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 Stock Market V36: Return of the Bull, Part IV, Bull defies Newton's Law of Gravity

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danmooncake
post Aug 7 2009, 08:47 PM

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US DJ futures and Europe turning green..

Job Loss data came in "less bad". doh.gif

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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Aug 7 2009, 08:52 PM)
US futures very green indeed..

Oil also up > US72
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They got 15 million unemployed and Wall Street is celebrating.
The hang over will come in later. shakehead.gif
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post Aug 7 2009, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 7 2009, 11:15 PM)
This is a false dawn, a suckers's rally, a dead-cat bounce, a bull-trap....
Call it what you want  - but we are still ALL DOOMED....DOOMED.....DOOMED
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Definitely AGREE! This rally is a BIG HUGE BULL TRAP!

Those idiots will lose their money. Just you wait. Come next month, they'll realize... huh..
where are those consumers? Oh...btw they're all layoff, no jobs..no money to buy anything.

BAM! Down we go. tongue.gif


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post Aug 7 2009, 11:32 PM

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The energy sector is not participating in this rally. That means we're already at the top. biggrin.gif
Too much oil floating around, no demand at all. The oil companies have to spend
more money to buy storage to store them for future use and will continue to lose money this way.

When the Dow pulls back later, energy will fall. Very good for shorts to make money here. nod.gif


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post Aug 8 2009, 12:05 AM

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Yes, the fund managers now are all "Kiasu" as they say in Singapore.
They gotta buy something in their portfolio to fill in the blanks.

China growing asset is a huge bubble now. The pullback the past two days show how vulnerable
the bubble is. People are over-speculating how China can lift everyone out of the recession, buying
raw materials big time, factories firing up and making more toys now.

Come this December, they'll be in for big surprise - where are the buyers?

Tonight @ NYSE, they're pumping financials hard, even the p.o.s AIG and C are good as gold now. doh.gif


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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 8 2009, 12:07 AM)

Added on August 8, 2009, 12:31 am
Are you holding any stocks or 100% cash now?
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I've exited all my shorts and let my long ride for now. biggrin.gif

The Bulls are in charge. Have to let them play in the la la land for now.
Bears are preparing WMD in the bunker. brows.gif

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 8 2009, 04:36 AM)
Dow Jones 9,370 +114 +1.23%
Nasdaq 2,000 +27 1.37%
S&P 500 1,010 +13 1.34%
Gold 960 -3 -0.35%
Oil 70.74 -1.01 -1.41%

S&P 500, Dow industrials close at new '09 highs
U.S. stocks rallied to fresh highs of the year on Friday, taking wing on the latest sign of a turnaround in the U.S. economy after the Labor Department said monthly job losses had slowed
Citi headed for first close above $4 since April, but closed at $3.85 +0.05 or 1.3%, highest $4.19
Payrolls fall less in July, jobless rate eases
Obama: May be seeing beginning of recession's end
AIG shares jump after posting profit
RBS posts loss, warns of tough years ahead

sources taken from marketwatch and reuters tongue.gif sorry DMC...
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Feel free to post.. I'm too upset at the market now. mad.gif
I'm going to pray for big black swan next week. brows.gif

Have a good week end y'all.








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post Aug 8 2009, 10:24 PM

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No, AIG is a trap. Stay away. The price will eventually go down and collapse under toxic asset
when tons of those ARM rates reset again early next year. The only thing propping up its price is because of those short sellers that got caught.

Just barely two weeks ago, Canadian Bank says "Recession is Over" woo Hoo, popping out champagne! icon_idea.gif
http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2009/07/23/b...y-recovery.html

Barely 24 hours ago. Canada govt reported "Huh? What Recovery?" doh.gif
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...AaHr6oVrlDPY5zQ
http://www.thenewsroom.com/details/3762343

Does US really have "less bad" unemployment data? The "worse is over" they spin this?
True unemployment figure is already over 16%.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/08/07/...t-unemployment/
The fact is, many people already given up looking for jobs and some already past their 13 weeks of unemployment claims and those numbers won't get reported.

As for US housing, the temporary fix by their govt to help those home owners to refinance isn't going to last because majority of them have subpar credit. Within two years, half of those mortgages will be under water again.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090805/bs_nm/...ng_deutschebank
IMO, they're just on borrowed time.

Recession is over? Yeah right. doh.gif
People just refuse to accept reality the worse is NOT over.

I think US market could fall big time later end of this year or early next year. This rally mirrors the Great Depression where people thought the recovery was real after the big drop, then got caught with another 40% drop.

How's that for bear view? brows.gif

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QUOTE(moorish @ Aug 9 2009, 11:12 PM)
dun worry this time it wont drop big time, najib fixed the index with 30 rubberband
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Good point here. The rubberband 30 may also give the 'ikan bilis' the false sense of security. The other stocks may already pullback.. unless you invested in the rubberband 30, it doesn't truly measure well being until it is too late. Therefore, people need to look for other indicators before the massive exodus. If one believe the rubberband 30 will fly higher with the farce market, then invest in the rubberband 30 only because govt seems to want them to go higher. Swim along with this whale to the big ocean but the moment you sense it wanted beach itself, bail out asap.


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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 10 2009, 01:31 AM)
rclxms.gif Hope so!
Where does this feeling come from, mate? Your gut? Your head? Or your charts? laugh.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Typhoon..man... typhoon. Betcha oil speculators are saying..opps.
they're shutting down the oil platforms over south-china-sea - too dangerous to operate.
Time to jack up the Oil price. nod.gif

Also, evil Goldman Sach team also want their $85/barrel to come true @ Nymex.
They're paying witch doctors to conjour up bad weather at Gulf of Mexico. tongue.gif

On other hand. Taiwan did delay their planned petrol price hike because of the typhoon
- to help ease the long queue (buy it before the price hike) - actually causes self-fulfilling prophecy.

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QUOTE(Ka3tr0 @ Aug 9 2009, 11:12 PM)
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Eh bear got tail or not ?  blush.gif
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Bears have no tail, unlike the bulls.. sometimes chase after their peer tails - stampede and rolled over the cliff.
Bears just wait quietly and claw them when they fall out from the sky. tongue.gif

The next quarter will be interesting. cool2.gif

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