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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:12 PM) If Bursa can hit $10 next year (Before warrants expire), and assume 0% premium, below is the expected gain That is IF CI falls to below 1000pts next year.CL - 47%, CN - 37% CO- 12% If $11 CL - 76%, CN - 85% CO- 61% If $12 CL - 106%, CN - 134% CO- 110% So, depends on how you bet. |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:22 PM) When invest, we need to consider all the risk, right? Only PE of 20 by next year with good business, on future earning potential.Anyway, Bursa's PE ratio is very scarry... High risk, high gain. Based on my calculated risk, it is worth buying Added on August 7, 2009, 4:24 pmAgain, if you don't know what is warrant, pls ignore my posting. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 7 2009, 04:27 PM |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:28 PM) PE 20 is consider as very high in my standard... SGX is trading at above PE 24 to 26 X now, what is the market price ?Anyway, ppl that buy Bursa where got see PE ratio one! Buy Buy Buy!!!! That's why I said worth the risk buying warrant, but mothershare... BTW, I got more faith in PBB warrants in long term. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 7 2009, 04:31 PM |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:42 PM) Bursa (based on current PE) is 41.58!!! As I said, ppl that buy Bursa don't look at PE ratio one. year 2008 is not a good year to use as base.SGX is much lower and healthier. year 2009 F is more likely Attached File(s)
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QUOTE(htt @ Aug 7 2009, 05:18 PM) Today DBS result out, provision charge up like hell, some more not provide % as much as before... I think SGX operates like Genting Casino nowaday ( Business Model )UOB also bad, almost same like DBS... Only OCBC slightly better, with set off from their over allocation for CDO previously... STI down fast up also fast Added on August 7, 2009, 5:19 pm SGX Building already sold loh, but the name remains the same Btw, SGX result not that bad Cheers... weekend coming... Long weekend for Singapore... Just my personal thinking only. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 7 2009, 05:28 PM |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 7 2009, 05:30 PM) You need to consider potential dividend given which will deduct out the share price. I think only 10 to 20sen price adjustment half yearly or 10sen /Q ( ex dividends )Generous dividend is warrant's poison because warrant exercise price won't be adjusted due to generous dividend, nor warrant will get any dividend. Any warrant underlying target stock which give dividend should trade at lower premium due to above mentioned reason, Yup, this one I agree. When market hit low time, or depressed at low price, no investment house issued or little CW being issued, after market run up and hot again, issue like mad. Eventually most retailers always buy high or having high exercise price on the CW. Investment houses are not stupid, they won't issue CW when KNM was 0.3x, but they are willing to issue when KNM now is 0.85. Somemore alll issued at 30+% premium means stock price currently need to surge more than 30% in order to breakeven your purchased CW cost in a year time. For short term quick goreng, different story. Not much a problem This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 7 2009, 05:58 PM |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 7 2009, 08:58 PM) In situation like this, Obama might have to provide more free beer .Meanwhile, just let Dow to move ahead. Stock Market is a good place to create Wealth ( or lose your money ). This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 8 2009, 09:15 AM |
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Maybe we should consider an alternative reason why Dow should be bullish.
AIG reports $1.82B profit for quarter, its first since 2007; says it sees some stability This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 7 2009, 09:38 PM |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 8 2009, 04:56 AM) Feel free to post.. I'm too upset at the market now. Investors have every right to hope for, like the share prices to drop and the economy turning to worse, so that they can buy at lower prices., or to enrich oneself.I'm going to pray for big black swan next week. Have a good week end y'all. But if the economy does improve, many thousands of jobs could be saved or created. And share market is a place, wealth can be created rapidly. ( if you do concern about 14.5 million unemployed Americans ) On that matter, I vote for US economy to turn better. I see as a win win situation. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 8 2009, 10:39 AM |
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Aug 8 2009, 11:27 AM) ya, we will start mentioning bubble by that time Those days , i used to hear about 1/2 leg into the coffin theory, do not realise it is also applicable to Stock Market. for now: i think it's better 1/2 leg in & 1/2 leg out so up u oso happy and down u oso happy 1/2 Leg, i try to associate with Asset Allocation Model according to Valuation and Risks. AS the share price goes higher, the risk is getting bigger generally, unless the fundamentals of the companies improve. So it might be time to realise your gain slowly by converting to Cash ( FD/BONDS ). 50% cash/50% share starts when the market reaches a fair valuation , let say PE of 18X ( just an example ). Buy more shares if fair valuation increases or share price drops, sell more shares if over valued, so your risk level is intact. I just oversimplify as the subject of Asset Allocation is lengthy and And most investors are concerned with whether their shares would fly to the moon or not. You are right in that sense. P/s : it is just an investment model, does not mean all have to agree. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 9 2009, 08:49 AM |
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