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 AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund

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post Dec 30 2010, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 30 2010, 05:43 PM)
I know how to read the financial report, even if the income is from trading or capital gain, if the same counters are held & traded similarly no matter the fund is small or big, the % returns should be the same. The dividend calculation is an example of a % gain is similar no matter the fund is big or small.  rolleyes.gif
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Agreed, we have been highlighted abt the fund size does not matter, porfolio is the one that matter, but i dont think Dan understand or refuse to understand.
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post Dec 30 2010, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(_dan @ Dec 30 2010, 07:42 PM)
and for your information ASB, AS1M, ASW2020 is fixed-priced fund!
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Thanks for reminding me the funds that u mentioned are fixed priced fund. I never know abt it b4 u mentioned it. rclxms.gif
and FYI, i did not talk abt politic here, and i am not racist either, and FYI i have maxed up my ASB account (yes ASB, u do not hear it wrong).
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post Dec 31 2010, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Dec 31 2010, 10:46 AM)
I somehow feel all the bad-mouthing for PNB has their origin in jealousy,hearsay, speculation rather than facts. I checked the credentials of their management - they are all very qualified people. IN government and PNB I trust. Oh yea, for those of you who think so badly of PNB, just withdraw all your units la and let other people buy ok?
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I am definatley not the jeoulos, and hearsay ppl that u mentioned, if u see my earlier post, all my findings are based on the facts and statistics from ASNB's annual report.

What i have highlighted was that if ASB is proven the best managed fund by PNB, as a rational investment company, they shd maximize the fund return for their investors for other funds, so if ASB formula is proven to be the best, the fund manager shd try to consider to copy the similar porfolio for other funds.

For AS1M return, we can claim that it is new, so 50% less return compared to ASB is "acceptable". But then ASW has been launched since 1996 (15 years ago), and the return is still consistantly 35% lower than ASB. This is worth for us to think!! As investors who invest in the same nature of funds with fixed priced, and similar portfolio such as ASB vs ASW, we can accept the return variance/difference of 5-10%, but not the difference of 35%-50%.

Once again, i want to emphasize that i am not saying this because i am jeolous, i have both ASB and ASW.
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post Jan 5 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Nepo @ Jan 5 2011, 03:21 PM)
Just curious, why so many ASB account holders like to withdraw after dividend being credited ?
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to spend it, also some taking asb loan, so take out the dividend to serve monthly instalments.
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post Feb 12 2011, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 9 2011, 03:34 PM)
Are u sure? Ive heard some posts saying some are available
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ASM, ASW (both bumi and non bumi), ASD are fully sold out.
But i have heard a Chinese friend able to accumulate RM1mil in his ASW2020 account in 6 months time, on "try and error" basis. Some agent bank helps him to do it. So it is all depends on luck.
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post Feb 13 2011, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Feb 13 2011, 02:40 AM)
i thought max per person is only 200k? wink.gif
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max limit only applies to ASB, other funds of ASNB no max limit
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post Feb 13 2011, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(ch_leong @ Feb 13 2011, 01:07 PM)

There is a limit during sale period. The limit will be lifted once they desperately wanted to sell all fund available.
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which particular fund r u talking about? Except for ASB other fund has no individual limit subject to fund availabilty. It is confirmed by the fund prospectus.

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post Feb 13 2011, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 13 2011, 08:45 PM)
I'm a chinese....confirm no other ASx funds that I can put my money into?
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as already mentioned 1000000000000000000000000000000000 times.
chinese quota is fully subscribed, but u can try and error with any ASNB agents.

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post Feb 14 2011, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Feb 13 2011, 11:38 PM)
Until the government increase the fund size for ASW2020, ASM or AS1M, i guess FD in commercial bank is your only choice for the time being.
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heard from a top management that very unlikely for PNB to increase the fund size of ASW2020, ASD, ASM, as the non chinese portion of AS1M still have plenty.
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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 14 2011, 09:09 AM)
damn sad la. if the bumi's not using their quota they should open it up right?
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then u need to study why there is a formation of PNB , it is formed to help bumiputera to invest initially, and eventually open to other races.... If all unsold units open to all races it will defeat the ideology and formation of PNB.

Like what other says, try to look other opportunity, can't invest in asnb funds is not the end of the world.
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post Feb 17 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Feb 17 2011, 02:09 PM)
I think half of your total post counts are answering those type of quetions LOL
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yeah loh....so many newbies want spoon fed info without checking at the www.asnb.com.my or refer to the earlier posts, keep on asking the same questions..and reduce the quality of the forum...


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post Feb 18 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Feb 18 2011, 09:32 AM)
why don't we just put on on the first page of this thread of essentials/ latest updates of PNB funds? That way it will be easy for newcomers to read.

sharing is caring
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You think the newbies will read from the 1st page and stop asking the info that already repeated for 100000 times???
sharing new info is caring, sharing a repeated info (like where to buy ASB, chinese quota is full kind of) is waste of time.
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QUOTE(prempenang @ Feb 18 2011, 10:30 AM)
wta : i go to cimb to apply As1m.... just need ic rite?
then can i issue the cash cheque (same cimb branch) to pay the purchase?

how to write cash cheque? just cash? and sign the same place?
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1st u need to ask the counter staff abt the availability of the fund, i do not know ur race so cant comment abt the availability.
yes u can issue the cash cheque put "CASH" in the payee column, and sign the cross in the front and also at the back of the cheque
you can also write your name in the payee colume if you r the account owner.
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post Feb 18 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(prempenang @ Feb 18 2011, 11:26 AM)
aiyoyoyo

sure or not?
can anyone confirm this?
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still got....but think running low...
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post Feb 18 2011, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Feb 18 2011, 01:55 PM)
actually sometime u still can top in but have to pay duit kopi. Normally my mum top up 10-20k but then have to give Rm100 as duit kopi. But last month my mother tried to top up, they say cannot. Dont know why.
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not encourage to invest in this way, AS1M fund is not everything, u can invest in some low risk bond funds that offer the similar return as AS1M/ASW.
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post Feb 18 2011, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(prempenang @ Feb 18 2011, 03:23 PM)
i dont know how to invest in other funds
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go to http://my.morningstat.com

if u r low risk investor u can opt for bond funds, from the website u can run the fund performance ranking.
If u r into Public Mutual Funds u can go to buy from Public Bank / PM agents.
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QUOTE(mois @ Feb 18 2011, 03:26 PM)
Im already investing in equity in public mutual.  smile.gif . Bond fund like public mutual wont generate money if market is on downturn. ASW2020 still can even there is downturn.
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disagree, when the market crash in 2008, bond fund is doing very good especially Public Mutual fixed income/bond fund series. You will hardly see bond fund go below the par value. If u study the prospectus of the bond funds the bond holding are basically a government backed companies, such as PLUS, SYABAS, Jimmah, RHB Bank/CIMB Bank Bond Funds.....these companies are pretty strong and i would say their business are ression prove.

ASW2020 is good but no longer available for chinese investors, thus i am suggesting other alternatives.

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post Feb 19 2011, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Feb 19 2011, 04:06 PM)
When will AS1M declare the dividend and bonus?
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check the asnb website and then u will know
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QUOTE(chicken_vampire @ Feb 20 2011, 08:28 PM)
anybody know when is the announcement of ASM releaseing units to non bumi? guess I missed the last year announcements.. sad.gif
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ASM is fully sold even for bumi quota.
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post Feb 23 2011, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(ycyip @ Feb 23 2011, 09:01 AM)
hi all,

My questions are about the amanah saham's variable priced funds (VPF) like asn3, asg-pendidikan and fixed priced fund (FPF) like ASB, AS1M

1) what is the difference between buying the FPF and VPF? (other than the nature of the price itself)
(In terms of Return, FPF only pays dividend, VPF pay dividend + capital gain or loss)
2) what determines the fluctuations of the VPF?
(ASNB's VPF invest in stocks, so the stock fluctuation affects the VPF's fund price)
3) who do we sell back our units to if we dont wish to invest anymore? ASNB?
(sell back to ASNB, the features of the UT is that when u r ready to sell, the UT company is ready to buy at the based on NAV)
4) for VPF, if we sell cheaper than buying price we stand to make a lost?
(yes, capital gain/loss is based on the selling price minus buying price+ 5% sales commission)

5) for VPF, 5% sales charge is imposed on each units, means even before we start we already lost 5%?
(basically, have to wait one year for the dividend payout to cover this lost?)
( you can say that, every RM1000 u invest, only RM950 goes into your investment, RM50 is ASNB's income)

6) does this mean buying FPF is better than VPF ? (dont have to worry about price dropping)
(depends on what u means by "better", if what u means by better is less volatile, i would say yes. High risk high return rules apply on all sort of investment, for FPF the dividend is in the range of 6-9% for the last 20 years, FPF dividend is lower but can have better capital gain)
7) for VPF, dividend will be paid FULL regardless when the units are bought, for example, fund A pays dividend of 5.5sen in March and units were bought on Feb, these units will still get the full dividend of 5.5sen? (this was told to me by ASNB people via phone)
(for VPF price, as long as u hold the fund b4 the dividend payout month u will entitle for the dividend, but after the dividend declared the fund price will be re-adjusted so it will ended up the same thing)

all advise/answers are greatly appreciated, thank you!
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