At last, Axiata overtook TM
Stock Market V36: Return of the Bull, Part IV, Bull defies Newton's Law of Gravity
Stock Market V36: Return of the Bull, Part IV, Bull defies Newton's Law of Gravity
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Aug 7 2009, 10:04 AM
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At last, Axiata overtook TM
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Aug 7 2009, 10:25 AM
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Aug 7 2009, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 7 2009, 10:15 AM) oh damn, i never know AXIATA-CC listed today.. missed the monkey action again! Or maybe DigiAdded on August 7, 2009, 10:17 am Long due. I keep posting on last V37 thread that very soon TM bungkus. I think the THEORY behind AXIATA is dun want lose face to MAXIS once Maxis listed. TM Holder - Sell after the DIVIDEND. Added on August 7, 2009, 10:32 am QUOTE(aurora97 @ Aug 7 2009, 10:28 AM) well i guess i can't complain too much, i am still high on capital repayment (it is noteworthy this monies came froam Axiata) This post has been edited by jasontoh: Aug 7 2009, 10:32 AM |
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Aug 7 2009, 10:36 AM
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Aug 7 2009, 10:39 AM
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Aug 7 2009, 10:43 AM
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Aug 7 2009, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Aug 7 2009, 10:46 AM) "historically" it looks like Feb and Aug is the period where they announce their dividend pay out... Before joining wif Celcom, payout is about 10cents for Augustremembering no so long ago they affirm their commitment to payout dividend (as to when and how much, remains a question?). Added on August 7, 2009, 10:50 am QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 7 2009, 10:43 AM) I better give General Bear a call. He must come and take out all these green shoots. These people are just too happy. This cannot happen on my watch. This post has been edited by jasontoh: Aug 7 2009, 10:50 AM |
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Aug 7 2009, 10:56 AM
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Aug 7 2009, 11:40 AM
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Aug 7 2009, 01:46 PM
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Aug 7 2009, 03:27 PM
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Aug 7 2009, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 7 2009, 08:58 PM) Why do we have to be so pessimist? Maybe we were all wrong. The recession could had started 2 years back, and now it is halfway to recovery Not to say I'm bearish or bullish. |
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Aug 7 2009, 11:14 PM
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Aug 7 2009, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 7 2009, 11:15 PM) This is a false dawn, a suckers's rally, a dead-cat bounce, a bull-trap.... I still think that the more ppl thinking of major correction, it will not happen. When everyone start jumping in, then that is when the market will start crashing. Those late comers will have to Call it what you want - but we are still ALL DOOMED....DOOMED.....DOOMED |
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Aug 7 2009, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 7 2009, 11:23 PM) That's the problem...this market is being fuelled by massive liquidity flowing in and NOT by fundamentals. It's a classic bubble formation. The only question that remains is WHEN to cash out and take the money off the table.... I will definitely cash out when I see more people buying stocks. As of now, everyone still licking the wounds suffered last yr, except of course....all of us If it lasts till October - I'll be very surprised. But, hey, what do I know?? |
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Aug 7 2009, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 7 2009, 11:24 PM) Definitely AGREE! This rally is a BIG HUGE BULL TRAP! How do you know they dun have money? Maybe they are gambling in DJIA, that is why on and off, we see profit taking...etcThose idiots will lose their money. Just you wait. Come next month, they'll realize... huh.. where are those consumers? Oh...btw they're all layoff, no jobs..no money to buy anything. BAM! Down we go. Added on August 7, 2009, 11:29 pm QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 7 2009, 11:27 PM) Haven't you already noticed it happening on here?? A lot of fresh posters the last week or two and a lot of the "old hands" lying low..? Still not full yet. The boat still have limited space before starting to sink. So, try lure more ppl to play stocks This post has been edited by jasontoh: Aug 7 2009, 11:29 PM |
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Aug 7 2009, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 11:33 PM) old hand lie low because all money in jor. Waiting for economy recovery then sell. You sure or not...later c c ...play warrant again As for me, I think I wouldn't be trading for the next 2mths. My portfolio already completed. market up or down in short term most likely won't trigger me to buy/sell. cross finger Added on August 7, 2009, 11:37 pm QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 7 2009, 11:32 PM) The energy sector is not participating in this rally. That means we're already at the top. No one consume oil because everyone buying stocks Too much oil floating around, no demand at all. The oil companies have to spend more money to buy storage to store them for future use and will continue to lose money this way. When the Dow pulls back later, energy will fall. Very good for shorts to make money here. This post has been edited by jasontoh: Aug 7 2009, 11:37 PM |
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Aug 7 2009, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 7 2009, 11:45 PM) No to say I am optimistic, but one key question remains to reflect the current situation, why cash out and take the money off the table? To keep in FD with zero interest rate? That's the primary reason and situation we are facing now. You have a point over here. But if the price shoot up to 200-300%, are you still keeping for the div? Do advice meYou own some good fundamental stock, even they are paying you 3-4% dividend yield, there is no reason for people to cash out unless we see deteoriation in fundamental and economy. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 8 2009, 12:04 AM) This issue is off the table at current situation, this issue may sound potential if posted on last year end or beginning of the year. But then again, our money alwiz stuck wif stocks already right? I tot of like this....expanding the portfolio, let it grow few times, then sell, try to buy lower.This is OT as well currently. Axreit shoot 80% from the low, but I don't intend to sell as well, because even at 1.80, it still is a 7-8% yield, so sell it and keep it FD for 2.0-2.5%? Very hard decision to make. I am not saying which way is a right way or decision to make. Just we can't say the stock has risen 200-300% then it is too expensive to hold already. Citi drop from 50 to 1.00. But now it is 4.00, shoot up 300% so sell now or not? If after 3-5 years it may go to 7-10, then any selling is seem not wise, or it may not recover at all. Nobody knows, so only clue we can get is company earning. I made major mistake for short sighter (after posted in BAT thread revived my memory), by selling BAT (Rothmans) which I bought at 18.50 after it surged to 25 or so. Now look back it is a stupid decision because I taught it was rising a lot and make good profit already, so eager to take the profit. Since then I only sell if I view the economy is going to deteoriate which affecting the company earning, or company earning shows poor result, or fundamental company is not supporting the share price at existing share price level. I always compared with FD and other alternative investment tools, as you sell your stock, your cash need to park somewhere, right? Above issue is not applicable for goreng stock, only fundamental good stock. Just my preference and view, so that make investment life more simple, doesn't mean it is a good strategy though. One bad experience is that I sold a stocks 5x the capital, when that time it is giving me about >30% div based on my buy price, but sadly after I sell it, it flies double my selling price and giving about 100% div yield, if I'm still keeping it Added on August 8, 2009, 12:31 am QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 8 2009, 12:05 AM) Yes, the fund managers now are all "Kiasu" as they say in Singapore. Are you holding any stocks or 100% cash now?They gotta buy something in their portfolio to fill in the blanks. China growing asset is a huge bubble now. The pullback the past two days show how vulnerable the bubble is. People are over-speculating how China can lift everyone out of the recession, buying raw materials big time, factories firing up and making more toys now. Come this December, they'll be in for big surprise - where are the buyers? Tonight @ NYSE, they're pumping financials hard, even the p.o.s AIG and C are good as gold now. This post has been edited by jasontoh: Aug 8 2009, 12:31 AM |
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