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nismo91
post Aug 12 2009, 10:48 AM

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u like bass, and overall sound quality. klipsches cant go wrong. from promedia 2.1, gmx and ifi. their 2.1 is always top notch in price offered.

but u cant find them anyway. so let say its discontinued forever. really sad but that's the case. assume they're not even born.

so anyway, logitech Z2300, Altec MX5021 and Edifier S530D might be good pick. for the altec, again, the old one are better than the new one. same as klipsch, assume the good old MX5021 is gone.

if u said regardless of price, visit some shops and try listen to Edifier S530D or S730D depending on your room size. logitech z cinema is having good reviews as well.
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post Aug 12 2009, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 12 2009, 11:22 AM)
what u say is right..nismo91..i cant make my decision now one of the reason is old one better than new 1..i hv read a lot of review and comment..the new klipsch pormedia GMX 2.1 now selling for RM399..some of them attach pic and prove that the quality(material) has been downgraded.

my room just suitable to put a 2.1 speaker only..so 5.1 will not in my consider list..

beside..do u own or use klipsch pormedia GMX 2.1 before??i hear ppl say there is "hiss hiss" sound when the speaker open to loud..n they claim that this situation is normal for this speaker wor..really got the sound??if yes, i worry that will affect the performance for the speaker
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yes, i do own the gmx before (actually got it from forumer). i also posted a picture between old and new gmx. not really a performance degradation i'd say. cause not alot of parts replaced. for MX5021, there are significant degradation because of missing of some parts.

hissing is audible whenever the speaker is turned on. even though you turned the remote (volume switch) to minimum / off, there will be hissing. but i consider it as alright, though i find it little disturbing because i slept next to my computer table. small room.

however, since i got my klipsch gmx 2nd hand, as well as i only used it for a month, (i sold it off immediately after i finish watching prison break that time). so i dont really know GMX performance in long-term. all i can say, its bass is quite deep, boomy, midrange ok, tweeter sharp. good for small room only.

if, by any chance u can get new unit, trust me it even beats all i heard in price range in sg, edifier s530, altec mx5021 fx6021, creative t3.
400 is even better. before klipsch gmx disappear in sg (many wtb new gmx in forums) the last new price was 280, which is about 600.
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post Aug 12 2009, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 12 2009, 06:33 PM)
oh no..i m very sensitive to this kind of sound..the hiss sound will make me feel uncomfortable..
nismo91, how u know altec lansing is significant degradation because of missing of some parts??
beside, u r klipsch supporter??so far, as i know who own or use klipsch pormedia GMX 2.1 9/10 ppl will really like this speaker, can say love this speaker. and they are highly recommend ppl to buy n try.

does the material for the subwoofer is the main issue to consider??some say wood can produce much more nice and pure sound if compare to plastic make subwoofer.
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haha. its better to avoid the GMX then. well, not sure, last time when i dont know klipsch i thought what the hell is this brand... after getting GMX, my mind changes. after further upgrade to klipsch i-fi, even better, i like klipsch more.

the issue im afraid is that some said klipsch are prone to failure. myself havnt experience it yet. so i decided to go to logitech forums as well. to my surprise, many z5500 user also complaint. so it means, generally, klipsch is not that bad.

as for the MX5021, i listened to both at the same place in sg, sim lim square, same day, same hour. they're at the 5th and 6th floor. the old one is on the 5th. it's because im looking for a speaker, basically that time i have no speaker left, and i got alot of prison break dvds. so i decided to get the forumer' gmx real quickly, and sold it off once i finished watching. lol

nono, the material degradation, u can see on the picture above. im the one that post the picture that shows the inner crossover of MX5021.
beside, the quality of the subwoofer cone itself is different. after listening to GMX, its much better than MX5021 in my ear. especially with i-fi now. its significantly better than any 2.1 speaker i've ever heard today.

anyway, since u said u like bass, GMX will be actually a good choice. based on my preference though.
but for me personally i used to fancy MX5021 when it first revealed. now, i dont even recommend it. as for Z2300, sorry but havnt heard yet.
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 12 2009, 11:48 PM)
smile.gif thx for ur opinion on altec lansing mx5021..i got clear image now.. for z2300, the only thing i know is this speaker can play very loud only..
regarding the klipsch  i-fi, i 1st time know this..thx for ur recommend..i go to klipsch website there is only 4 models under ipod and computer speaker category..hv to google it then only can get it.. tongue.gif

in term of sound quality, klipsch i-fi can beat klipsch promedia gmx 2.1 and altec lansing mx5021?? what about the price??i downloaded all the price list in lyn..seem like no any shop is selling this model..
lyp got..bro..all it, viewnet also got..u can check it out..
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yes definitely, ifi is much better than the old promedia 2.1, which already pawns mx5021 and gmx big time. the price alone is evident... it has wide soundstage and very very rich midrange. unlike found in typical 2.1 speakers. but of course, it has less sharp tweeter. but trust me it makes good sound with this characteristic. i tried upping some high frequency bar to make it sharper, but it'd sound weird and less musical. now i know why klipsch design it that way. as for the bass, if you;re really keen in the ifi. it is not boomy at all. it is very deep, much deeper than GMX and vibrate alot. the very first day i setup the ifi i receive numerous complaints, while blasting with gmx never trigger any complain, at all. last word, ifi not for small room.

anyway not sure can find ifi or not... some of my friends also looking for this speaker. im quite lucky to got it from ebay. i didnt regret a single cent of it. u also can always google for reviews. generally some people have different taste, but those reviews should help u image what is the speaker gonna sound. but i strongly encourage u to listen to it before buying. many ppl has different taste.


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post Aug 13 2009, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 13 2009, 12:32 AM)
no luck to buy from him..he just can cod at melacca
ok..once again..thx for ur comment here.. notworthy.gif i m sure i will try to listen and compare the speaker before i buy it..but duno got luck can compare mx5021, klipsch promedia GMX and logitech at the same time or not..for sure, i think the speaker as u mention to me, ifi mayb not available in malaysia.

Altec Lansing MX5021 is leading now...
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no problem... u see, from my prediction, klipsch will no longer export more units to be sold over here... since their base is at US. they have to create new transformer if they want to export. and they dont see the market here is growing as well. i'd say it is really discontinued...

hence, even now i'd like to recommend a gmx to my friends and cousin, none of them could acquire it either. im sure, if one of my friend found it, he will surely bought it... after listening to my speaker as an example.

as for the MX5021... even though it has been cut-cost... the term forumer say it., it still sounds okay. what makes me dont recommend them is the price. since i find gmx is cheap in msia, considering 600 in sg converted, MX5021 should go cheaper imo.

anyway here is my ifi. laugh.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qOtUzJsp4o

QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 13 2009, 09:50 AM)
Z4 not even can beat Z2300..how can Z4 compete with altec altec lansing mx5021 and klipsch promedia gmx 2.1??
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logitech Z4 has only 4inch driver in bandpass configuration, with 8" passive cone replacing the port.
you can read it here. actually sorry for all Z4 owners, the fact will make u sad.

This post has been edited by nismo91: Aug 15 2009, 04:24 PM
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post Aug 15 2009, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Aug 13 2009, 05:37 PM)
But if you compare new MX5021 to old MX5021 side by side.... u will really  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Plus the new version price sammore.......  doh.gif

Nice ifi...despite the strong bass still can hear the vocal very warm in your youtube vid...
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lol, i got an updated video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qOtUzJsp4o if you dont mind increasing the view count. haha

QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 13 2009, 07:22 PM)
u r right..nismo91..the price bewteen MX5021 and Klipsch promedia gmx 2.1 is around rm150 different..moreover, the design for gmx is outstanding if compare with those normal speaker..and the design some of the ppl is cant accept to it..anyway, now i already cant wait and wanna test and compare gmx..nismo91, u make me so desire to listen the sound produce by gmx right now.. tongue.gif 
haha..for those who dislike the design for klipsch promedia gmx, altec lansing mx5021 may is the best alternative.. smile.gif
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well yes, but i find the MX5021 look more interesting with its glossy paint... the good thing about the GMX is that it uses slot port model, like the ifi. so it reduces port flutter, although it's more audible in gmx than ifi. still, its better than having ordinary round port. for MX5021, it uses square port if not wrong...
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post Aug 15 2009, 09:10 PM

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well, i suggest you take a look at my youtube video i posted above. in timeframe 3:25 u will see the slot port. gmx use the similar slot port.

basically, most computer subwoofer have "tuned" port, so called like a strengthening pipe, to strengthen the resonance inside the subwoofer box. by using different types, length, shape of ports, different characteristic of sound can be achieved.

the difference in sound doesnt depend on the shape, but depends on the engineering of the speaker itself. at least, using slot port is a harder way to tune subwoofer rather than round port.

that is why, i guess, klipsch promedia gmx have a price close to Klipsch Promedia 2.1 THX, which has superior amp, also 'fee' for THX imprint. the reason beside the modeling is because the port design too.

however the gmx still have noisy flutter sound despite the slot port. i still can hear alot of air sound in moderate volume. well cant expect too much, i find it much better than old MX5021 already.

for the MX5021 vs Z2300, its ur decision to make. depends on your usage.

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post Aug 16 2009, 10:42 AM

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from the picture above, at the bottom of the klipsch it has long wide hole right... it is the slot port...

compare to the logitech z2300, which has round hole at the side.

well, vote doesnt mean anything though, it has to do with preference of voters... i remember when i vote its 0 for gmx. lol yes, as what others said, gmx is difficult to find... that's why some is desperate for it...

myself, if i can found new one for 400 i'll definitely buy it today, even right now. laugh.gif
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post Aug 16 2009, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 16 2009, 12:06 PM)
ok..i know jor..thx ya..

well, i know..bro..the vote result just can be my part of reference only..i will try to get gmx n test it then i will decide to which to buy then..

nismo91, i got another question..my laptop and my desktop r using internal sound card..do the sound card will effect the speaker performance?
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well yes, soundcard is very important also, but i dont have fancy soundcard at the moment. used to plug in x-fi xtreme audio to my ifi and after my mobo breakdowns, im back to internal soundcard since the new mobo have blocked PCI slot from my graphic card fan.

anyway even from x-fi xtreme audio to onboard (realtek) there are noticable difference. the difference are not big if im using my old 2.1 speaker, but when using ifi many things are changed. in my case, i buy soundcard that cost about half of the speaker price.

just like for cars, i say speaker are the rims, and the soundcard are the tyres. they work together. in order to get good result, both must be good.

for your case, i recommend getting soundcard for the gmx or even z2300 or mx5021.
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post Aug 16 2009, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 16 2009, 06:04 PM)
omg.. doh.gif ..after buying those thing..i will be bankrupt soon.. cry.gif what is the different when u play music with sound card and without??can u share here?nismo91

in my case i think i better get a external sound card rather than internal..cause i m using laptop all the time..unlucky, laptop motherboard cant replace it..aiks...

as i know, logitech is capable with mac..klipsch gmx and mx5021 i m nt sure..mayb u can ask the shop seller when u visit to any computer shop..
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the difference for my case, x-fi xtreme audio, cheapest here, is that the sound will more more full. means the bass go deeper, the treble go sharper and the midbass go more wide. not that much though. depends on how good your SC is. my SC is a cheap one so its like that. but noticable enough.

im trying to sell my old pci xfi and get pcie x-fi so i can get better sound from my speakers at desktop.

for external card, not really much option. i rather onboard for laptop. im also using laptop now. because i dont like mess and i need the mobility of a laptop. so hooking up to a external is not so good. if u want, there are ExpressCard and USB soundcard.


anyway chingwooi means soundcard la, not speaker. laugh.gif
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post Aug 16 2009, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 16 2009, 09:50 PM)
oops.gif ..sorry..didt read baik baik for chingwooi msg..aiks..

ok..what about if the speaker play with ipod or tv???do u play with ipod or tv b4?there is no more sound card in ipod and mp3 right??will performs bad?
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haha for any multimedia speakers, it will be okay to use with ipod i think... for my klispch ifi, well it is made for ipod, i just snug ipod at the dock and start listening. haha, no problem at all. tv i think also the same... tried before for a while... doesnt cause any harm i think.

mp3, it will be okay, they dont have soundcard, and they already performs bad.. if u want good sound, it doesnt start with mp3 player in the first place... at least it will be original CD playing in expensive CD player... much superior to compressed mp3.
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post Aug 17 2009, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 17 2009, 04:02 PM)
notworthy.gif haha..okok..thanks nismo91..u r so pro in speaker..during the thread here, i had learn a lot from u..r u just born in 1991??if yes then really notworthy.gif  laugh.gif
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not pro la... im really beginner. it just co-incidence that i can answer some of your question, because in the past i used to have the same question as well. hahaha from using entry computer speakers like people here, and upgrade upgrade... there are alot more pros here, just see other threads... they have better overall system than me, more knowledge and even they dont listen to MP3s like me. those pros listen to FLAC, which is uncompressed. usually sourced from original cd. rclxms.gif


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post Aug 20 2009, 10:39 PM

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my word is, as people have told you earlier... gmx almost vanish in the market already.. must find shops that keep old stocks... lol
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post Sep 19 2009, 02:08 PM

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so how does it sound? really rare sia the new one...
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post Sep 20 2009, 05:22 PM

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@ -W-

well good luck with it.. im pretty sure its a good buy compared to MX5021 and logitech Z2300... anyway u can join the club. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/279472/+100

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