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 Stock Market V36: Return of the Bull, Part IV, Bull defies Newton's Law of Gravity

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SKY 1809
post Aug 3 2009, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 3 2009, 10:12 AM)
why Bursa always change this and that?

Those systems don't eliminate problems.
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I have nothing more to say if Bursa stays green forever. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on August 3, 2009, 10:28 am
QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Aug 3 2009, 10:24 AM)
Small retracement is healthy, my newsletter will be out at around 12. Stay tuned
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Hi Adam,

Do you entertain if I were to open an account with you just to buy one small lot. brows.gif

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post Aug 3 2009, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(kroegand @ Aug 3 2009, 10:37 AM)
wow market falls 10 points after i went for a teh tarik. Q for zelan and equine and both matched  blink.gif  blink.gif

hope it'll rebound back  flex.gif  flex.gif


Added on August 3, 2009, 10:39 am

err i'm a man and he did entertain me except i'm the one who can't make my mind whether want to go for futures or not till today  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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You sounded like a woman. brows.gif
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QUOTE(kroegand @ Aug 3 2009, 10:48 AM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif 

that's a refreshing view of myself  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Your market fair price would go up accordingly. thumbup.gif

NTA remains the same.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Aug 3 2009, 11:04 AM)
fkli and fcpo really geng chow
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I thought the experts were shorting the futures kau kau on 31st July afternoon and today morning ?

What happened now ? Mind to share ?
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 3 2009, 11:15 AM)
Mine installed but I have to reset the whole customization. If some1 knows where is the file located, I can copy CAB from my home laptop over my office desktop..
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Maybe can install program into Pendrive and run ?

Or else Buy a portable 7" Asus for RM 600 may solve your problem.

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 3 2009, 11:27 AM)
Many ppl still can't trade as they have problem with the cab installation...  laugh.gif
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I am with another broker ( running on Java ) , never heard of such thing before.

Maybank's system kinda outdated ?

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 3 2009, 11:34 AM)
I beg to differ. CAB Based run faster and have more options . Plus easy to navigate.

Java based sucks but the wonder is you can run it anywhere.

No offence, but I tried CIMB (Java) vs Hong Leong (Cab)
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Why need to run so fast if the market is so slow ?

I am just simple minded.

I just want to be the BOSS of my computers.

You guys are working hard for your computers. They are your bosses.

No offence plse.

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 3 2009, 11:41 AM)
no offence.  notworthy.gif

We are kuli to our own PCs coz it belongs to the COMPANY and its LOCKED, not opened, for security reasons.
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Oh IC i understand better now.

Thanks for sharing.
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 3 2009, 11:42 AM)
"The cheque is in the mail......" laugh.gif


Added on August 3, 2009, 11:44 am
Suggest you dump Windows and everything to do with Microsoft and move to Ubuntu (Linux)  nod.gif
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Can the Linux be used for trade ?

I am the kind of people that like to learn one time, and use for whole life. And I have couple of PCs to play with.

Lazy to re learn again and again, whether LInux or not would not have any impact on market either.


Added on August 3, 2009, 11:52 am
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 3 2009, 11:49 AM)
I'm using my company's laptop and all personal mailboxes are blocked.

If company blocks my brokerage website, I think I will find no way to trade anymore

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Easy mah, just buy a STORM will do, all paid for by future.

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Aug 3 2009, 11:57 AM)
anyone catch the volume traded on the CI?

37mil shares done. value 223mil.
watching a black screen is more fun! mad.gif
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My system shows 350m volume, what platform are you using, Linux ?

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QUOTE(protonw @ Aug 3 2009, 12:04 PM)
Agreed with you.  I use TA Java, the screen is so boring and very limited information. Maybe I didnt explore as I am using Maybank 2u to trade.  TA is backup for me to view price only. LOL  thumbup.gif
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Sound like you have made lot of money from using 2U. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 3 2009, 12:13 PM)
every traders here have something for me to learn from, and i definitely would like to listen to diverse thoughts not just futures but the entire stock market.

of course i would be glad to hear from you brokers to share for more insights, but i will trade on my own decision

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Sounds like Najib. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Aug 3 2009, 12:54 PM)
Fair enough. Well, im still learning as well, so novice advise is what i can offer at this rate.

Dei, of course trade is at your discretion. We are bind to the rules and regulation, which could inflict 'awesome' punishments if we are to enter your orders at our discretion.

brb lunch..
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Don'T you think Future is a good tool to hedge against future bull ?

It could be better tool to invest ( buy long ) than to "trade ".

Just my view only. I have not even started yet.




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QUOTE(peinsama @ Aug 3 2009, 02:18 PM)
To be honest, i'd yet to see or heard any people doing such strategy, but in books or theories, its advisable to do so.

If im not mistaken, if the underlying index is bullish which could imply that the acquisition would be more expensive for purchase, futures is used to cover the extra cost. I'm still questioning and wondering, whether this strategy is consider a hedging.

True, from my observation this far, many actually prefer to keep their long position rather than completing a trade. Just like last month contract, there are clients hold their long position since 103- level or more and closed their transaction with the settlement price at the end of the month of July, which is of course more than 100 ticks of profit.

I see. No worries, you got ample of time to decide to play futures.
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Thanks for your advice.

Well, I just thinking if a new trader like me running in and out all the times ( future ) , the chances of getting caught are very high.

Why not I just buy on dip and keep the future contract for a longer duration since we are yet to call the market , bull run.

Take profit only when it is necessary, without having to predict whether the market would be up or down the next day.


I try to do it , my own way, no theory book to support. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Aug 3 2009, 02:34 PM)
My thoughts...

Don't normally see small time retail speculators hold overnight, most speculators would opt for intraday...

must be really careful when institutional clients rollover their positions at the end of the month, price may flactuate rapidly.
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One lot is not too high a risk to try.

It could be rewarding too.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Aug 3 2009, 02:41 PM)
well again my 2cts, just put a stop loss trigger...

in case one of those unforseen circumstances do happen... keep ur eyes and ears peeeled at all times for trouble.

trade with caution.

Gd luck
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I know someone lost over 200K in one week. All conditions and timing looked bullish to invest except 9/11 happened.

A true story.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Aug 3 2009, 02:42 PM)
You are right, any swing, provided that FKLi is moving in tandem with the market, it will cause substantial losses. Regarding the speculating and hedging, im not sure which is fit, but for futures traders or players, most of them are speculating and yes, including cutting their losses.
True. Too early to call it a bull run, in my opinion. Most of the futures players in my company play according to the system given to them. For example, signal given by Grand Pine.

Yes, take profit but just be extra cautious if the market moves against your original position.

Yeah, eventually you would prefer your own techniques and strategies since you have your own financial planning. Books are for us to pass the examinations laugh.gif
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I believe in a Chinese Saying :-

If you are too much involved in anything , the frequency of it , you become blinded.

Staying away at the sideline, you have a better vision.

That is sometimes called long term investing. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Aug 3 2009, 02:53 PM)
And long term planning too  thumbup.gif
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WE are here to share our views.

No one is right all the times.

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 3 2009, 02:49 PM)
ok wat.

First BURSA KLCI change to 30 major selected counters. Market up up up never wanna STOP.

So, introduce small tick to "CORRECT" this.

I see this as a healthy thing.
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The ticks are effective way to prevent stocks from over pricing until the economy improves.

Otherwise we are just like CHina trading at PE of over 60 times ( 2 years ago ).

Look at the bright side.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Aug 3 2009, 03:06 PM)
Adam u stil taking in retail clients  brows.gif , i am tempted to take advantage (or be taken advantage of  sweat.gif ) of the futures market also.

Will contact u (if ur still acepting retail clients) once i get approval from co-conspirators.
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Friend,,

How come you are one step AHEAD of me now ?

You advise me to think twice ?

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