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gregy
post Sep 6 2009, 01:20 AM

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This is great news man tongue.gif But does it mean if we want to run ATI and NV on the same board we'd have to install both NV and Catalyst drivers?


QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 6 2009, 01:04 AM)
MSI P55 The Big Bang - Lucid Hydra Inside - ATI Work With nVidia???

During the last week we have seen many new P55 based motherboards, among them the new line of MSI , and today , IOPANEL.NET gives you an exclusive look at the "Hidden" member of MSI product line - The Big Bang, which is a P55 motherboard with Lucid Hydra chip - which should enable the operation of NVIDIA and ATI based video cards on the same motherboard.

Who Is Lucid ?

Lucid is an israeli company, located at Kfar-Neter, which is developing the Hydra Chip, which is a Chip that should enable the use of NVIDIA and ATI video cards on the same motherboard.the company holds some cooperation agreements with some of the biggest players in hardware industry, and the motherboard that we preview today is one of the first products of this cooperations.

The Lucid Hydra chip, as mentioned before should enable the use of 2 different video cards together on the same motherboard. We have been told in the past that there will be different versions of the chip - one will enable the usage of video cards like HD4870 along with a HD4650 for example , another version will enable the usage of NVIDIA based video cards together - like a GTX260 together with 9600GT for example, and of course one version will enable a mix of video cards -ATI video card together with a Nvidia video card on the same motherboard. The Hydra chip is responsible for the Balance and link between the different
video cards.

The Big Bang -

MSI P55 "The Big Bang" is a P55 based motherboard, which hosts the Lucid Hydra chip that will replace the nf200 chip. As you can see in our photos, the Hydra Chip is located between the CPU socket and the first/Upper PCI-Express Slot. As for now we can't tell which one of the versions of the Hydra is placed on the motherboard, and how it performs, but a source inside one of the companies told us that the Hydra Chip is working as planned.

ATI + nVidia possible ???  hmm.gif

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post Sep 6 2009, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Sep 6 2009, 01:59 AM)
I'd think  Nvidia + Ati would work, since it's integration at the hardware level. But the price for the motherboard is rather mind boggling
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You mean to say that I could choose either driver for the matchup? Interesting smile.gif
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post Sep 7 2009, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(NeRzhUl @ Sep 7 2009, 09:57 AM)
Based on the RRP, the Core i7 860 SHOULD be the same price as the Core i7 920, but you know, new product and stuff.
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Overall it'll still be slightly cheaper to build an i7 860 system compared to an i7 920 cos of the mobo and ram costs.
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post Sep 8 2009, 01:14 PM

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Whichever socket is cheap, good and powerful enough with many products and brands to choose from will prevail smile.gif
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post Sep 9 2009, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(fr0sti3 @ Sep 9 2009, 12:08 AM)
benchmarks are out @ techpowerup.com

looks like gaming performance is not a big leap, only like 2-5 fps diff with i7 & Phenom II
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You need to take a look at this article by the gurus at Guru3D smile.gif

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-mult...mance-review/20

The way to really work that i7 processor is with high end multi-GPU setups, anything less will just mean the bottleneck is at the cards.....
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post Sep 10 2009, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(NgYanFei @ Sep 10 2009, 04:00 PM)
I can see that i7 860 is much better than the i7 920 but most of the forumers here prefer i7 920 more than i7 860...I want to know why...
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If you check some of the posts here in LYN and other places, you'll see that the i7 920 clocks very well due to it not being tied to an on-die PCIe controller, so the LGA1366 platform will probably outperform the best LGA1156 in the hands of a good overclocker. That's what I gather la, so far.

But then, as 1156 matures, coupled with the faster access times of dual channel DDR3, applications that matter most to consumers may favor the 1156 more than 1366.

There are a few sites that tested the i7 920 for games, and the conclusion is that unless you're running GTX260 SLI or above, the bottleneck is at the GPUs. It takes tri-SLI and CrossFireX to really stretch those Nehalems.

On apps that don't have hyperthreading code, you may even find that the i5 750 is about as fast as the higher end procs due to similar clock speeds and only 2 or 4 cores utilised.

So unless you do a whole lot of photoshopping or video rendering/encoding, the i7 860 or i5 750 would be more than enough for most ppl. Don't forget also that 1156 uses less power than 1366 smile.gif
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post Sep 10 2009, 06:07 PM

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If for gaming only, it looks as though i5 is good enough for now. Depends also on what GC or GCs you're planning to use..... If you're the type who likes to upgrade often, then i5 for now, then when i7 860s launches the overclocking potential may improve due to lower TDP, so can upgrade then. If you buy i7 860 now, then early next year when i7 860s comes out you will bang bola smile.gif But, if you don't plan to oc then you can go ahead and get the 860 now, since the 860s will come with a slightly lower default clock speed.

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post Sep 14 2009, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 14 2009, 05:27 AM)
it's original i think.. just that they sell it earlier.. breaking the agreement..
so could be no warranty then..
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Well, if those retailers are responsible enough, they'd bring forward the selling date on the receipt to after the official date smile.gif
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Sep 14 2009, 10:15 PM)
I'm now struggling whether i should buy i7 or i5, as Microsoft announced that I9 will be available in the LGA-1366 platform, which maybe a very good upgrades against any I7 current processor. Somemore the Triple Channel RAM is kinda attracting.  icon_question.gif
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Well I guess you have to ask yourself, what do you need to do that requires more than 4 cores and 8 threads smile.gif Running a server perhaps?

 

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