I read a study, but as usual lah...I never bother to bookmark it. There was a doctor that believed that HDL/LDL/saturated fat is all good stuff. He says that cholesterol is just running in your body and when there's a problem, cholesterol will fix it.

AH! FOUND IT!
http://westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html

And then, there's another study (which I can't access because I don't have the acc password/username) about cholesterol, fat and protein. It has very solid proof (Test subject of 150 ppl. 86 ppl managed to finish the test) that may ruin the agriculture industry. It seems, we humans really do not need...... rice! We can basically live very well off simple meat and fruits. That bodes great for me, because I can't stand rice. It leaves me bloated.

If you are able to access the site, please let me have a full copy of the journal article for reading purposes . 150 samples and 86 of them made through isn't that convincing but then again, running through the report might prove me wrong.

86 samples. I think that's good enough for me. The dropout rate is quite high, but I think it's because the study was run in US, where it's rather hard for them to stick to a proper diet for a long time. I'd like to see the study done in Europe though. That ought to have solid consistent entries.

Errr... it's not that surprising actually. Rice (and wheat) simply happens to be a great source of energy, and thus cultivated.

I attended a 7th Day Adventist church seminar a looooonng time ago (some friend trying to convert me. LOL!). One points they kept hammering to their members is good nutrition through primitive diet.

Primitive as in: Fruits & only fruits. Even vegetables are not considered the main source of food for humans.
Of course, that's not possible for most. So it is only an ideal diet.
They then suggested this: Fruits, vege and Jesus bread.
(OK, OK! I made this name up because they were referring to the type of bread made during Jesus's time. Not the white bread we have now, but the raw, hard, brown bread 2000 years ago.) =)

Think about fruit fasting, if some dude can live with just eating fruits for a week and become healthier... I'm sure we could eat fruits only for all our lives with no problem.
Well, perhaps protein might be a bit of a problem in the long term.

When evaluating a study, there are lots of things that you need to look into. Its not a matter of who can stick to a diet or so. We don't know what they really eat. Studies can be very misleading. You are saying that a success rate of 57% could justify things for you? Not very convincing to me. Whats more without running through the journal, you wouldn't even know who are the samples ; athletes ? some jock ? old people ? To also say that humans don't need rice to survive is just too much . A lot of things should be put into consideration. Credibility of a study is so important because we got heaps of journal articles these days proving things that would only cause a huge mislead.


I'm just trying to make a point here because I don't want everyone to go home and start eating meat and fruits and nothing else. Things like this just can't be preached.


w/r

This post has been edited by shanecross: Sep 3 2009, 09:22 PM

Very true. I'll see what I can do about the journal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCFZoqmKf5M

Pretty close to what we're talking bout.

I did some part time work at McDonalds for around a month before, and here's how they handle cooking oil.

They completely change the oil about once or twice a week, the rest of the time the oil is topped up when necessary. So naturally, by the time a change is due, the oil has turned rather dark.

Can't say I know how KFC's kitchen procedures are exactly, but i'd say its similar.

oil change per 1 week with alot of cooking per day. Are McD using normal palm oil or specil oil ?

hallo

'i'm the guy your mother warned you'....nice try King83. How is your training going on?

Hey king83 how's going? still 100kg?

elloz...
I've been 105kg for awhile now...
trying to keep it that way, don't wanna get any heavier 'cos i keep breaking them chairs lol.
But lately i have gotten a lil bigger, when i stepped on the scale, i was shocked to see myself at 108kg lifetime heaviest...
so i am dieting now.... atm i'm back to 105kg, i'm thinking of dropping back to double digits, cos i wanna be faster in sports.

got caught up with the numbers bcos i am getting stronger and stronger so i continue eating without realizing my weight is shooting up

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Added on September 4, 2009, 12:51 pmwhat about u guys ?

This post has been edited by King83: Sep 4 2009, 12:51 PM

met lynx the other day, big guy

cool, i have been downsizing to 84kg, planning to get to 90+ end of this year. Now i can feel tat i lose strength on my DL. Dayum.

damn, that sucks...
i dun wanna lose strength either

yeah, it is very demotivating, i m going to start with light again, at least my gut is smaller now hehe.

my back. still "malu" want to show with shirt off. still skinny. i'm bulking currently. the most effective workout for back is lat pulldown?



This post has been edited by Shah_15: Sep 6 2009, 06:10 AM

the shirt do no justice for you bro

Chow

Only one exercise is not enough.

BB row, lat pull down, one arm DB row, deadlift and seated cable row, shrugs.