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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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post Aug 13 2009, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Aug 13 2009, 11:05 AM)
I'm looking for a massive sell down to complete the correction, so far i see yesterday's volume lesser than Tuesday's volume which i think many of the ah mas still holding their stocks and not willing to let go despite the huge drop.

But judging from Shanghai intraday performance, i see another leg down. There's massive selling when China reaches positive territory, hinting maybe its previous support has now turned resistance.

Technical , and fundamental wise, capitulation will occur pretty soon. Panic selling is just a click away.
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So, am i right to say, the remaining weeks of this month isn't gonna reach 1189, which was the highest to date?
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 13 2009, 11:58 AM)
No.
Not at all.
My earlier post made it clear that I did not agree with the 'fair value' put on the counter by one research house of 6.xx.
You speakie da English?? laugh.gif
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DB, what's the interest rate for US FD savings?
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 13 2009, 12:03 PM)
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So close to 0% as to make no difference... blink.gif
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means Malaysia's FD saving has better interest than US'? blink.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Aug 13 2009, 08:25 PM)
Some of you were talking about RCECAP. I have also have this stock on my watch list. Recently I read that somebody (from CUEPACS?) was talking about letting their own organization handle the loans and salary deductions. I know the company mentioned was not RCECAP (I think it's ANGKASA), but if CUEPACS gets its way, will this affect RCECAP in the future?

Debbieyss, did you long today? Make good money? My big boss around today, so I couldn't monitor the market. Do you think this time KLCI will break 1,200?
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I thought today is a good day to short instead? brows.gif

But technically, it seems CI is going down... hmm.gif


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post Aug 13 2009, 10:32 PM

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nujikabane, warrant matter, ask chyaw sifu

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post Aug 13 2009, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Aug 13 2009, 10:45 PM)
hmmm, difficult to make judgment. need to wait for clearer signals from candles.
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so how is your Futures position now?
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post Aug 13 2009, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Aug 13 2009, 04:29 PM)
You said you are not discussing warrants here anymore, liar! LOL Jk tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 13 2009, 04:30 PM)
ok! I'll stop talking.
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Aug 13 2009, 10:38 PM)
Yup, he's the master of warrants, but even he is not answering me. tongue.gif
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Cos you asked him not to mention anymore gua...i think

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post Aug 13 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Aug 13 2009, 11:03 PM)
I haven't entered Futures for... about a week now, I think. Didn't see any clear signals to enter.
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For me, i'm now going for long term investment as I know the market is rising, just the matter how much it rises

Now holding 1166 which i bought on 3 Aug aka testing my holding power too

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post Aug 13 2009, 11:16 PM

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To those who are into warrant, hope this helps tongue.gif

http://zlbursatheme.blogspot.com/2009/08/f...f-overhead.html
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 13 2009, 11:16 PM)
You mean you LONG your futures, right? 1st time heard ppl saying long term investment on futures  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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if i go for long term investment for futures from April 09 till 31 July 09, i already earned RM15k (1 contract only)

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So, yes, there's long term investment in Futures
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 13 2009, 11:25 PM)
It is like saying....if I sai lang everything on one stocks from April to now, I already double or triple my capital already.
Futures are pure speculation.....the moment drop off cliff happens, then whatever you are holding (LONG) will worth nothing, whereas if you SHORT, sky is the limit for your loss
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Futures also got TA
so it isn't purely speculation
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 13 2009, 11:34 PM)
noobie question here how long futures can hold?  like share? extra charges?

btw, when 7th month Ghost festival start??
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Futures can be hold for 1 month, despite how many days the month has.

Different brokerage has different charges

Hong Leong = RM38 per buy sell

OSK = RM50 per buy sell
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 13 2009, 11:35 PM)
Well, I dunno how it works out. Maybe you can ask debbie. Could be you still need to pay the difference index points from your contract point
Heard before like what margin call etc....

Added on August 13, 2009, 11:36 pm
TA = speculation
FA = investment

Right?
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Shares also got TA.
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 13 2009, 11:42 PM)
auto sell after one month huh ? pay the different no matter you lose or win? thank you debbie.
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you can choose to auto sell at the last working day of the month. For HLE, charge is lower, but I forgot how much.

QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 13 2009, 11:42 PM)
Yup. TA is for speculation. You won't be seeing people investing using TA method, although it do helps in giving us the guidelines on the entry price
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Well, i ask you: have you ever checked out the historical chart of the shares before you buy? The historical highest and lowest price of the share? The reasons it fell? I'm sure you did. All these are TA.

TA is for speculation, no doubt, but with speculation, at least you know the favaour of the shares, without speculation, that would be total zero knowledge and understanding.

Invest with feeling is true speculation instead, my 1 cent, no offence please wink.gif

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post Aug 14 2009, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 14 2009, 12:07 AM)
Investing is also speculating what will happens in the futures with some baseline(our capital) whereas "Investing" in Futures is sort of gamble. I never say speculation is bad or good.

If you ask whether I checked historical chart for highest/lowest - Yes. For guidelines for my entry points, just in case the stock could be at the peak. But just as guidelines, because if I think the stocks still worth it, I will still go ahead to buy. (Case for Digi when it was at RM8 and consider very "high").
Fundamental analysis is performed on historical and present data, but with the goal of making financial forecasts.
Reason - Yes. This is FA
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All shares are going up and down according to the trend. Currently, we are having "rising up" trend, shares are moving up. Futures is just buying or selling the average indexes; when the stocks are rising up, Futures rise, vice versa
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post Aug 14 2009, 11:26 AM

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many new sifus sharing at this thread.... then i can learn how to be richer already...


by the way, going to trade stocks market next month.. yeah~!
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post Aug 14 2009, 11:42 AM

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CI turning red

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post Aug 14 2009, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 14 2009, 11:43 AM)
Since you play futures, what is our outlook on the next few weeks?
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going up.
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post Aug 14 2009, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 14 2009, 12:08 PM)
Nice to see your mood is turning for the better , while the market is going south.
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the market is now at south, but the trend is going north

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 14 2009, 12:21 PM)
Say What???  blink.gif
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I'm saying the entire global economic isn't going to recover by 2012.
However, the trend is rising up, it will clash/profit taking but the trend is moving up.
The worst is over, even if it clashes, it won't fall untill 800 point.

QUOTE(aurora97 @ Aug 14 2009, 12:24 PM)
i hope it seriously crashes for once... one last crash for last minute bargains before the new yr comes..
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Hopefully it will happen by end of this year
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