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TSuneek
post Aug 4 2009, 04:32 PM, updated 17y ago

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Greetings everybody. I am not sure if this has ever been brought up before but I would like some general views and and opinions regarding Yamaha and Marantz AVRs. I decided to start a new topic so that hopefully I could get some unbiased views as well.

Basically I am going to be making an AVR purchase in the near future and have basically setttled on 2 models. The Yamaha RV-1900 and the Marantz SR6003. Both seem to have received great reviews. I know that the 1900 seems a little more feature packed with a higher price tag while the Marantz appears to be more musical which is an important factor in my decision. Hopefully existing owners of the above as well as others will be able to shed more light on these two units.

Thanks in Advance.

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post Aug 4 2009, 05:01 PM

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Marantz made in china.Yamaha made in Mal.It is depends with your both ears upon your liking taste as well.Each of them give you different SQ.Marantz sr6003 was been given great review hence features more as well but Yamaha more pricey.You may go for both audition,same speaker setup for both then from here you will decide.
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post Aug 4 2009, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(choontoy @ Aug 4 2009, 05:01 PM)
Marantz made in china.Yamaha made in Mal.
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and ur point is...?
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post Aug 4 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 4 2009, 05:40 PM)
and ur point is...?
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post Aug 4 2009, 05:47 PM

hmm...
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post Aug 4 2009, 05:49 PM

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RX-V1900 has 4 HDMI inputs while SR6003 has 3 only
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post Aug 4 2009, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(WereWolf84 @ Aug 4 2009, 05:49 PM)
RX-V1900 has 4 HDMI inputs while SR6003 has 3 only
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3 HDMI inputs is enough for me. The marantz however has 2 hdmi outputs which might be
more useful.

The fact that marantz is made in china won't dissuade me because I have owned marantz stuff before and their quality has not been a let down so far. In fact I am sort of leaning more toward the 6003 but just want to make sure that I don't end up regretting because this avr is the first step of my ht upgrade and will need to last as well as be able to accomodate future upgrades which both seem to me more than capable of doing.

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post Aug 4 2009, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 4 2009, 05:40 PM)
and ur point is...?
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post Aug 4 2009, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 4 2009, 06:55 PM)
yammy more expensive lor?  hmm.gif  laugh.gif
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Well yes it appears that way depending on the model in question. I was however hoping more along the lines of build, sq, features, useability etc.
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post Aug 4 2009, 10:04 PM

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how about sky dragon ? tongue.gif

if u watch movie... better go for it smile.gif
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QUOTE(uneek @ Aug 4 2009, 09:57 PM)
Well yes it appears that way depending on the model in question. I was however hoping more along the lines of build, sq, features, useability etc.
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if there was a clear line of superiority.. then every one would be lining up to have it.. but seems like many has their own preference shared evenly at entry to mid level AVRs like, denon, onkyo, yammy, marantz, pioneer... take your pick.. smile.gif
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post Aug 4 2009, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(uneek @ Aug 4 2009, 04:32 PM)
Greetings everybody. I am not sure if this has ever been brought up before but I would like some general views and and opinions regarding Yamaha and Marantz AVRs. I decided to start a new topic so that hopefully I could get some unbiased views as well.

Basically I am going to be making an AVR purchase in the near future and have basically setttled on 2 models. The Yamaha RV-1900 and the Marantz SR6003. Both seem to have received great reviews. I know that the 1900 seems a little more feature packed with a higher price tag while the Marantz appears to be more musical which is an important factor in my decision. Hopefully existing owners of the above as well as others will be able to shed more light on these two units.

Thanks in Advance.
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Let me try a different approach. Any process of elimination that you went through before narrowing it down to these two specific brands and models?

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post Aug 4 2009, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 4 2009, 05:40 PM)
and ur point is...?
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post Aug 4 2009, 11:59 PM

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u can't go wrong with either. yammy has a lot of dsp which i never use. i only use movie mode or pure direct. it got good bass, more dynamically sounded especially with sound effect but it also suffer with wattage drop when all channels fully utilized.

marantz makes in-movie music sounded very good. a little bit lame on the bass but the wattage only drop a bit when all channel used.

i never seriously listen to 1900 but i do like 1800 very much. i go with marantz bcoz its much cheaper and being a yammy user before, i just wanna try something different. never regret the purchase.

just go a&l and audition both. pick what ur hearing like smile.gif
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post Aug 5 2009, 07:51 AM

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one advantage the Yamaha avr has over the Marantz is the bluetooth compatibility.....btw, is it higher wattage = stronger bass?
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QUOTE(choontoy @ Aug 4 2009, 11:45 PM)
my answer same as azbro rclxms.gif
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post Aug 5 2009, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Aug 4 2009, 11:09 PM)
Let me try a different approach.  Any process of elimination that you went through before narrowing it down to these two specific brands and models?
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Of all the brands within this range, the Yamaha and the Marantz both gave convincing 2 CH audio performance. The others were good but not to my liking. Music is very important to me and I cannot afford to be having two separate systems for music and av. I must say however I found the Marantz to be better with music compared to the Yamaha. The RV-1900 has a higher power rating than the SR6003 and with the 24bit Burr Brown DACs the music was sweet. Somehow though the Marantz was still more musical.

Having said all that however, the RV-1900 did have more features and yes the bass was stronger which I love but living in an intermediate terrace with wife, child and not so big hall, the extra power and bass is a bit redundant BUT its always nice to know you have it should you need it in the future. So really I am trying to get the best of both worlds (music and surround) which is a tall order in this price band I know but I believe either one of these AVRs will suffice. Its just that I can't decide which one will be equally good in bed as well as the kitchen.
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post Aug 5 2009, 12:01 PM

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Last time I don't listen to TUNER in my previous avr..and now I enjoy a lot when I got the Marantz..TUNER kinda like CD quality...u can test it to believe it !
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post Aug 5 2009, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(uneek @ Aug 5 2009, 11:03 AM)
Of all the brands within this range, the Yamaha and the Marantz both gave convincing 2 CH audio performance. The others were good but not to my liking. Music is very important to me and I cannot afford to be having two separate systems for music and av. I must say however I found the Marantz to be better with music compared to the Yamaha. The RV-1900 has a higher power rating than the SR6003 and with the 24bit Burr Brown DACs the music was sweet. Somehow though the Marantz was still more musical.

Having said all that however, the RV-1900 did have more features and yes the bass was stronger which I love but living in an intermediate terrace with wife, child and not so big hall, the extra power and bass is a bit redundant BUT its always nice to know you have it should you need it in the future. So really I am trying to get the best of both worlds (music and surround) which is a tall order in this price band I know but I believe either one of these AVRs will suffice. Its just that I can't decide which one will be equally good in bed as well as the kitchen.
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If music is very important for you then you should consider at stereo valve amp.Depends which range of tubes that you would prefer to and yr taste.300B tube are good for vocal and u can get for used set while KT88 tubes are punchy.EL34 also can consider as this tube are common easly to get hence EL34 tubes not expensive.
Just an advice.
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post Aug 5 2009, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(uneek @ Aug 5 2009, 11:03 AM)
Of all the brands within this range, the Yamaha and the Marantz both gave convincing 2 CH audio performance. The others were good but not to my liking. Music is very important to me and I cannot afford to be having two separate systems for music and av. I must say however I found the Marantz to be better with music compared to the Yamaha. The RV-1900 has a higher power rating than the SR6003 and with the 24bit Burr Brown DACs the music was sweet. Somehow though the Marantz was still more musical.

Having said all that however, the RV-1900 did have more features and yes the bass was stronger which I love but living in an intermediate terrace with wife, child and not so big hall, the extra power and bass is a bit redundant BUT its always nice to know you have it should you need it in the future. So really I am trying to get the best of both worlds (music and surround) which is a tall order in this price band I know but I believe either one of these AVRs will suffice.
Ahh.. then I think you have answered your own question. The 6003 is what I would recommend you then. Power isn't everything, especially when it comes to music, unless you feng tau type. Then again, the 6003 is not too shabby either, and its great for movies too. Bear in mind the AVR is just a halfway journey to sonic heaven, choosing the appropriate speakers makes it complete. Good luck smile.gif

QUOTE(uneek @ Aug 5 2009, 11:03 AM)
Its just that I can't decide which one will be equally good in bed as well as the kitchen.
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QUOTE(choontoy @ Aug 5 2009, 12:14 PM)
If music is very important for you then you should consider at stereo valve amp.Depends which range of tubes that you would prefer to and yr taste.300B tube are good for vocal and u can get for used set while KT88 tubes are punchy.EL34 also can consider as this tube are common easly to get hence EL34 tubes not expensive.
Just an advice.
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Indeed music is very important. Sadly however, I do not have the space or the budget for a separate stereo amp. I know what you mean about the tubes. I have heard what Audio Research have done but I can only dream at this point.
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QUOTE(uneek @ Aug 5 2009, 12:42 PM)
Indeed music is very important. Sadly however, I do not have the space or the budget for a separate stereo amp. I know what you mean about the tubes. I have heard what Audio Research have done but I can only dream at this point.
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i am an ardent Yammy fan, have tried sky dragon but jump back to yammy

but this case ( not bias ok) i go for the yammy which supports more features
Y.... Just choose any 2 reasons enuf liao

~1900 support USB playback,
Firmware upgradable thru USB and Networl ( that hopefully can make your AVR more future proof) who knows maybe the next upgrade can support FLAC playback on USB

~more DSP if bored by ori DTS HD and True HD can always switch to others

~ support Additional Front Presence Speakers
(w/o sacrificing the SL&SR channels) This is what Onkyo and denon Newer Generation is launching the so called Pro Logic IIz ~~ or height Speakers

~3D surround

~Top Class Anchor Bay chip, optimised upscaling HDMI out

sorry another Reason not feature (most important), 1900 has (i should say 90%) of 3900 minus the extra Bluetooth/DLNA support and network features.
Its basically share the same circuitry as 3900 at ....
so you get affordable $$$ for 3900 qualities

Its the same as 2809 and 3808

Happy audition... biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 5 2009, 02:13 PM)
i am an ardent Yammy fan, have tried sky dragon but jump back to yammy

but this case ( not bias ok) i go for the yammy which supports more features
Y.... Just choose any 2 reasons enuf liao

~1900 support USB playback,
Firmware upgradable thru USB and Networl ( that hopefully can make your AVR more future proof) who knows maybe the next upgrade can support FLAC playback on USB

~more DSP if bored by ori DTS HD and True HD can always switch to others

~ support Additional Front Presence Speakers
(w/o sacrificing the SL&SR channels) This is what Onkyo and denon Newer Generation is launching the so called Pro Logic IIz ~~ or height Speakers

~3D surround

~Top Class Anchor Bay chip, optimised upscaling HDMI out

sorry another Reason not feature (most important), 1900 has (i should say 90%) of 3900 minus the extra Bluetooth/DLNA support and network features.
Its basically share the same circuitry as 3900 at ....
so you get affordable $$$ for 3900 qualities

Its the same as 2809 and 3808

Happy audition... biggrin.gif
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All very good reasons to get the 1900. I know for sure that the 1900 costs more than the 6003. Still scouting around but so far the lowest I have for the 1900 is 4.6K (which I know is not the lowest) and 3.5K for the 6003 (which I am still waiting for confirmation). Anyone know where I can get better prices than these?
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I ask A&L Amcorp and they quote me 4.1k for 1900. No stock for 6003 but should be around 3.3k
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QUOTE(uneek @ Aug 5 2009, 03:49 PM)
All very good reasons to get the 1900. I know for sure that the 1900 costs more than the 6003. Still scouting around but so far the lowest I have for the 1900 is 4.6K (which I know is not the lowest) and 3.5K for the 6003 (which I am still waiting for confirmation). Anyone know where I can get better prices than these?
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I got quoted recently Yammy 1900 at rm4.3k in A shop,while B shop quoted me Denon 3808 at 4.5k,while C shop quoted me Denon 2809 at rm4.3k.
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QUOTE(choontoy @ Aug 5 2009, 09:22 PM)
I got quoted recently Yammy 1900 at rm4.3k in A shop,while B shop quoted me Denon 3808 at 4.5k,while C shop quoted me Denon 2809 at rm4.3k.
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QUOTE(uneek @ Aug 5 2009, 03:49 PM)
All very good reasons to get the 1900. I know for sure that the 1900 costs more than the 6003. Still scouting around but so far the lowest I have for the 1900 is 4.6K (which I know is not the lowest) and 3.5K for the 6003 (which I am still waiting for confirmation). Anyone know where I can get better prices than these?
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lai lai lai i can offer my SR-6003 below 3.3k~~~! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(cmw_kwl_6923 @ Aug 6 2009, 09:33 AM)
Bro , i think you mesti~~~~~~ rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  biggrin.gif


Added on August 6, 2009, 9:35 am
lai lai lai i can offer my SR-6003 below 3.3k~~~! tongue.gif
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Uhh...wanna sell off yr Marantz then getting which brand liao ?
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post Aug 6 2009, 10:56 AM

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If he really interested, i will let go~~~!

i think he would like to have virgin one~~~! ada bunyi punya ~~~! ' pop '~~~~! tongue.gif rclxm9.gif

any recommended from you~~~~? thumbup.gif

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post Aug 6 2009, 12:27 PM

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i think he would like to have virgin one~~~! ada bunyi punya ~~~! ' pop '~~~~! tongue.gif  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 6 2009, 12:27 PM)
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Well, after a more detailed comparison, I would have to say that between the two, the Marantz 6003 is still tops for 2 ch SQ but the 1900 is better overall hence the higher price tag because you really do get more. However, it seems Marantz will be launching the 6004 soon and it looks as though the price will be around the same as the 1900 while being more competitive to the 1900 at the same time. Might wait for that one to be released instead. Anyone know when it will be out??
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QUOTE(uneek @ Aug 6 2009, 04:12 PM)
Well, after a more detailed comparison, I would have to say that between the two, the Marantz 6003 is still tops for 2 ch SQ but the 1900 is better overall hence the higher price tag because you really do get more. However, it seems Marantz will be launching the 6004 soon and it looks as though the price will be around the same as the 1900 while being more competitive to the 1900 at the same time. Might wait for that one to be released instead. Anyone know when it will be out??
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No idea, as long as i know bishop also waiting Sr-6004~~~! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cmw_kwl_6923 @ Aug 6 2009, 04:48 PM)
No idea, as long as i know bishop also waiting Sr-6004~~~! rclxms.gif
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How about RX-V1900 vs SR6004? which one offer more features and value for money?
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QUOTE(WereWolf84 @ Aug 10 2009, 08:10 AM)
How about RX-V1900 vs SR6004? which one offer more features and value for money?
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We will have to wait and see how the SR6004 will perform. Based on the performance of the 6003 it looks very promising. As for value for money, it depends heavily on what you percieve as valuable to you. The 1900 certainly has many more features while the Marantz places a strong emphasis on sound quality. So see which one means the most to you.

 

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