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post Aug 13 2009, 08:29 AM

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There's a chance to grab Klipsch ProMedia GMX A-2.1, GOOD LUCK! wink.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1128177
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post Aug 13 2009, 08:30 AM

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logi Z4
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post Aug 13 2009, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Aug 13 2009, 08:29 AM)
There's a chance to grab Klipsch ProMedia GMX A-2.1, GOOD LUCK! wink.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1128177
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no luck la..zeustronic..got to travel to malacca and cod..

QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Aug 13 2009, 08:30 AM)
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Z4 not even can beat Z2300..how can Z4 compete with altec altec lansing mx5021 and klipsch promedia gmx 2.1??
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post Aug 13 2009, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 13 2009, 12:32 AM)
no luck to buy from him..he just can cod at melacca
ok..once again..thx for ur comment here.. notworthy.gif i m sure i will try to listen and compare the speaker before i buy it..but duno got luck can compare mx5021, klipsch promedia GMX and logitech at the same time or not..for sure, i think the speaker as u mention to me, ifi mayb not available in malaysia.

Altec Lansing MX5021 is leading now...
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no problem... u see, from my prediction, klipsch will no longer export more units to be sold over here... since their base is at US. they have to create new transformer if they want to export. and they dont see the market here is growing as well. i'd say it is really discontinued...

hence, even now i'd like to recommend a gmx to my friends and cousin, none of them could acquire it either. im sure, if one of my friend found it, he will surely bought it... after listening to my speaker as an example.

as for the MX5021... even though it has been cut-cost... the term forumer say it., it still sounds okay. what makes me dont recommend them is the price. since i find gmx is cheap in msia, considering 600 in sg converted, MX5021 should go cheaper imo.

anyway here is my ifi. laugh.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qOtUzJsp4o

QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 13 2009, 09:50 AM)
Z4 not even can beat Z2300..how can Z4 compete with altec altec lansing mx5021 and klipsch promedia gmx 2.1??
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logitech Z4 has only 4inch driver in bandpass configuration, with 8" passive cone replacing the port.
you can read it here. actually sorry for all Z4 owners, the fact will make u sad.

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post Aug 13 2009, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Aug 13 2009, 10:23 AM)
as for the MX5021... even though it has been cut-cost... the term forumer say it., it still sounds okay. what makes me dont recommend them is the price. since i find gmx is cheap in msia, considering 600 in sg converted, MX5021 should go cheaper imo.

anyway here is my ifi. laugh.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swHucs5HYxc
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But if you compare new MX5021 to old MX5021 side by side.... u will really rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

Plus the new version price sammore....... doh.gif

Nice ifi...despite the strong bass still can hear the vocal very warm in your youtube vid...
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post Aug 13 2009, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Aug 13 2009, 10:23 AM)
no problem... u see, from my prediction, klipsch will no longer export more units to be sold over here... since their base is at US. they have to create new transformer if they want to export. and they dont see the market here is growing as well. i'd say it is really discontinued...

hence, even now i'd like to recommend a gmx to my friends and cousin, none of them could acquire it either. im sure, if one of my friend found it, he will surely bought it... after listening to my speaker as an example.

as for the MX5021... even though it has been cut-cost... the term forumer say it., it still sounds okay. what makes me dont recommend them is the price. since i find gmx is cheap in msia, considering 600 in sg converted, MX5021 should go cheaper imo.

anyway here is my ifi. laugh.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swHucs5HYxc
logitech Z4 has only 4inch driver in bandpass configuration, with 8" passive cone replacing the port.
you can read it here. actually sorry for all Z4 owners, the fact will make u sad.
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u r right..nismo91..the price bewteen MX5021 and Klipsch promedia gmx 2.1 is around rm150 different..moreover, the design for gmx is outstanding if compare with those normal speaker..and the design some of the ppl is cant accept to it..anyway, now i already cant wait and wanna test and compare gmx..nismo91, u make me so desire to listen the sound produce by gmx right now.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Aug 13 2009, 05:37 PM)
But if you compare new MX5021 to old MX5021 side by side.... u will really  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Plus the new version price sammore.......  doh.gif

Nice ifi...despite the strong bass still can hear the vocal very warm in your youtube vid...
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haha..for those who dislike the design for klipsch promedia gmx, altec lansing mx5021 may is the best alternative.. smile.gif

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post Aug 15 2009, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Aug 13 2009, 05:37 PM)
But if you compare new MX5021 to old MX5021 side by side.... u will really  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Plus the new version price sammore.......  doh.gif

Nice ifi...despite the strong bass still can hear the vocal very warm in your youtube vid...
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lol, i got an updated video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qOtUzJsp4o if you dont mind increasing the view count. haha

QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 13 2009, 07:22 PM)
u r right..nismo91..the price bewteen MX5021 and Klipsch promedia gmx 2.1 is around rm150 different..moreover, the design for gmx is outstanding if compare with those normal speaker..and the design some of the ppl is cant accept to it..anyway, now i already cant wait and wanna test and compare gmx..nismo91, u make me so desire to listen the sound produce by gmx right now.. tongue.gif 
haha..for those who dislike the design for klipsch promedia gmx, altec lansing mx5021 may is the best alternative.. smile.gif
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well yes, but i find the MX5021 look more interesting with its glossy paint... the good thing about the GMX is that it uses slot port model, like the ifi. so it reduces port flutter, although it's more audible in gmx than ifi. still, its better than having ordinary round port. for MX5021, it uses square port if not wrong...
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Aug 15 2009, 04:27 PM)
lol, i got an updated video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qOtUzJsp4o if you dont mind increasing the view count. haha

well yes, but i find the MX5021 look more interesting with its glossy paint... the good thing about the GMX is that it uses slot port model, like the ifi. so it reduces port flutter, although it's more audible in gmx than ifi. still, its better than having ordinary round port. for MX5021, it uses square port if not wrong...
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yesterday i went to power ikano all it to hv a look for the speaker..Unfortunately, they just hv logitech z2300 and altec lansing mx5021..aiks..no luck to see klipsch gmx..i very surprise to the size of altec lansing mx5021 especially the satellites..wow..is very huge.. sweat.gif doh.gif ..can use it to hit ppl already.. tongue.gif when comparing between logitech z2300 and the altec lansing mx5021..there is no doubt..the bass of z2300 is far away better than mx 5021..mx 5021 is better in sound quality..i hv verified this 2 thing by myself..one more thing is the Appearance。。logitech z2300 hv a better looking compare to mx5021..

nismo91, what is slot port model?
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post Aug 15 2009, 09:10 PM

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well, i suggest you take a look at my youtube video i posted above. in timeframe 3:25 u will see the slot port. gmx use the similar slot port.

basically, most computer subwoofer have "tuned" port, so called like a strengthening pipe, to strengthen the resonance inside the subwoofer box. by using different types, length, shape of ports, different characteristic of sound can be achieved.

the difference in sound doesnt depend on the shape, but depends on the engineering of the speaker itself. at least, using slot port is a harder way to tune subwoofer rather than round port.

that is why, i guess, klipsch promedia gmx have a price close to Klipsch Promedia 2.1 THX, which has superior amp, also 'fee' for THX imprint. the reason beside the modeling is because the port design too.

however the gmx still have noisy flutter sound despite the slot port. i still can hear alot of air sound in moderate volume. well cant expect too much, i find it much better than old MX5021 already.

for the MX5021 vs Z2300, its ur decision to make. depends on your usage.

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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Aug 15 2009, 09:10 PM)
well, i suggest you take a look at my youtube video i posted above. in timeframe 3:25 u will see the slot port. gmx use the similar slot port.

basically, most computer subwoofer have "tuned" port, so called like a strengthening pipe, to strengthen the resonance inside the subwoofer box. by using different types, length, shape of ports, different characteristic of sound can be achieved.

the difference in sound doesnt depend on the shape, but depends on the engineering of the speaker itself. at least, using slot port is a harder way to tune subwoofer rather than round port.

that is why, i guess, klipsch promedia gmx have a price close to Klipsch Promedia 2.1 THX, which has superior amp, also 'fee' for THX imprint. the reason beside the modeling is because the port design too.

however the gmx still have noisy flutter sound despite the slot port. i still can hear alot of air sound in moderate volume. well cant expect too much, i find it much better than old MX5021 already.

for the MX5021 vs Z2300, its ur decision to make. depends on your usage.

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u mean the yellow cable which is plug in the klipsch gmx??

now, i just hope that got a shop have display altec lansing mx5021 and klipsch gmx..then i can compare both of the speaker at the same time..in my mind klipsch is my preference.. smile.gif

klipsch promedia gmx 2.1 is leading in the vote now..
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post Aug 16 2009, 10:42 AM

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from the picture above, at the bottom of the klipsch it has long wide hole right... it is the slot port...

compare to the logitech z2300, which has round hole at the side.

well, vote doesnt mean anything though, it has to do with preference of voters... i remember when i vote its 0 for gmx. lol yes, as what others said, gmx is difficult to find... that's why some is desperate for it...

myself, if i can found new one for 400 i'll definitely buy it today, even right now. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Aug 16 2009, 10:42 AM)
from the picture above, at the bottom of the klipsch it has long wide hole right... it is the slot port...

compare to the logitech z2300, which has round hole at the side.

well, vote doesnt mean anything though, it has to do with preference of voters... i remember when i vote its 0 for gmx. lol yes, as what others said, gmx is difficult to find... that's why some is desperate for it...

myself, if i can found new one for 400 i'll definitely buy it today, even right now. laugh.gif
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ok..i know jor..thx ya..

well, i know..bro..the vote result just can be my part of reference only..i will try to get gmx n test it then i will decide to which to buy then..

nismo91, i got another question..my laptop and my desktop r using internal sound card..do the sound card will effect the speaker performance?
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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 16 2009, 12:06 PM)
ok..i know jor..thx ya..

well, i know..bro..the vote result just can be my part of reference only..i will try to get gmx n test it then i will decide to which to buy then..

nismo91, i got another question..my laptop and my desktop r using internal sound card..do the sound card will effect the speaker performance?
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well yes, soundcard is very important also, but i dont have fancy soundcard at the moment. used to plug in x-fi xtreme audio to my ifi and after my mobo breakdowns, im back to internal soundcard since the new mobo have blocked PCI slot from my graphic card fan.

anyway even from x-fi xtreme audio to onboard (realtek) there are noticable difference. the difference are not big if im using my old 2.1 speaker, but when using ifi many things are changed. in my case, i buy soundcard that cost about half of the speaker price.

just like for cars, i say speaker are the rims, and the soundcard are the tyres. they work together. in order to get good result, both must be good.

for your case, i recommend getting soundcard for the gmx or even z2300 or mx5021.
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Hmmm... What other gd SC that is compatible with Mac. Planning to upgrade from Asus Xonar U1 soon.
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Aug 16 2009, 01:15 PM)
well yes, soundcard is very important also, but i dont have fancy soundcard at the moment. used to plug in x-fi xtreme audio to my ifi and after my mobo breakdowns, im back to internal soundcard since the new mobo have blocked PCI slot from my graphic card fan.

anyway even from x-fi xtreme audio to onboard (realtek) there are noticable difference. the difference are not big if im using my old 2.1 speaker, but when using ifi many things are changed. in my case, i buy soundcard that cost about half of the speaker price.

just like for cars, i say speaker are the rims, and the soundcard are the tyres. they work together. in order to get good result, both must be good.

for your case, i recommend getting soundcard for the gmx or even z2300 or mx5021.
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omg.. doh.gif ..after buying those thing..i will be bankrupt soon.. cry.gif what is the different when u play music with sound card and without??can u share here?nismo91

in my case i think i better get a external sound card rather than internal..cause i m using laptop all the time..unlucky, laptop motherboard cant replace it..aiks...

QUOTE(chingwooi @ Aug 16 2009, 02:00 PM)
Hmmm... What other gd SC that is compatible with Mac. Planning to upgrade from Asus Xonar U1 soon.
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as i know, logitech is capable with mac..klipsch gmx and mx5021 i m nt sure..mayb u can ask the shop seller when u visit to any computer shop..
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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 16 2009, 06:04 PM)
omg.. doh.gif ..after buying those thing..i will be bankrupt soon.. cry.gif what is the different when u play music with sound card and without??can u share here?nismo91

in my case i think i better get a external sound card rather than internal..cause i m using laptop all the time..unlucky, laptop motherboard cant replace it..aiks...

as i know, logitech is capable with mac..klipsch gmx and mx5021 i m nt sure..mayb u can ask the shop seller when u visit to any computer shop..
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the difference for my case, x-fi xtreme audio, cheapest here, is that the sound will more more full. means the bass go deeper, the treble go sharper and the midbass go more wide. not that much though. depends on how good your SC is. my SC is a cheap one so its like that. but noticable enough.

im trying to sell my old pci xfi and get pcie x-fi so i can get better sound from my speakers at desktop.

for external card, not really much option. i rather onboard for laptop. im also using laptop now. because i dont like mess and i need the mobility of a laptop. so hooking up to a external is not so good. if u want, there are ExpressCard and USB soundcard.


anyway chingwooi means soundcard la, not speaker. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Aug 16 2009, 08:17 PM)
the difference for my case, x-fi xtreme audio, cheapest here, is that the sound will more more full. means the bass go deeper, the treble go sharper and the midbass go more wide. not that much though. depends on how good your SC is. my SC is a cheap one so its like that. but noticable enough.

im trying to sell my old pci xfi and get pcie x-fi so i can get better sound from my speakers at desktop.

for external card, not really much option. i rather onboard for laptop. im also using laptop now. because i dont like mess and i need the mobility of a laptop. so hooking up to a external is not so good. if u want, there are ExpressCard and USB soundcard.
anyway chingwooi means soundcard la, not speaker. laugh.gif
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oops.gif ..sorry..didt read baik baik for chingwooi msg..aiks..

ok..what about if the speaker play with ipod or tv???do u play with ipod or tv b4?there is no more sound card in ipod and mp3 right??will performs bad?
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QUOTE(-W- @ Aug 16 2009, 09:50 PM)
oops.gif ..sorry..didt read baik baik for chingwooi msg..aiks..

ok..what about if the speaker play with ipod or tv???do u play with ipod or tv b4?there is no more sound card in ipod and mp3 right??will performs bad?
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haha for any multimedia speakers, it will be okay to use with ipod i think... for my klispch ifi, well it is made for ipod, i just snug ipod at the dock and start listening. haha, no problem at all. tv i think also the same... tried before for a while... doesnt cause any harm i think.

mp3, it will be okay, they dont have soundcard, and they already performs bad.. if u want good sound, it doesnt start with mp3 player in the first place... at least it will be original CD playing in expensive CD player... much superior to compressed mp3.
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Aug 16 2009, 10:09 PM)
haha for any multimedia speakers, it will be okay to use with ipod i think... for my klispch ifi, well it is made for ipod, i just snug ipod at the dock and start listening. haha, no problem at all. tv i think also the same... tried before for a while... doesnt cause any harm i think.

mp3, it will be okay, they dont have soundcard, and they already performs bad.. if u want good sound, it doesnt start with mp3 player in the first place... at least it will be original CD playing in expensive CD player... much superior to compressed mp3.
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notworthy.gif haha..okok..thanks nismo91..u r so pro in speaker..during the thread here, i had learn a lot from u..r u just born in 1991??if yes then really notworthy.gif laugh.gif
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