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post May 17 2016, 10:29 PM

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I have very bad experience with blu-Ray players. My first Philips BDP3200 broken only after 1 year, it was not even used frequently. Then my second bluray player Samsung BD-F5500K after about one year cannot read most 3D movie disk doh.gif doh.gif So far I dare not buy another bluray player as my brother also have similar bad experience with his bluray player, they just doesn't seem to last cry.gif What's your experience with your existing players?
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post May 18 2016, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(senoqc @ May 17 2016, 11:46 PM)
Mine also play less than 20 Blu Ray disc already kaput.
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I feel your pain..... doh.gif moneyflies.gif

QUOTE(sonerin @ May 18 2016, 06:55 AM)
Buy OPPO
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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 18 2016, 09:22 AM)
LOL..

Sammy n Philips.. why am l not surprised..
My Oppos [ I hv bd80 ; 105 n an ol hd981 dvdp ] all still running great..
I hv a pioneer 450 [ which is not tat ol ] still running
N a really ol pioneer dvdp oso running..

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So, only OPPO brand bluray has better reliability? To me, DVD players doesn't seem to broke so easily, perhaps some sensitivity issue but bluray player outright ridiculous doh.gif
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post May 18 2016, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 18 2016, 10:48 AM)
Pioneer as well but of course the price is also 3x more than those BD players you mention
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How about those Cinavia free bluray player commonly sold in Msia? There's the BOE brand and another unbranded 4in1 player commonly found on lelong.com? Then there's that HongKong Video brand which is also cinavia free......
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post May 18 2016, 11:27 AM

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post May 18 2016, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 18 2016, 01:02 PM)
You pay for what you get
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Seems like digital movie collection is the way to go. No broken player or broken disc, also more compatibility for future equipment, just need the online streaming box or video media player or just a smart tv. hmm.gif
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post May 18 2016, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ May 18 2016, 01:47 PM)
i think send to 3rd party technician , give the player a chance first .. if its happen again then buy a new one
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Better also ask how much they charge for inspection and what they may quote for replacement part...... last time my Philips bluray bring back to service centre the technician said the circuit board malfunction and the replacement cost is almost same as a new player doh.gif End up wasted inspection fee some more (no longer under warranty, one month after warranty expired)
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post May 19 2016, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(Xccess @ May 18 2016, 09:58 PM)
Bought a Pioneer BDP180 player for my new unit, then kena this Cinavia error, drove me crazy. mad.gif  mad.gif  While browsing some *ahem* movies in a shop, saw this BOE Cinavia free player over the counter, bought from them at RM420.00 (Non 3D version), with 3D will cost additional RM100.00.

Set it up once I reached home and happily watching all my movies without hiccups. devil.gif  devil.gif  devil.gif
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Cinavia is actually not that big a concern as most movie does not contain cinavia except the few movies produced by Sony. The "presumably" better compatibility with ahem disk is those brand-less player's main appeal. However it's worth mentioning that you get what you pay for with those ahem disk, they are mostly low quality disk that will not last long, a year or so later you may notice "holes" appearing on the disk. Nowadays my desire for HD entertainment comes from Axtro HD channel and occasionally online download, I'm fed up with those cheap disk and the hassle and frustration to "change disk"..... shakehead.gif From the days from VCD, DVD till today's Bluray disk, the lesson I learnt is that it's pointless to collect movies as they all eventually become junk compared to the ever progressing "higher definition". 4k? 8k....... Never ending...... Just my 2 cents whistling.gif

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post May 19 2016, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ May 19 2016, 09:23 PM)
Yup...I have ditched (stopped buying) my DVD/CD/BR collection 4 years ago...

Now I'm not sure what to do with those CDs...I have more than 1500 movies! sigh
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Wow, you must have spent a fortune, or a small fortune also If they are ahem disc.....
If you have ahem disc, maybe a lot of them already filled with countless holes and become unplayable..... That's what happened to many of my previous collection doh.gif
I love how in the west nowadays the buyer also obtain right to digital copy on the cloud, meaning you can view those movie on any internet connected device (and future devices ) drool.gif If only Bolehland can move forward where everyone no longer earn peanuts and cannot afford genuine copyrighted goods whistling.gif nobody wants ahem if they can afford good quality goods.

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post May 20 2016, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ May 19 2016, 10:48 PM)
lol if its ahem...I would have thrown without thinking  cry.gif

Most of it was bought in US
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Now that the cloud movie collection has started in the West, it would be even better if the service provider actually provide an option to upgrade your movie from previous resolution to later version (remastered, 4k, 8k and so on) for a small fee. Such sales model would be better than people buying a medium (bluray etc) and stuck with the same technology/resolution and having to folk out extra money just to buy the same movie again when better/higher resolution version become available in the future. But then again the cheapest way to enjoy movie legally nowadays is to simply subscribe to services like Netflix and Iflix biggrin.gif
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post May 20 2016, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ May 20 2016, 10:03 AM)
wow...thats a out of box thinking...good thoughts!  rclxms.gif

I even have VHS collections...lol those are book sets....and the good thing about US sets, they have this fungal and anti stick coating, so pretty much it last forever

The same goes to CDs and DVDs, they quality compared to there and our are totally different. some of my VHS picture quality are better than the DVD sold here...sigh
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You still have a working VHS player? laugh.gif It must be a high end machine for it to last for decades..... biggrin.gif The last of its kind.
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post May 20 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ May 20 2016, 10:45 AM)
lol...anything thats not local seem to last...I know its unfair generic statement...unfortunately in general all my equipment bought overseas seem to going on  and on at times I wanted it to fail so I could get a new thing....like my microwave...its been with me for about 16yrs now...sigh...just dont want to die...lol
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The presumption is quite true I guess, at least for older goods that is truly produced by the West and not imported from Japan/China/Taiwan. Those items from the West are built to last, whilst the current generation items are built to be replaced with short life cycle of 2/3 years. Smartphone typically starts to malfunction by the 2nd year even if you take good care of it. We used to be surprised looking at functional electircals being throw out in Japan but decades later the rest of the world is doing the same when new technology keeps coming out with newer gadgets that made old gadgets redundant. It's not very environmentally friendly but that's what keep the economy flowing I gues.... doh.gif
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post May 20 2016, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Dickong @ May 20 2016, 11:04 AM)
Just curious whether my 2014 uhd curve tv  compatible with the 4k blu ray player.tq
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If your TV can support hdmi2.0 it should be compatible I guess. 2014 model still quite up to date.... thumbsup.gif
Edit: Apparently hdmi 1.4 can also do 4k, so even if your 4k player has hdmi 2.0, they're always backward compatible.

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post May 20 2016, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 20 2016, 01:34 PM)
Sorry..

I beg to differ..
But if ur VHS tapes hv better vdo than ur dvds , than there must be sumting wrong wif ur dvds or player.. its two different genres of equipmnt.. besides tapes run magnetic meaning there is a slight loss of quality every time u play it as there is contact, discs on the other hand nvr touch anyting so in theory it lasts forever..

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If I'm not mistaken I believe there were some types of higher definition VHS tapes that can store higher quality video.
To me VHS definitely beats VCD, I believe he meant some of his VHS collection has video quality that come close to DVD.
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post May 20 2016, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 20 2016, 02:09 PM)
S VHS which was de last n superior tape format is 400 lines [De biasa one is only 240.. ]

DVD can be 480P

BD is 1080P ..

All tings being equal, the numbers tell all....

Of cos .. here in bolehland, l believe a pirated DVD can hv inferior quality compared to an original VHS tape la..

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Actually the number of lines/resolution for VHS is merely an estimate/approximation.
VHS is an analog format, not digital format. In digital format we have definite value represented in 1 and 0. In analog there is no such thing as how many pixels or lines to make up an image, the further you zoom in, the more blurry the image becomes but never pixelated, but in the digital form, the further you zoom in, the more pixelated the picture becomes, you just see the matrix of dots/pixel making up the picture, there is no such matrix format in analog signal. The jagged edge effect is the result of digital format, an analog image will not have such artifact.
Of course with the advancement of storage technology, we are able to shrink those jagged edges when we further push up the resolution of an image.
You may count each step in the following graph as the resolution, but can you count the step (resolution) for the analog line where there is actually no step?
You need to know how reliable the numbers are before assuming the numbers do tell all.
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