.
It's lumens output and runtime: Low 1.8 lm (150 Hrs) --- Med 35 lm (8 Hrs) --- High 190 lm (1.6 Hrs). 190lm for a small cr123 light is very bright.

I've read selfbuilt's review on the A3 and it seems that the built quality on iTP is reliable but it's not a tank.

I have a Quark AA Tactical and I can say that its quality and performance is very good. 47s reputation should follow or else improve in their new lights like the Mini series.
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post Nov 11 2009, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 11 2009, 09:38 AM)
Erm... EZ123 is a 2 mode twisty. Not piston drive
Yikes! doh.gif yes, the EX is, not the EZ blush.gif

QUOTE(susuman @ Nov 11 2009, 09:40 AM)
I think most of the P60 Dropin contact the body from the front of the reflector and the back from the spring, so there is 2 contact to dissipate the heat, but the reflector is big compare to many lights, so the dissipation through the whole aluminum reflector is also some help.

yeah, put some heat conductive between the reflector and body should be good too. So far I have no problem with 3 of my p60 lights with heat. Hay, I got a cheapo chinese made 1 CR123A light, it was on for about 30min in High 200lm++ (Over direct-drive with 4.2V Li-on), and the light was as hot as fresh brew coffee, cannot hold the light (I left the light on bed to beam on the aircond while I service/cleaning it), I just turn if off carefully.

And you know what, no burnt mark in the LED. My Fenix P3D, 20 min (or less) in Turbo , its burnt at spot (You heard it before). Hey, so how is your Fenix TK ? Can replace?
Oh, the engraving, I got it thought a friend, he is in the industry previously, I told him the quantity is 10-20 pcs.

Yeah, some find the shinny anodizing is cheapo, maybe look harder?
Well good to know P60 heatsinks are reliable for that long, if it can withstand that amount of heat without burnt marks, then air cooling could already be sufficient. Just that temperature on the P60 heatsink and head still varies, but heat can escape 'in time'.

Har, still no news about me TK40... vmad.gif bruce.gif

For our LYN light, we have to consider another host now. With all these new stuff and GB, don't know if we can afford our own engraving light! sweat.gif

What IF... we use a standard engraving (with usernames), and then put it on one light (or more) we choose from our own best collection? So the cost will be on the engraving and shipping of personal lights to us, then ship back to them (for those who are not in PJ/KL). What do you think of this?
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QUOTE(susuman @ Nov 11 2009, 10:18 AM)
Oh, DX do sell empty host for DIY, let me check abit

So we could get a standard host, have our own engraving, and individual order their preferred drop in? We will get something special like, costumed made holster or holster with special stitches?
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http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/cat...917~search.body
the DIY Host!
Yea, i came across some of these in DX, but I overlook cause it may not be a good quality type? Hrmm, maybe can, it's cheap... price can be the priority for now.

DX seems to be down now.
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Haha guys, I've thought abt the seraph, was looking at philight's lumensfactory lyn page yesterday. But the SP-6 kit is touching RM175. Engraving can be done on the other side of the "neck", or the top body. smile.gif

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post Nov 11 2009, 11:23 AM

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Or, if we can get the SP-6 Xenon, it's cheaper. Then whoever wants that Thrunite XPG-R5 dropin, can go ahead whistling.gif

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QUOTE(surefire v LED @ Nov 11 2009, 12:46 PM)
my militery spec 24 AWG wires arrived today.
more modding coming soon  brows.gif
hey nanotech brows.gif I'm following your CPF post too thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Nov 11 2009, 01:07 PM)
Just to add a bit to our local flashlight project, I can bring in the SP-6 Xenon version to keep the cost low. But I do know that LED seems to be a better choice for most of us I think smile.gif
I am open to discussions about this and no strings attached smile.gif
Looks like we have more response in the Seraph for our LYN Flashlight than the L2 or DIY.

How now brown cow?

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QUOTE(susuman @ Nov 11 2009, 04:23 PM)
I got another idea, to use a customised LED Lenser P5,

See the photo attached:
And can engrave in the SS Bezel and the Body (There is an empty place for engraving)

I copy the idea of the customised P5 from my friend, and put a "susuman" in it, wah, very unique!!
Mmm, it has a blank space for engraving too lol...



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post Nov 11 2009, 05:39 PM

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LYN Flashlight Update:

We have a Lenser P5 suggestion and pic above. What you guys think of it?

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Here's some suggestion how we should proceed, if we really decide on Seraph

Many of you have the Seraph already (SP-6 or SP-9). In that case, you only need to spend on the engraving cost. Personal shipping cost will involve depending on how you want it delivered to us.

For those who don't have, the Seraph quality is alot better than Ultrafire, Solarforce clone or the DIY tongue.gif I've have felt and tested abit of susuman's SP-6 xenon, I think I gave a comment on the 24th Oct gathering wrapped up post.

1) We need a number of people who will commit the SP-6 Xenon or 3 Mode LED. So philightsophy can arrange and have a price for us. Let's not have him on an overstock yea biggrin.gif
- decide if you want to receive the Seraph from Philightsophy directly or delivered to us first (to whom specifically, decide later). So we can keep and ready for engraving, then deliver it to you via PosLaju or courier service (your delivery cost).
2) Price per unit to be engraved.
3) To decide on the engraving design and content (i'll try to come out with a crappy scatch too)
4) ...

Those interested:

List A (Seraph owners):
- Susuman
- Rookiedaddy
- Old Newspaper
- Philightsophy

List B - Interested in the Seraph (unconfirm orders - this list is for review only)
- pseudoblue - SP-6 Xenon
- polkiuj - SP-9 Xenon
- damonlbs -
- strinq -

Philightsophy, what's the estimated cost, if you can post here, that we're looking at for the SP-6 Xenon?

SP-9 is at RM155 at the moment.

More feedback pls biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(susuman @ Nov 11 2009, 06:43 PM)
Any one like a Neutral White Version of the RRT-0  biggrin.gif

If interested, we would Group Buy the NW RRT-O, special edition for us , the LYN Flashaholics (and optional to engrave?)

If the number is good, say 10 pcs, I think we can get a NW RRT-0, huhu, no 1 has it. drool.gif

Or maybe we get a mix normal R2 adn NW RRT-0, see they allow or not.
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This light is yummy, i can see a small area for engraving in between the bezel. But some of us don't like the rings around the beam sad.gif

I'm okay with it, since I don't look at the rings if you're really using the light. But sometimes too much can be annoying kakaka...
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Nov 11 2009, 10:11 PM)
Just came back from travelling and got something from susuman's friend.
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Both are new.  biggrin.gif
What flashlight is that below the MRV??

QUOTE(damonlbs @ Nov 11 2009, 10:40 PM)
pseudoblue

can the laser engraving write on curve surface or onli flat surface?
Yeah it can be done on curve surface, seen many already, but like what susuman said, have to rely on the engraving software so it won't distort. Depends on our design too unsure.gif

QUOTE(susuman @ Nov 11 2009, 10:53 PM)
jywy buying flashlight is like buying vegetables, "eh, give me two jetbeam I Pro, 1 Tiablo A9 and also A10, ok I will take 2 surefire LX2, 2 E1E, and 2 more L1."

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Very healthy, and most expensive organic vegetables huh...

QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Nov 11 2009, 11:40 PM)
Just came back from trying polkiuj's Ti Quark. Sweet little thing.  thumbup.gif
The beam is very smooth, not too greenish, a little on the warmth side, nice hot spot and bright spills.

also got the DeoxIT Gold from him...  drool.gif
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I've got pretty good results from using these "enhancer" on my flashlights. My TK20 runs cooler because of it...  biggrin.gif
A drop on the base of EZAA makes the turning action smooth as silk. Pretty cool product.  thumbup.gif
OH, arrived already? I wanna see, I wanna seeee!! tongue.gif
You meeting anyone today for delivery? at GW2U? drool.gif

Hrm, that deoxIT is cool..

QUOTE(Blackbird @ Nov 12 2009, 07:59 AM)
Yep, agree.  It's a very nice light though. Wah, this month pokai already. Few flashlight and gadgets on the way...
biggrin.gif Yes, more to the bright side....

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Nov 12 2009, 09:07 AM)
As per to date, we already have 13 confirmed order [ flashlight ] for this Group Buy.  thumbup.gif

Oooo very good responses for the Xeno! thumbup.gif

Newspaper, I have to skip this round of GB yeah. icon_rolleyes.gif

- - - - -

On the other hand, the yummy RRT-0 is quite ex leh sweat.gif unsure.gif

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