nice man..good result
show us ur abs..ehehe..
i have fatty abs also..but nevermind,later will cut it off..now bulking also

Nice shoulder there. Do u have back pose? All MM pose only.

alright guys , just a newbie in this bb-ing thingy. started to get serious like 4 months ago.



anyway, i would like to get some feedback on the picture below:

my waist and lower lats are too small and it doesnt feel good when im wearing my clothes ( you know, the loose clothes type of feel ) . So, anyone here could recommend me what to do?
currently my back workout is:

chin up(body weight) 7 x 3
lat pulldown 8x1,7x2,6x1
invert grip latpulldown 8x3
seated lat row 8x3
one arm dumbell rows 8x3

and i do some of the back machines regularly.

The problem is i cant get to work my lower lats and my right lat is bigger than the left. I can feel this as my tshirt tends to be tighter on the right side. By the way, i have a small ribcage size and high lats which tends to make things worst Whatever it is, i just hope to get some help. p.s i have some serious stretch marks on my pits lol

This post has been edited by Kalist0: Dec 4 2009, 02:21 AM

why do so many exercises for back ?

your foundation is weak. Focus and master fewer movements. The reps are low for BW exercises ?

emphasize on big, multi joint exercises .

two pulldown exercises and two rowing exercises ? is that really necessary and additional back machine exercises for ?!!?!

My back


All I did was
Deadlifts
Pullups (weighted and for reps alternating , depends)
Chinups (weighted and reps alternating)
High rep 1-arm DB rows / Kroc Rows / Harry Rows = Take the heaviest DB and rep it out, slight momentum is encouraged but don;t be half rep MCgee. rep range = 15 - 30 reps, Your grip will hurt , you will leave some skin in the gym, you will build a stronger upper back, you will feel better and you can ditch the myriad of back exercises you are doing now.

focus on less exercises for a better foundation/base.

PS- I know you guys gonna google what kroc row is, is all over youtube. if you don't know matt kroc, you don't know strong

For back, I just do pull-ups (normal grip, wide grip, narrow grip), dumbbell rows, incline barbells rows, and bent-over rows.

I can't do Kroc rows you know. It does nothing for me. My back workouts is;

- Snatch CNJ along with clean and snatch pulls (The Olympic lifts as it's specific to me)
- Deadlifts (all the variations, from deficit, from rack)
- Barbell rows ("Cheating" barbell rows with slow eccentric [btwn 3-6 seconds])
- Pull-ups and chin-ups

I don't know which fool came up with a variety of different exercises and claims it hits this and that muscle. When I experiment, I notice that these exercises are probably a progression exercise to the actual ones such as pull-ups.

I've tried the pull-downs and despite how many pros use it, it really doesn't do anything for me. I don't know why people say they can isolate the muscle better and work on it better, but if you ask me, it's really more like "you can pull more repetitions and the weight stack moves so you think it looks cute like some stupid moshimaro character". You're doing a darned back exercise, stop ISOLATING. Jeez...isolate you traps, my lats, my lumbar muscles, my scapulae........how about you isolate your buttcheeks and make it wobble like a lady from a Pitbull video?

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Dec 4 2009, 10:15 AM

Personally, I don't do deadlift and squads. It works out too many muscles group. Makes my other workout pretty lame.

LOL-ed for not doing deadlift... n we dont do squads too

how will that make ur other workouts pretty lame?

Well, for example, if I did deadlifts on for my back workout, and I'm doing legs the next day, it'll suck since my legs are already fatigue.

I'm be really surprised if you can DO a whole squad. Man...that's some strong ass gay penors you have that.


Yeah I can understand, after you do a whole squad, it's easy for your workouts to be bloody lame.

You ought to do squats though. I heard it can increase testosterone levels. In which after that, you can probably do TWO squads and have a GREAT workout!

LOL @ PB!

Which deadlift you doing?

I deadlifted yesterday and my legs are fine!

This post has been edited by pedro: Dec 4 2009, 11:45 AM

i deadlifted yesterday and my legs are fine too

Yea, I hear that all the time. But when I did research on the internet, can't seem to find any solid evidence. Some say yes, some say no.

Adui

I hope that you are actually playing along and not taking things too seriously.

This post has been edited by uhuk-uhuk: Dec 4 2009, 12:02 PM

I am perplexed why do you guys even bother replying his posts.
1. his opinion don't matter
2. he does squads - nice one pizza
3. he probably doesn't even looked like he lift weights

yeah, i searched on Kroc Rows, the first link is youtube which IFFB pro doing 225x25 Kroc Rows

i cant really differentiate Normal DB rows with Kroc Rows, what is the difference? movement looks the same to me
one more thing, what is the proper form of doing db row, i have seen some people the arm angle not perpendicular to the floor, alil infront.
what is the proper arm angle?

IF you can find 10 guys, I'll show you 10 different latissimus dorsi insertion points. Ever seen a guy that can do a barbell row with his back nearly vertical and still have sore lats the next day? Yes, me. The theory is simple, but the application is not. Just find an angle and position where your lats are worked out like hell with 5 repetitions. Then do 7 repetitions, and slow down the eccentric portion.

Find a good tailor. Welcome to the world of getting your clothes tailor-made.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Couldn't help it.