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 1 Lot Ghost - What Does This Mean, Lets Discuss What is 1 Lot Buyer

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post Jul 24 2009, 10:04 AM, updated 17y ago

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Most of the time we noticed there are lots of 1 lot buyer ..
Question :

What is this 1 lot?
What the motive of 1 lot?
What the expected , if you see lots of 1 lot?

Lets Discuss and share your view on ....
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post Jul 24 2009, 11:03 AM

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i feel that 1 lot ghost is those ppl that wanted to manipulate the share price and hoping for the share price to drop.
i discovered 1 lot ghost in SAAG yesterday, they wanted SAAG's price to drop by 0.005 so they keep on selling 1 lot at best buy price yesterday.

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post Jul 24 2009, 11:17 AM

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i do believe, there r possibilities that ghost transaction is to check their position in order for them to pass volumn. if u r holding 20000 lots at certain price and u r intend to force the price down to create panic... then ur "partner" will Q at a lower price .. so if ur team able to buy at 1. which means that's ur Q.. u could continue sell for a big vloumn but the number of shares still among ur hand....if the public felt panic and throw all.. so the team will grap as much as possible for them to push to price later on...

anyway, just my point of view, do not take it as a professional advice or offical data/starement.


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post Jul 24 2009, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Jul 24 2009, 11:03 AM)
i feel that 1 lot ghost is those ppl that wanted to manipulate the share price and hoping for the share price to drop.
i discovered 1 lot ghost in SAAG yesterday, they wanted SAAG's price to drop by 0.005 so they keep on selling 1 lot at best buy price yesterday.
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Guys,

This 1 lot strategy will only work IF you are manipulating quiet counters.

1 lot will not create a panic if you are playing with popular counters.
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post Jul 24 2009, 11:44 AM

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It would be a signal that MM is tranmitting from one to another.

Must not decode in opposite direction.

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kmarc
post Jul 24 2009, 12:35 PM

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I always thought it was a strategy to force somebody to sell.

Say you hold 1000 lots and Q to sell at RM5.00. That's the lowest price anybody wanted to sell. Somebody Q at RM4.90 but couldn't get. So, that guy "kacau" the RM5.00 Q by buying 1 lot which happens to be yours! You end up with a partial match of 999 lots PLUS you would need to pay the commision. If the Q doesn't go up, then it is either you keep the 999 lots and pay the commision or you are force to sell at a lower price i.e. RM 4.90.

That's what I think anyway. Don't listen to me as I'm just a noob.... blush.gif
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post Jul 24 2009, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 24 2009, 12:35 PM)
I always thought it was a strategy to force somebody to sell.

Say you hold 1000 lots and Q to sell at RM5.00. That's the lowest price anybody wanted to sell. Somebody Q at RM4.90 but couldn't get. So, that guy "kacau" the RM5.00 Q by buying 1 lot which happens to be yours! You end up with a partial match of 999 lots PLUS you would need to pay the commision. If the Q doesn't go up, then it is either you keep the 999 lots and pay the commision or you are force to sell at a lower price i.e. RM 4.90.

That's what I think anyway. Don't listen to me as I'm just a noob....  blush.gif
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Yup, it could be a strategy to annoy the opposite party.

But there are some people just want to make fun out of it as well, it is especially true on index linked, whenever the end of month trade (for FKLI settlement calculation), we tend to see the 1 lot monkey job to influence the FKLI a few points higher.

A few point higher settlement could means several hundred to thousand for some.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 24 2009, 12:35 PM)
I always thought it was a strategy to force somebody to sell.

Say you hold 1000 lots and Q to sell at RM5.00. That's the lowest price anybody wanted to sell. Somebody Q at RM4.90 but couldn't get. So, that guy "kacau" the RM5.00 Q by buying 1 lot which happens to be yours! You end up with a partial match of 999 lots PLUS you would need to pay the commision. If the Q doesn't go up, then it is either you keep the 999 lots and pay the commision or you are force to sell at a lower price i.e. RM 4.90.

That's what I think anyway. Don't listen to me as I'm just a noob....  blush.gif
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it make sense, but i think it can apply to sell as well by throwing 1 lot and expecting the other way round.
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post Jul 24 2009, 11:36 PM

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everyone is giving good points, all possibilities is there. just make sure u pay highly attention to the signal "1" ... it might be a signal to "something"... or maybe it is just someone who wanna play around and caused some attention....
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post Jul 25 2009, 12:27 AM

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1 lot by 1 lot selldown? big buyers maybe present... beware... big buy-up may come suddenly...
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post Jul 25 2009, 12:34 AM

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Great info Takashi. I've never thought about it that way.

QUOTE(Takashi @ Jul 24 2009, 11:17 AM)
i do believe, there r possibilities that ghost transaction is to check their position in order for them to pass volumn. if u r holding 20000 lots at certain price and u r intend to force the price down to create panic... then ur "partner" will Q at a lower price .. so if ur team able to buy at 1. which means that's ur Q.. u could continue sell for a big vloumn but the number of shares still among ur hand....if the public felt panic and throw all.. so the team will grap as much as possible for them to push to price later on...

anyway, just my point of view, do not take it as a professional advice or offical data/starement.
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Ya kmarc, I've always thought that 1 lot is to annoy buyers/sellers. Once, I was queueing quite late in the 2nd session. I had somebody throw 3 lots to me. I waited patiently until almost near the pre-closing stage. Then the seller got tired of waiting and sold his entire 30 lots at my queue price.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 24 2009, 12:35 PM)
I always thought it was a strategy to force somebody to sell.

Say you hold 1000 lots and Q to sell at RM5.00. That's the lowest price anybody wanted to sell. Somebody Q at RM4.90 but couldn't get. So, that guy "kacau" the RM5.00 Q by buying 1 lot which happens to be yours! You end up with a partial match of 999 lots PLUS you would need to pay the commision. If the Q doesn't go up, then it is either you keep the 999 lots and pay the commision or you are force to sell at a lower price i.e. RM 4.90.

That's what I think anyway. Don't listen to me as I'm just a noob....  blush.gif
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