at half price of the KURO, it's very very good
Panasonic V series review by HD Guru
New Panny V-series Plasma to beat KURO?, The best ever Panny Plasma yet
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Jul 30 2009, 12:15 PM, updated 17y ago
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When will this be available in M'sia???
at half price of the KURO, it's very very good Panasonic V series review by HD Guru |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:29 PM
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you buy la and dispose your kuro cheap cheap for me..
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Jul 30 2009, 12:32 PM
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Nice....panny very aggressive with new models nowadays. Buy today 2 months later already obsolete
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Jul 30 2009, 12:35 PM
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no need get too excited la. their panny and our panny different class.........maybe v series here are stripped down version. just like the s series. in other country s series comes with neopdp panel.
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Jul 30 2009, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(xrossf1re @ Jul 30 2009, 12:35 PM) no need get too excited la. their panny and our panny different class.........maybe v series here are stripped down version. just like the s series. in other country s series comes with neopdp panel. I think all S series worldwide is not Neopdp. It is the G and above that is Neo PDP screens. |
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Jul 30 2009, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jul 30 2009, 01:27 PM) you're wrong.... it is NeoPDPhttp://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electro...000000000005702 |
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Jul 30 2009, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jul 30 2009, 12:15 PM) When will this be available in M'sia??? I have seen the numbers of the calibrated V series. Its correct that it is the best Panny yet. Few things to note, it still cannot render accurate HD709 colour. In the THX mode Magenta is off, on the other modes Green is off. THX gets the primaries spot on but not the secondaries. The part that is sad is that the black levels are actually only slightly better than the Sammy B850/860. So I believe with the Kuro now dead, Panny will eventually trump the Kuro (maybe in 2011). The bet is on Sammy to get there 1st.at half price of the KURO, it's very very good Panasonic V series review by HD Guru mpyw, the black levels are just about close to the 50" 8G Kuro, it struggles with SD programming. His comments of black crush on the Kuro is inaccurate and have been debated before. I believe it will be close to RM13-15k when it arrives in our shores, very close to the KRP500. Now if they sell the 54/50in at RM10k then it becomes good price, but I doubt it will reach that price in Malaysia. It is one rank lower than their upcoming Z series. |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:01 PM
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If their 65" selling for RM15k
I'll move my 50" upstairs and use my 40" Sony as computer monitor |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:26 PM
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HD Guru keeps refering to G10 series when comparing V10...it seems G10 is also quite a good TV...
when news where on the net that Panny US will release S, G, V & Z as their new plasma range, Panny M'sia confirmed they won't release V & Z series here in M'sia..so now how? will they bring it in? at recently concluded KLIAV, panny's brochures did show the full range, but i suspect the brochure is from US..they just reprinted it here without removing the V& Z series... is that the case or are they really bringing the V & Z series in? even at RM13k its still cheaper than the 50PY850 when it was released...i think it's worth buying if Kuro is not an option |
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Jul 30 2009, 02:56 PM
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for me the sammy B850/60 50'' or 58'' should be fine if the selling price here is at RM6,500 and RM10,000 .
the MSRP in US is US$ 3,200 for B860 58'' in May . Hope samsung malaysia could make this model available here by end of the year. the panny V series is good though , hopefully they bring this one in . by the look of the G series pricing , it would surely be very expensive |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Jul 30 2009, 02:26 PM) HD Guru keeps refering to G10 series when comparing V10...it seems G10 is also quite a good TV... The one main problem with the X10 and S10 were the inaccurate primary and secondary colours. There is way to fix this in the user or service menu. Apparently, the G series has THX (this corrects all the primaries and secondaries except Magenta) that is more accurate. The other main problem with the Panny is the gamma is S shaped. This would mean you either see "pop" or lose shadow details or vice versa. The g series is supposed to have a more accurate gamma.when news where on the net that Panny US will release S, G, V & Z as their new plasma range, Panny M'sia confirmed they won't release V & Z series here in M'sia..so now how? will they bring it in? at recently concluded KLIAV, panny's brochures did show the full range, but i suspect the brochure is from US..they just reprinted it here without removing the V& Z series... is that the case or are they really bringing the V & Z series in? even at RM13k its still cheaper than the 50PY850 when it was released...i think it's worth buying if Kuro is not an option The V series (in the US at least and it does not look like the UK has this option) has more features that allows more accurate calibration. I think they will bring in the V but I think it will be pretty steep going by the G prices on the 42in. I believe Malaysian G version do not have the THX mode as well. So this makes it lose its primary appeal. |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(xrossf1re @ Jul 30 2009, 12:35 PM) no need get too excited la. their panny and our panny different class.........maybe v series here are stripped down version. just like the s series. in other country s series comes with neopdp panel. not just plasma, other things also, we get 3rd world stuff. I bought Nokia from UK 8 years ago, Made in Finland. Until now, works fine. The Nokia phones here are all from China. |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Jul 30 2009, 03:06 PM) not just plasma, other things also, we get 3rd world stuff. I bought Nokia from UK 8 years ago, Made in Finland. Until now, works fine. The Nokia phones here are all from China. i believe these days...most things are made in China...even my new iPhone 3GS also made in China...saw a thread in AVS forum..this dude using a Pioneer BDP320 BD player - made in Malaysia oh, btw, many moons ago, whilst studyin in UK, i bot a yamaha AVR...guess what, made in Malaysia |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Jul 30 2009, 03:42 PM) My friend bought a Canon SLR in Japan, wanna show off when get back to Malaysia....haha..made in Malaysia..we had a nice laugh...but I also kena same thing while buying a Sony MP3 player in UK.. |
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Jul 30 2009, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Jul 30 2009, 03:42 PM) i believe these days...most things are made in China...even my new iPhone 3GS also made in China...saw a thread in AVS forum..this dude using a Pioneer BDP320 BD player - made in Malaysia Both Onkyo and Yamaha are made in Malaysia. Not only for export, but local retail is also from here (black Yamaha receivers only for export though).oh, btw, many moons ago, whilst studyin in UK, i bot a yamaha AVR...guess what, made in Malaysia I believe many other electronics are made here too, but sad thing is they're only for export, what we get here are all from China. Yeah, my iPhone 3G and PS3 definitely made in China. I believe my speakers and players as well. But my Panny plasma is made in Japan. |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:14 PM
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My TV - Made in Japan
My Receiver - Made in Singapore My PS3 - Made in China My Speakers - Made in Canada and Made in USA My remote control - Made in Korea Myself - Made in Penang |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jul 30 2009, 03:02 PM) The one main problem with the X10 and S10 were the inaccurate primary and secondary colours. There is way to fix this in the user or service menu. Apparently, the G series has THX (this corrects all the primaries and secondaries except Magenta) that is more accurate. The other main problem with the Panny is the gamma is S shaped. This would mean you either see "pop" or lose shadow details or vice versa. The g series is supposed to have a more accurate gamma. Can this problem be solved by performing the calibration?The V series (in the US at least and it does not look like the UK has this option) has more features that allows more accurate calibration. I think they will bring in the V but I think it will be pretty steep going by the G prices on the 42in. I believe Malaysian G version do not have the THX mode as well. So this makes it lose its primary appeal. The one main problem with the X10 and S10 were the inaccurate primary and secondary colours. There is way to fix this in the user or service menu. Below are the test results for S10 and B650. Looks like the Samsung is a better unit. Panasonic P50S10k Samsung PS50B650 TEST RESULT SCORE RESULT SCORE Before color temp (20/80) 6299/6558 Good 6664/6673 Good After color temp N/A N/A N/A 6442/6449 Good Before grayscale variation 70.8 Good 145 Good After grayscale variation N/A N/A 101 Average Color of red (x/y) 0.6642/0.329 Average 0.646/0.329 Good Color of green 0.2578/0.6653 Poor 0.296/0.605 Good Color of blue 0.1486/0.0573 Good 0.149/0.06 Good Overscan 0.00% Good 0.00% Good Defeatable edge enhancement Y Good Y Good 480i 2:3 pull-down, 24 fps Pass Good Pass Good 1080i video resolution Pass Good Pass Good 1080i film resolution Fail Poor Pass Good |
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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Jul 30 2009, 05:31 PM) Can this problem be solved by performing the calibration? The Panny can be calibrated for grayscale in the service menu...The Panny is expected not be too good in colour reproduction. The Sammy has a 3D CMS. Also as I explained before the Panny does not do so well with interlaced sources. The greyscale will be "good" after calibration. Colour not much can be done since there are no controls.Below are the test results for S10 and B650. Looks like the Samsung is a better unit. Panasonic P50S10k Samsung PS50B650 TEST RESULT SCORE RESULT SCORE Before color temp (20/80) 6299/6558 Good 6664/6673 Good After color temp N/A N/A N/A 6442/6449 Good Before grayscale variation 70.8 Good 145 Good After grayscale variation N/A N/A 101 Average Color of red (x/y) 0.6642/0.329 Average 0.646/0.329 Good Color of green 0.2578/0.6653 Poor 0.296/0.605 Good Color of blue 0.1486/0.0573 Good 0.149/0.06 Good Overscan 0.00% Good 0.00% Good Defeatable edge enhancement Y Good Y Good 480i 2:3 pull-down, 24 fps Pass Good Pass Good 1080i video resolution Pass Good Pass Good 1080i film resolution Fail Poor Pass Good |
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