Don mix with hpw, because it's oil.. end up the oil will float on the hpw..and they wont eat too...

You can try coat with mealies.. A bit would do...

@Jolene, is their instinct..to climb high high ...then jump down..

No prob.. Keep us updated ya... see whether the lump got moving or not...

Hhaha...for me, there is no 100% glider proof room lo..u still nid to supervise when playing...

We don hav any party here, and we r not siding any one thought. But we do hav preference here. Anyway, as we discussed previously, none of us going to talk bout this issue until more information release from the authority. But, now u r the one who quote it again.

Of course you nid to feed everyday. Is daily supplement.

Check and see ur glider wieght, i don think is overweight. If i'm not mistaken ur glider is abit skinny as u told me last time.

A lot people tot their glider is obese / overfat when they switch to proper diet, but in fact that is the correct track and size of them. Many people favors small/tiny size and claim they are cute, but actually ur glider is suffering from malnutrition.

Do post a pic here and we discuss further from that.

It takes time... And it's only a month... long way to go~~ keep it up ya~

Depend what kind of treats u feed ah... some low quality treats contains excessive preservatives.

totally agree.
Some glider is more defensive than others, it takes longer time to bond with them. Jus put in more effort + patience + time, i am sure u can do it..

Hi. Yup, when they stop crabbing, that means they are accepting u gradually. From time to time, you will see improvement. It might be small improvement, but that is what keep motivates us to do better and better.

Regarding the issue, as i mentioned b4, lets stop discussing here and wait for the update. Jus ensure all of us doing things that protect our glider and at the same time protect ourselves too.

Most likely it's wild glider.

If is captive glider, 300 for a pair is way too low. Even those mass breeder don offer this price.

There are still differences between wild and captive glider. You can tame it, but they might not be able to bond with you. You can ask SCC~ She is familiar with wild glider...

Whether it's wild or captive glider, you still hav to give them proper diet and housing if u decided to keep them. Don get them jus because it's cheap.

There is no albino/mosaic/leucistic glider in malaysia market. Only white tip, and it's rare too.

If you really wan, u can import from overseas. I'm not sure bout the procedure, but it may cost u a big bomb. Prepare at least few thousand for it. The glider itself may cost u thousands + shipment fee (mayb another few k).. Don forget the stress that encounter by the glider during shipping.

A lot people said wan to bring in b4, but none of them actually did it..

Those are color mutated glider... you cant breed out easily.

Huh, u got from home breeder or wat? If home breeder, the joey not suppose to bite because the seller should play with it often. If you get from petshop, then some of them may bite because those shopkeeper seldom interact with the glider.

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Added on September 10, 2009, 12:44 amSometime, they like doesnt mean is good for them. Apple is not my first choice in my fruit list. You hav to make sure she ate other fruit as well..If she only eat apple, then stop giving apple first. Dont give her the chance to pick what she like to eat.. You as the owner hav to make sure she eat what is nutritious not what they like to eat..

Jus like human kids, they loves McD KFC and junk food, but are u going to let them eat all these as their main diet?

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You just got her? Give her some time, keep doing all the bonding methods and she will be fine.

When i first got my Micky last time from Hun aka crazymouse, he bite me everyday until bleed.. T-T Thought of exchange too last time because really hard to handle as newbie.. But after given some time and effort, now he is fine already.

Is not only the urge to mate... u can keep a pair of intact male... glider is social animal, they nid companionship, attachment and sort of... Even after you neuter the male, and lets say he is in a small cage with the same toys everyday, eventually he will get bored too...

From my point of view, i always believe human companionship will never replace their own species. It jus like i get a orang utan/dinasour to be your fren..and apart from that, you got no one else in ur live~ Glider and human use different verbal & non verbal language, different anatomy, different way of thinking and a lot more~~

I'm not saying you must keep a pair of glider. What i wan to deliver is, keeping a single glider for a long period of time will causes some impact on the glider. Either the extreme negative - stress, self mutilate, aggresiveness ... or mild effect - non-friendly to other glider, defect mental development...

offering a lot toys and playtime is one of the method to reduce their boredom and decrease the impact to the lowest.

Remember, glider in wild spent most of their lifetime in group. It's truth we can never imitate glider natural living setting in captived glider, esp in Malaysia. From diet to habitat, what we giving our glider is totaly different from those in wild. But, at least we try to fit as much as possible. That is why we will hav HPW diet, BML diet that provides nutritional needed by them.. That is why we suggest at least 3ft or bigger cage to be used.. And in this issue, that is why we suggest to keep glider in pair~

@SCC & Lori, lately i met a lot glider owner who saw their glider having coprophagia symdrome too.. Most likely is because of malnutrition and improper living condition. Some is because the food ingested doesnt digest properly, so they eat the feces. Lori, SCC is right. Coprophagia is jus one of the symptom is earlier stage, it will lead to other disease and problem if left unresolved.

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Added on September 11, 2009, 12:30 pm@Cacarot, nice glider you hav~~~ Friendly reminder, don use flash on glider ya.....

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Aiks...frankly... actually 3ft is not really sufficient for glider, or i should say there is no cage that sufficient for them~~ If you compare to what they hav in wild~~

BUT, since they are now captived pets, we would hav to make some adjustment~~ It's impossible to provide them a big forest or few miles of land to roam right?

3feet is minimum size, because it's tall enought for the glider to jump (i would not say glider, because my glider will bang the cage when they glide), and you are able to put in a proper size of wheel to support their high exercise level.

If you are using 3ft, you will notice not much toys you can put inside the cage, esp those who are using wodent wheel. It's jus way too small for you to decorate the cage... For 3ft cage, the things most likely are fixed~ You can only use few selected toys and you cant change the decorations often.. And that may lead to boredom..

For those who use 4ft, 4.5ft, 5ft or bigger DIY cage, you hav a lot of things to do with the cage layout~~ Different way of putting those hammock, big tunnel, 2-3 wodent wheel, ballpit, hanging toys and a lot more~~ Besides that, you can always change the food bowl spot for your glider to hunt for the food and treats~ This provide them more exercise opportunity and life stimulation~

updated.

Welcome~

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Added on September 11, 2009, 5:36 pmis it male or female?

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okie...

Do post some of the Blanket's pic here~~ And share more bout her life~~

i jus use the medicine box, then hide mealies inside.. they will go open themselves to eat... make them to use their brain..i posted the pic b4..

My glider will stick to me when go outside or place that they are not familiar..but... when inside my room, they jus happily go around..

my glider will jump back to me la...because last time i always trained them by putt them up high at curtain, then let them glide back to me..

I poke small holes using needles on the box, so they can smell the mealies.

I have seen the reply on previous discussion on the use of camera flash for sugar glider.

I would strongly recommend every owner DO NOT use flash direct towards your glider eyes. If you r using SLR, then point the flash towards other direction but not ur glider's eyes.. If you r using normal compact digital camera, capture ur glider picture during daytime or in a bright room.

Yes, it's truth. Using flash occasionally doesnt hurt ur glider much. But we don encourage people to do it and make it as a habit. Using flash frequently or exposing their eyes to sunlight may cause retina problem.

Look at our glider, they hav a big protruding round eyes. And they are nocturnal.. they are so used to darkness..

Why we would wan to do something that may hurt their little eyes?

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Added on September 14, 2009, 9:45 amLeaving them alone doesnt help in bonding at all. If you rely too much on pouch, they will develop overly pouch protective behavior.

Do what you are doing now, take them out and play as much as u can... this is the time that u make connection with ur glider, give them opportunity to get to know u..and give urself a chance to know them more too~

Biting is really really normal for frightened sugar glider. Even a bonded glider, when they get frighten they will bite too!! It's jus their instinct... Don misunderstood that bonded glider will not crab will not bite... when we mention bonded glider, which means the strong attachment between the person and the glider.. If you do something wrong or make them uneasy, they will still nibble u to complaim... If you out of sudden did something really freak ur glider out, they will crab and bite~~ Even they are bonded glider...

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Constipation..did she drink enough water? Hv u feed any heaty food? How old is she?

Erm...one bottle of honey should use up for one batch of HPW diet.

Hehe...usually i jus bought 2 or 3 bottles one shot..

4month oop.. check the water level of ur water bottle..see whether he drink or not~~

Could be the weather recently too... Last few months my gliders hav constipation too because the weather is too too hot. That's why, everyone, carry a water bottle with you when bring ur glider out~~

Yes. Manuka and rewa2 honey.

haha..i'm sure micky is one of ur most timid joey..

If u still unsure, then read more bout it only decide..

Is very easy for newbie to grab the glider home n keep... but the hardest part is u hv to sustain the passion for the next 10-15 years... Glider 'looks' cute, but wen u keep for some time, u will realise there are bad character underneath them too..

So, for those who bought the glider just bcoz of their 'cuteness', they will realize they no longer tat 'cute' after sometime..

You can get starter kit from petshack.. they hav few..some are basic, some are luxurious.

The most most most basic glider stuff included cage, pouch, diet, water bottle, bedding can cost you around 200 over...

Proper glider age to be separated is 2months OOP... Since you r asking this ques, i guess you haven read up the info bout glider yet.

Get 1 first, bond with it... then only go for second wan.. easier and better for unexperienced owner.

If you really wanna take up the challenge, then pls take ur initiative and study more. Remember, it's not only a 'challenge', your decision affects a live.