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TSjchong
post Aug 1 2009, 05:02 PM, updated 17y ago

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Thanks to moomoos I was able to loan 6 units of the Telos speaker caps from C&O to try out at home. I got interested in them after reading moomoos opinion here.

The caps are well machined and gold plated. The base material is copper.

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What you do is insert them into a spare pair of speaker posts (in case your speaker has 4 posts and you're only using 2), like so:

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I asked for 6 units so that I can cover my fronts and center. Well, I can say that the difference is immediately noticeable. No need for break in whatsoever. With the caps on the background is noticeably quieter. It's like the noise floor has dropped and it's blacker. You can hear subtle sounds better and images were more focused.

However, it was not all good news because the whole sound character became darker. Some of the shimmery highs and air were lost. My wife (who I also roped in to listen) described it as more muted. Pulling out all the caps restored the liveliness to the music. But I did miss the quieter background.

So what to do? I then tried a compromise, just plug the fronts and don't cover the center. For the moment this combination seems acceptable to me. I get a quieter background, without loosing too much of the highs. The quietness is very appealing actually. For example when watching an episode of Lost, one of those scenes in the jungle at night with just 2 people talking - the quietness does allow the speech and some of the subtle jungle noises to be more distinct. Voices are also more focused and warmer.

If I were to relate it to pictures, it would be like turning up the contrast and decreasing a bit of the brightness. Anyway, I'll listen and play around with them a bit more before deciding.

This post has been edited by jchong: Aug 1 2009, 05:06 PM
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post Aug 1 2009, 05:24 PM

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Yep,i intend to try out 1st the rca cap when my Denon avr-3808 arrives.
TSjchong
post Aug 1 2009, 05:29 PM

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Are you getting the Cardas or Telos RCA caps?

I'm using the Cardas RCA caps on my AVR now.
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post Aug 1 2009, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 1 2009, 05:29 PM)
Are you getting the Cardas or Telos RCA caps?

I'm using the Cardas RCA caps on my AVR now.
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Not sure yet which one to get.
moomoos
post Aug 1 2009, 06:21 PM

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wou.... Bro jchong...
you're welcome. smile.gif

your write up very familar la....
Its like the sort of stuff we get in BD and hifi magazines review.

bravo, get ready, you'll are enrolled in Head-Hunters list
Haha biggrin.gif
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post Aug 1 2009, 06:22 PM

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This is interesting. My speakers are all bi-wired (with bananas) so I can't use the caps, but I'm curious about the RCA caps. Where & how can I get these? How much?
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post Aug 1 2009, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 1 2009, 06:22 PM)
This is interesting. My speakers are all bi-wired (with bananas) so I can't use the caps, but I'm curious about the RCA caps. Where & how can I get these? How much?
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from C&O ipoh,
list price RM130/box of 10pcs (RCA gold caps)

i got the caps, and ireally dont know how much, they bundle and ask me pay a sum,haha

dont worry will not be expensive.
i heard they sold some 10k+ of those stuffs during the fair.
they demo, and customers just buy

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arremie
post Aug 1 2009, 07:10 PM

hmm...
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Cardas cap at A&L is RM6 per piece. I'm getting some also soon.
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post Aug 1 2009, 09:00 PM

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Bro, u plug at the audio side only, how about the video side? Wah~~~! Need to buy a lot leh~~~! blush.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Aug 1 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(cmw_kwl_6923 @ Aug 1 2009, 09:00 PM)
Bro, u plug at the audio side only, how about the video side? Wah~~~! Need to buy a lot leh~~~!  blush.gif sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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not necessary, you plug all is good
if your room is acoustically good,you dont neeed that many,
just tweat a bit will do
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post Aug 1 2009, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 1 2009, 05:29 PM)
Are you getting the Cardas or Telos RCA caps?

I'm using the Cardas RCA caps on my AVR now.
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According to a fellow member whom I met today, the cardas sounds 'dead' compared to Telos on his system. Ended up with Telos.
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post Aug 1 2009, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 1 2009, 10:27 PM)
According to a fellow member whom I met today, the cardas sounds 'dead' compared to Telos on his system. Ended up with Telos.
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finally someone is making sense, and its true,
well its kinda "cheap" oh....i wouldnt say that, its affordable, so you can buy both to compare biggrin.gif
arremie
post Aug 1 2009, 10:53 PM

hmm...
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 1 2009, 10:27 PM)
According to a fellow member whom I met today, the cardas sounds 'dead' compared to Telos on his system. Ended up with Telos.
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Can't comment on this but Telos sure looks much better than the plain looking Cardas. Where to find Telos in Klang Valley?
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post Aug 1 2009, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 1 2009, 10:53 PM)
Can't comment on this but Telos sure looks much better than the plain looking Cardas. Where to find Telos in Klang Valley?
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arrange with C&O to be Master Dealer
Maybe can ask them to courier ...

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post Aug 1 2009, 11:51 PM

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if the gold speaker cap make it like "mute" try the telos platinum speaker cap. sometime its try and error as diferrent system different requirement. also try the rca cap together with the speaker cap. also one thing to mention, when trying out the telos gigs like caps and cable. a piece of advise is "back to the basic" in which take out all the other tweaking giggs you have in your system then add telos giggs one by one. you willl definitely see a vast improvement interm of sound.






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post Aug 2 2009, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 1 2009, 06:22 PM)
This is interesting. My speakers are all bi-wired (with bananas) so I can't use the caps, but I'm curious about the RCA caps. Where & how can I get these? How much?
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ean soong 0195710383. rm110 per 10-piece pack (gold rca caps) during avshow. Platinum was ~ double price.
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post Aug 2 2009, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(putih @ Aug 2 2009, 12:14 AM)
ean soong 0195710383. rm110 per 10-piece pack (gold rca caps) during avshow. Platinum was ~ double price.
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for Telos wan izzit?
TSjchong
post Aug 2 2009, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 1 2009, 10:27 PM)
According to a fellow member whom I met today, the cardas sounds 'dead' compared to Telos on his system. Ended up with Telos.
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Hmm... maybe need to try the Telos RCA caps next smile.gif

However, on my system the Cardas caps did restore some liveliness. hmm.gif


Added on August 2, 2009, 7:43 am
QUOTE(NPO @ Aug 1 2009, 11:51 PM)
if the gold speaker cap make it like "mute" try the telos platinum speaker cap. sometime its try and error as diferrent system different requirement. also try the rca cap together with the speaker cap. also one thing to mention, when trying out the telos gigs like caps and cable. a piece of advise is "back to the basic" in which take out all the other tweaking giggs you have in your system then add telos giggs one by one. you willl definitely see a vast improvement interm of sound.
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Ok, maybe it's time to try the Telos Platinum speaker caps next too... However, I'm not sure I'm prepared to pay ~350 for them. I suppose no harm in trying first. If they are really that good then might be worthwhile.

I am back to basics, don't have any other tweaks apart from the RCA caps and speaker caps.

This post has been edited by jchong: Aug 2 2009, 07:43 AM
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post Aug 2 2009, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(putih @ Aug 2 2009, 12:14 AM)
ean soong 0195710383. rm110 per 10-piece pack (gold rca caps) during avshow. Platinum was ~ double price.
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Thanks bro, this is the Telos?

Will need to get 2 packs I guess, at a glance there could be 2 dozen RCA inputs on my receiver. sweat.gif
arremie
post Aug 3 2009, 12:20 AM

hmm...
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When we say input.....does it includes preamp input and video input? Or is it just audio input including coaxial.

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