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post Jul 26 2009, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 26 2009, 12:51 AM)

I think if something needs to be pinned up for guys, it should be this: http://artofmanliness.com/
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Interesting site, especially about the "so you want my job" and the health & fitness sections.

QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 01:44 PM)

Bottom line end of the day: women dont like losers.

The difference between me and david is that I focus on the characteristics of people who are thriving in life. Something that david wouldnt do directly in front of paying customers. He can talk till the cows come home about confidence, being well groomed, well mannered, having a good posture, and conveying self-worth.... It does not change the fact that underlying all those core elements is physical, mental and emotional wellbeing.


What david deangelo talks about is really easy to follow only IF you are already thriving physically, mentally and emotionally. A hapless loser will not be able to follow david's advice even though he feels good listening to it and reading about it.
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On the contrary, David DeAngelo's material is an excellent primer for guys who are ready and willing to improve themselves.
The verbosity of his lectures is necessary to explain and back up his points in-depth, versus throwing out vague, generalised statements and letting his audience out to hang. Remember he is talking to a live audience, not writing a summary.

About hapless losers not being able to follow his advice; well, what he is doing is akin to "teaching a man how to fish", but if the hapless loser isn't willing to listen nor is ready for change, NOTHING and NO ONE can help him.

And fixed this quote:
NOBODY dont like losers. Not even the losers themselves.

IMO, the main reason you're getting all this flak is that you make alot of broad, generalised assertions on subjective matters. There are SOME points which are good advice (a guy needs to be emotionally, physically, mentally, financially sorted out), but you're making alot of assertions that aren't quite the 'big picture'.

What you stated in the first post seems to be more refined and on the right track, but by and by, it is not a rule. There are countless exceptions to what you posted as people are attracted to others for wildly varying reasons, and those reasons will also vary as a person ages, and those reasons are often illogical ones.

Remember, logic and emotion are two opposing forces that co-exist in a person.

Another piece of constructive criticism for you: bludgeoning people with forceful statements and expecting them to swallow it will net you exactly the reaction you got in this thread. The disclaimer makes it feel all the more pretentious.

Also, you expressed the sentiment of not liking to read before. I tell you now that it is a mistake to think reading is not necessary. A learned person is widely read on any and every subject he or she ventures to become an authority on.

QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:05 PM)
I think there's a point you are missing. for starters, you are communicating with written words. So your words have to be presented in a way that people will want to read it, is quick to understand and is willing to accept.

The way you frame and present your points is very important as it relates to how people interpret it. I would know. I'm a journalism graduate.
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Hey there fellow JR grad, where'd you do your course?

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