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mumeichan
post Jul 27 2009, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 26 2009, 04:51 AM)
This put a LOT of things into perspective. For all my faults and flaws, no matter how "uncool" I was and all the horrible pratfalls I've made in life... I realised I had inherent worth because I stood up and took action where few people would or could, and the times I did so really did mean something.
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You may think you are worth the heavens but that's is just your personal opinion about yourself. That opinion doesn't carry much weight when it comes to interpersonal relationships. When there is interaction between between people, each person wishes to derive something from that interaction. Whatever it may be, a person will present his self in a way he thinks would achieve the desired effect on the other party, thus getting him what he wants.

So even if you think you have some inherant worth for doing something when others don't, it would not mean much if the person you're dealing with thinks you're a complete idiot for making such an action.

QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:25 PM)
Oh, so he's one of the men still trying to figure women out? Lol it'll never work. Reason being that women and men are different. You don't have to understand women to please women and attract women.
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+1 This is so true

QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jul 27 2009, 09:26 AM)
when you were growing up with your high school friends, do you two check each other out when your pubes start to grow? "Hey, i got few strands!!! come see!! come see!!!"  did you?  hmm.gif
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In all honesty, I have seen and hear about my friends doing such weird stuff.
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Btw @Ezra's original post,

Love isn't that simple, so is any other type of human interaction. If it was, people wouldn't have so much problems.


Added on July 27, 2009, 10:39 am
QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 27 2009, 10:19 AM)
If you're truly a realist Ezra, you'll transform your writing efforts into something more tangible, more concrete, something touchable, say, a girlfriend maybe, or your soul mate.

Your writings shows that you are probably like us, perceiving reality on our own terms, and perhaps manifesting our own realities.
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I agree. Do you know why business promote products and services by doing demonstrations and publishing success stories? Do you know why companies prefer experienced workers? People need to see the results to be convinced something really works. Talk alone is cheap. If you show the results, people will be willing to listen and follow you even if you talk crap. Why do people buy Donald Trump's books? Because he's known to be a good writer? Because the contents are good? Definitely not, he's not a writer and people know shit about what's in his book. But because he proved to be a successful businessman, people are willing to give it a look.

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post Jul 27 2009, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 27 2009, 02:40 PM)
You are absolutely correct. This is my personal opinion about myself. Meaning that other people's judgements have stopped influencing my perception of self.

Wooo, so somebody thinks that I'm an idiot. So what? Plenty of other people think that I'm alright, and I have friends. This is the key. So what? There are other judgements of worth apart from what other people think and what I intend to derive from an interaction, because I CHOOSE my interactions and the people I interact with. So in the end I really don't care.  biggrin.gif
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If you really live life with a 'so what?' and 'I don't care attitude', I expect the real life you to be someone who doesn't have many friends, gets into problems easily and won't go far in anything that you do. Even if you are some grand person like Bill Gate, some Russian Oligarch or some Arab King, you can't CHOOSE who you interact with all the time. Occasions where you meet someone new or you have do deal with someone you don't naturally get along with will arise. Even your close friends wont be the exact same person everyday. Their mood changes and events occurs where we always have to think before we talk and say, where we step out of our comfort zone to please others. I'm amazed people can live with a me, myself and I attitude believing that if he think he's ok, the world will revolve smoothly around him.

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post Jul 28 2009, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 27 2009, 04:01 PM)
You're arguing apples and oranges here. Nobody is advocating a the-world-revolves-around-me attitude. We're talking about how your life shouldn't be spent worrying about what other people think of you. The two are not the same.
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Dickson's reply certainly resonated with the-world-revolves-around-me attitude. I never said we should spent out life worrying about what people think about you. I think that we need to give a considerable amount of thought about what people think about us when we communicate with others, to achieve our desired gain from that interaction.

QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 27 2009, 11:50 PM)
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I'm stunned into silence, so my thanks to Noob13 and Iambored for saying something.
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In light of you intention to make CC a better place, refrain from posting useless lines if you have nothing to say in response to what I wrote. Or, If you can't understand the point I am trying to make, I'm sorry that you have a difficulty understanding English.

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post Jul 28 2009, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 28 2009, 06:58 PM)
Yes, and that's the point. It sounded like that to YOU.

You've taken what I've said to run off on a WILD tangent with it, with hypothetical "what ifs" and "must be"s while entirely ignoring the context of the discussion:

The perception of the self BY the same person as it relates to SELF-WORTH.

Something I said must have truly hit a raw nerve with you. I suggest that you calm down and chill instead of letting your PMS run amok.
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Whether what you said hit a nerve on me, whether I have PMS and whether my emotions are raging or not doesn't change the point I made and the content of what I wrote.

It is true your post sounded to ME as you were advocating a me, myself and I attitude. So I responded to it the way I read it.
If you think that they way I read it wasn't the way you intended it to mean, you could have easily quoted me and explained calmly how I got it wrong.
Of course, not everytime everyone understands what you say they way you want them to the first time you say it. There is no limit to the number of replies you can post in this thread, so please use this liberty to patiently explain your points instead of merely accusing people of being incapable of understanding you and telling them they have PMS.

Let me give you an example of a good response
QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 27 2009, 04:01 PM)
You're arguing apples and oranges here. Nobody is advocating a the-world-revolves-around-me attitude. We're talking about how your life shouldn't be spent worrying about what other people think of you. The two are not the same.
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See, noob13 explained to me that I have misunderstood your post and told me why. That at least gives me a chance to explain why I posted what I did.


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