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post Jul 25 2009, 06:11 PM, updated 17y ago

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Hi all, i'm seeking info abt university/college in KL that have degree programs that have credit transfer/twinning programs directly to the University of Melbourne. I need to know it as soon as possible as I need to decide which university to enter by next week already. Is there any university/college in KL that have such relation with University of Melbourne?

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Yes, Foundation of Science by Taylor's Uni College can lead you to Melbourne Uni.
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ts was asking about degree programmes......

what's this obsession with uni of melbourne anyway.......?
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IMU still has links with University of Melbourne?
I read somewhere in this forum that Uni Melb no longer takes in IMU students already.

It is to my knowledge that there is no twinning option for institutions in Malaysia with the University of Melbourne other than what I mention above (which is now an unknown whether the link is established or not).

If you just want to go Melbourne, Monash University is in Melbourne also.
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post Jul 25 2009, 10:08 PM

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Based on Melb Uni, it doesnt matter which college. As long you meet the criteria, you can go ahead.
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post Jul 25 2009, 10:38 PM

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I think TS is looking for a twinning program with Melbourne U. 1+2 2+1 kind of thing.
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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Jul 25 2009, 09:19 PM)
IMU still has links with University of Melbourne?
I read somewhere in this forum that Uni Melb no longer takes in IMU students already.

It is to my knowledge that there is no twinning option for institutions in Malaysia with the University of Melbourne other than what I mention above (which is now an unknown whether the link is established or not).

If you just want to go Melbourne, Monash University is in Melbourne also.
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melb is now graduate entry......but the pms arrangement still exist, but in a different format......u need to be in the graduate entry stream, finish an extra year for your b.med.sc, and then maybe get entry into 1st year of the new melb 4 year programme.......

taylors has qs and architecture diploma programmes which may allow some graduates to have advance standing in the 3rd year of melb's corresponding degree programmes.........subject to appropriately high enough preformance......
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 25 2009, 03:27 PM)
melb is now graduate entry......but the pms arrangement still exist, but in a different format......u need to be in the graduate entry stream, finish an extra year for your b.med.sc, and then maybe get entry into 1st year of the new melb 4 year programme.......

taylors has qs and architecture diploma programmes which may allow some graduates to have advance standing in the 3rd year of melb's corresponding degree programmes.........subject to appropriately high enough preformance......
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the architecture diploma programme is being phased out last i heard.
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post Jul 26 2009, 03:30 AM

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hi all..thx for all the comments and suggestions. i really appreciate them.

i had to enter melbourne uni no matter what (cuz my parents had forced me to), looking for business program. is there any foundation in business available in Taylor College that enables me to credit transfer/twining programs in degree level?hopefully twining programs, 2+1 those..


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no twinning programmes....

business courses easy to get in, just go direct there for the 3 years lah...

please note if you only study 1 year there, you cannot stay back to work, if that's the intention.........
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QUOTE(*~ChoC_CanDLe~* @ Jul 26 2009, 04:30 AM)
hi all..thx for all the comments and suggestions. i really appreciate them.

i had to enter melbourne uni no matter what (cuz my parents had forced me to), looking for business program. is there any foundation in business available in Taylor College that enables me to credit transfer/twining programs in degree level?hopefully twining programs, 2+1 those..
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tell your parents, its a first uni testing an new system. A guinea pig system.

Does a degree graduate from Uni MElb make any difference from a graduate from other uni?
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if i take foundation in arts in taylors den i need to go there for 3 yrs for degree?no other choices?i also dunno y they're so concerned abt pushing me into that U..juz bcuz it's the best U of australia ba..haih..no choice lo..they are the ones who are paying the fees..
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QUOTE(*~ChoC_CanDLe~* @ Jul 26 2009, 12:17 PM)
if i take foundation in arts in taylors den i need to go there for 3 yrs for degree?no other choices?i also dunno y they're so concerned abt pushing me into that U..juz bcuz it's the best U of australia ba..haih..no choice lo..they are the ones who are paying the fees..
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i think you need to tell your parents that currently, the highest rank university in oz is anu........NOT melbourne........

and no, if you look for work in oz, employers don't normally bother with which uni you come from.......

if you look for job in msia, most employers also only note you graduate from australia.......

also note that melb fees are the highest in oz for international students......up to 50% more than some other go8 unis......
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yea...i checked abt that and told them too..too bad they don't care abt the fees and they insist that i must enter melbourne u...haihz.
btw.thx alot for the info.
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:19 PM

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I would ask *~ChoC_CanDLe~*, what is your highest qualification? The only ones I seem to see is an unhealthy amount of knowledge of dresses, handbags et al (through if you find a Kinomoto Sakura figurine I might be interested).

Parents where money is no object, insisting on entering a university based on perceived notions, not happy with HELP university college?
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ANU is a research-based..If graduate course,will be more better..Heard from someone who studying in Australia.

Well,you have to judge your own qualifications..Melbourne Uni is very strict..Maybe u could take up SAM or A levels or something..If u have only money,without sufficient result,you might not be able to go in..
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QUOTE(*~ChoC_CanDLe~* @ Jul 26 2009, 01:17 PM)
if i take foundation in arts in taylors den i need to go there for 3 yrs for degree?no other choices?i also dunno y they're so concerned abt pushing me into that U..juz bcuz it's the best U of australia ba..haih..no choice lo..they are the ones who are paying the fees..
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there is monash, also good in business.


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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 26 2009, 02:14 PM)
i think you need to tell your parents that currently, the highest rank university in oz is anu........NOT melbourne........

and no, if you look for work in oz, employers don't normally bother with which uni you come from.......

if you look for job in msia, most employers also only note you graduate from australia.......

also note that melb fees are the highest in oz for international students......up to 50% more than some other go8 unis......
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yup, true. Its so overrated of UniMelb.

viceversa, when you graduate, you want to get to work with skills employer`s want to use for the company . what else, while for your parents; name. status..fame..isnt it?

you can go in unimelb, if you cant cope with the standards. then burn alot of money with them.



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I have had friends who managed to get into UniMelb second year Commerce program via credit transfer from Monash Sunway, but like any credit transfer, it depends on whether you meet the requirement in having a certain average over your first year results and perhaps some other factors that I'm not aware of.

Alternatively, just get yourself enrolled in one of those pre-u courses (SAM, AUSMAT, A-levels) and get the grades required.
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QUOTE(haya @ Jul 26 2009, 04:19 PM)
I would ask *~ChoC_CanDLe~*, what is your highest qualification? The only ones I seem to see is an unhealthy amount of knowledge of dresses, handbags et al (through if you find a Kinomoto Sakura figurine I might be interested).

Parents where money is  no object, insisting on entering a university based on perceived notions, not happy with HELP university college?
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Jul 26 2009, 06:35 PM)
there is monash, also good in business.


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yup, true. Its so overrated of UniMelb.

viceversa, when you graduate, you want to get to work with skills employer`s want to use for the company . what else, while for your parents; name. status..fame..isnt it?

you can go in unimelb, if you cant cope with the standards. then burn alot of money with them.
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dismiss a top U is rather ignorant, top U's make you stand out more esp in big companies. they also offer more oppournities, companies frequent top unis and steal students moer then low and second class unis. you can argue till the cows come home that certain employers dont care or its overrated but then again it offers what it offers, oppournities tho just slightly higher.

diminishing returns of scale rule mate, applies to everything.

QUOTE(*~ChoC_CanDLe~* @ Jul 26 2009, 12:17 PM)
if i take foundation in arts in taylors den i need to go there for 3 yrs for degree?no other choices?i also dunno y they're so concerned abt pushing me into that U..juz bcuz it's the best U of australia ba..haih..no choice lo..they are the ones who are paying the fees..
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best uni in aus is ANU, then Uni MEL then UQ. thats for the top 3

first, there are no direct ways to get into them via credit transfer or 2+1. most of these universities have got very strict systems, the only uni you can go and hope to get ino UniMEL with a 100% credit transfer is Monash or a uni in the group of 8 anything else is just bullshit. going to monash is still taking a risk, you might and might not get a 100% credit transfer or have issues along the way, but its relatively easier compared to other non-goup of 8 unis.

a lot of monash students do jump to UniMel, but again its not a direct 100% thing.

if you are in foundation level you can opt for a good foundation, MUFY, A-Levels (the best) and go there and spend 3 years.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jul 26 2009, 07:47 PM)
dismiss a top U is rather ignorant, top U's make you stand out more esp in big companies. they also offer more oppournities, companies frequent top unis and steal students moer then low and second class unis. you can argue till the cows come home that certain employers dont care or its overrated but then again it offers what it offers, oppournities tho just slightly higher.

diminishing returns of scale rule mate, applies to everything.
best uni in aus is ANU, then Uni MEL then UQ. thats for the top 3


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graduating from a 'higher ranked' uni may get you past the front door (maybe more likely to be called for interview), but beyond that, it all depends on you ability to work and produce results.......trust me.......

and you forgot sydney, which is ranked higher than melb in some scales........
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QUOTE(*~ChoC_CanDLe~* @ Jul 25 2009, 06:11 PM)
Hi all, i'm seeking info abt university/college in KL that have degree programs that have credit transfer/twinning programs directly to the University of Melbourne. I need to know it as soon as possible as I need to decide which university to enter by next week already. Is there any university/college in KL that have such relation with University of Melbourne?

THANKS all for the help  notworthy.gif
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Good universities such as UniMelb, ANU, UQ, UWA will never offer twinning or joint effort programs.It degrades their quality to collaborate with money making local colleges and universities. Unless the university itself is on par with their standards. Examples of such programs are the Singapore-MIT Alliance which awards you a MIT Masters Degree in addition to a NUS degree. Each year the program is ONLY limited to around 100 bright students.

However I do see that there's lots of UK universities today which offer twinning programs or what we call joint degree awards such as those found in local colleges such as KBU, APIIT and UCSI. One big difference which sets you apart when you're awarded a degree from those programs is that in your degree scroll you're going to get something like:
This degree is collaboratively awarded by University A and University College B, Malaysia.

IMHO such degrees are crap and only degree mills produces them. Most universities which does this are probably sellouts.Surpirisingly most of them are from the UK.
Example would be TARC Advanced Diploma students who are allowed to sit for a single semester before being conferred a degree. How can they allow such things?

Have you seen any good Australian University or even a US one offering such joint award twinning degrees?

There's no compromise in this. If you want a recognized degree, get one which is directly awarded by the university itself.

With that said, good universities will never offer twinning programs or allow advanced standing into their final years with offered programs which are jointly run by local colleges.
Even with a diploma of high CGPA score, they'll only allow credit transfers into their 2nd year.

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With that said, good universities will never offer twinning programs or allow advanced standing into their final years with offered programs which are jointly run by local colleges.
Even with a diploma of high CGPA score, they'll only allow credit transfers into their 2nd year.
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that is not true.......unless melb and uq are not good.........

http://www.taylors.edu.my/courses/arc/arc_landing.php?id=233

http://www.taylors.edu.my/courses/bio/bio_landing.php?id=110
http://www.taylors.edu.my/courses/bio/bio_landing.php?id=111
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QUOTE(cameltoe @ Jul 26 2009, 08:54 PM)
Good universities such as UniMelb, ANU, UQ, UWA will never offer twinning or joint effort programs.It degrades their quality to collaborate with money making local colleges and universities. Unless the university itself is on par with their standards. Examples of such programs are the Singapore-MIT Alliance which awards you a MIT Masters Degree in addition to a NUS degree. Each year the program is ONLY limited to around 100 bright students.

However I do see that there's lots of UK universities today which offer twinning programs or what we call joint degree awards such as those found in local colleges such as KBU, APIIT and UCSI. One big difference which sets you apart when you're awarded a degree from those programs is that in your degree scroll you're going to get something like:
This degree is collaboratively awarded by University A and University College B, Malaysia.

IMHO such degrees are crap and only degree mills produces them. Most universities which does this are probably sellouts.Surpirisingly most of them are from the UK.
Example would be TARC Advanced Diploma students who are allowed to sit for a single semester before being conferred a degree. How can they allow such things?

Have you seen any good Australian University or even a US one offering such joint award twinning degrees?

There's no compromise in this. If you want a recognized degree, get one which is directly awarded by the university itself.

With that said, good universities will never offer twinning programs or allow advanced standing into their final years with offered programs which are jointly run by local colleges.
Even with a diploma of high CGPA score, they'll only allow credit transfers into their 2nd year.
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to add up on this, monash universities in malaysia are different to monash AU. you need to score really high to get to UQ or monash AU, or MEL U.

QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 26 2009, 08:48 PM)
graduating from a 'higher ranked' uni may get you past the front door (maybe more likely to be called for interview), but beyond that, it all depends on you ability to work and produce results.......trust me.......

and you forgot sydney, which is ranked higher than melb in some scales........
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true that, but to say its the same is rather ignorant. a good uni is not the end all but just a medium that offers you more oppournities, you pay premium for it
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 26 2009, 09:11 PM)
That's still a 2 years with the participating Australian Unis right?
I'm not from the Bio Medical field, therefore I don't know much about their arrangement.

However I'm certain for Engineering and technical courses, joint degree awards between local university colleges and Australian universities are unheard of.

I could have missed which course TS wanted to pursue, but if she intends to do medical sciences or a technical subject, my advise is look elsewhere because the Group8 in Australia will set her back to at least half a million just for studies.

If she wants to do Arts or Business, then it should be fine the extra reputation would benefit her in the long run.
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QUOTE(cameltoe @ Jul 26 2009, 09:43 PM)
That's still a 2 years with the participating Australian Unis right?
I'm not from the Bio Medical field, therefore I don't know much about their arrangement.

However I'm certain for Engineering and technical courses, joint degree awards between local university colleges and Australian universities are unheard of.

I could have missed which course TS wanted to pursue, but if she intends to do medical sciences or a technical subject, my advise is look elsewhere because the Group8 in Australia will set her back to at least half a million just for studies.

If she wants to do Arts or Business, then it should be fine the extra reputation would benefit her in the long run.
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Taylor's claim to have links with ANU, UNSW and UQ in the Australia for their Engineering courses. A staff from ANU College of Engineering also confirms to me that they take in students from Taylor's, but usually of very high score. That's still possible.

I thought HELP has a programme with Uni Melb?
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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Jul 26 2009, 09:47 PM)
Taylor's claim to have links with ANU, UNSW and UQ in the Australia for their Engineering courses. A staff from ANU College of Engineering also confirms to me that they take in students from Taylor's, but usually of very high score. That's still possible.

I thought HELP has a programme with Uni Melb?
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Credit transfers yes but joint offered degree programs nope.

Employers will start to have doubts about you if you're going to show them a degree scroll which was jointly awarded by both a local institution and a university.
They'll know once they see 2 different logos below your scroll.
The University of Nottingham Trent, Coventry, Sheffield Hallam, U of East London have known to offer such programs.All being UK degrees.

Get yourself a REAL degree if you're serious.
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contrary to what many people think, melb (or any aussie uni for that matter) is not an 'ivy league' uni.......they will and do twin with other educational establishments in other countries........it's money making to them........

the real ivy leagues on the other hand, really do NOT have any twinning or formal credit transfer with anyone else.......

have you seen any twinning with cambridge, oxford, lse, imperial, harvard, yale, caltech etc?...............smile.gif



edited for clarity.......

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 26 2009, 10:05 PM)
contrary to what many people think, melb (or any aussie uni for that matter) is not an 'ivy league' uni.......they will and do twin with other educational establishments in other countries........it's money making to them........

the real ivy leagues on the other hand, really do NOT have any twinning or credit transfer with anyone else.......

have you seen any twinning with cambridge, oxford, lse, imperial, harvard, yale, caltech etc?...............smile.gif
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I think you can still do credit transfers between participating IARU member universities for some degree programmes.

Members include:

Australian National University
University of Cambridge
University of Oxford
University of California, Berkeley
Yale University
China Peking University
Singapore National University of Singapore
University of Tokyo
University of Copenhagen
ETH Zurich


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these are case by case informal 'cooperation' credit transfers......not the formal commercial ones run by msian ipts..........
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like limeuu said. such credit transfers are treated as case by case basis. the cooperative programmes run by malaysian IPTS have automatic admission once u've fulfilled the minimum credit requirements, usually 70-80%.
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i think HELP does have programmes with UQ, they alwyz recommend students to join UQ in twinning programmes. hmm..i got it. if i wish for credit transfers and do not want to spend all 3 yrs in melbourne U, i'll have to go to monash/taylors for foundation and degree then have credit transfers to melbourne U. On the other hand, if i wish for safe study, i had to transfer to melbourne U directly after my foundation lvl and spend all 3 yrs there. thx for all the suggestions you guyz offered. i really do appreaciate them =)
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this is how the unimelb soon to be.
when cutting too much staff, flaws happen..when flaws happen. bingo * unimelb turn into A uni-money making degree* buying ppl but dun give the right stuff.
or...worst...performance drop rolleyes.gif
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Why not directly go over for your foundations at MUFY or trinity? Then just get a direct entry into the Aus U there (If you're opting for melbourne).

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