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 A.C.Ryan Playon!HD, Half-baked m-player, no BD-J or HD audio

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post Dec 14 2009, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Only_Human @ Dec 14 2009, 10:04 PM)
If i need record HD using PC , if there possible ?
my house is normal flat tv , can record HD right ?

wat i need and how much for the recoded or hardware ?
can list out the price and the guild ? i still newbie ~

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You are newbie alright, until post at the wrong thread biggrin.gif
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post Dec 16 2009, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(zainframe @ Dec 16 2009, 02:21 PM)
Guys,

Would anyone happen to know whether the internal HDD in the PlayOn unit is used for buffering when viewing media across the network? I have all my media on a file server and do not store any in the PlayOn unit. So far I've tried playing 1080p media from the server without installing a HDD in the PlayOn and it works fine without stuttering but dunno what will happen when the network is congested and the server is being accessed by other users.

If it doesnt use the internal HDD for buffering then I dont plan to install one.

Been Googling for this without any solid answer.
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shakehead.gif I don't know why you have to Google all over the world for an answer when just a logical short trip to AC Ryan's Playon!HD FAQ would have given you some insight.

"Can I install a harddisk with existing data into the Playon!HD as its internal harddisk?
You can, but your data will be erased. Once you install a harddisk (new or old, with or without existing data) and power up your Playon!HD for the first time, you will be asked for confirm to have your harddisk formatted. At this point you can proceed or stop. The harddisk needs to be formatted because Playon!HD will create hidden partitions (total of about 300mb only) for the system use (eg. buffering). You will not see this system-use hidden partition on the Playon!HD or on your computer. The main data area is formatted as NTFS.


When I connect Playon!HD to my computer with USB and check Disk Manager, why do I see 3 hidden partitions in addition to the main NTFS partition?"

The hidden partitions are created (total about 300mb) and used by the Playon!HD system eg. buffering for smoother network streaming when there is inconsistent speed in the network. Do not edit or delete these 3 hidden partitions.

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QUOTE(zainframe @ Dec 16 2009, 06:47 PM)
Play!On only has 100Mbps ethernet right? If it's connected to a 1Gbps switch it will still be 100Mpbs. But maybe a 1Gbps switch will reduce congestion on your overall network.


Added on December 16, 2009, 6:57 pm

rclxub.gif Hoho, dunno how I missed that  rolleyes.gif Anyways this means it's not a good idea to run it without HDD then. Thanks.
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You can always get an old/spare small capacity HD and install internally just for the buffering, just in case it comes in handy in the future.
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post Dec 17 2009, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Dec 17 2009, 04:54 PM)
But is it true that most newer movies have both Dolby and DTS?  I guess all will have Dolby TrueHD while some might also have DTS like those dvd.
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For Blu-ray movies most of the time it's either DTS-MA or True-HD, seldom both.

The POHD can't even recognise True-HD. Gives a "Unknown Audio Format" error. Not even downmixed to Stereo.

Thankfully nowadays DTS-MA is more available than True-HD. At least can hear the DTS 5.1 Core. If another 3 mths still not included in the firmware upgrades, then can say goodbye to HD Audio already.
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post Jan 7 2010, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Jan 6 2010, 09:55 PM)
Not much major improvements still no HD Audio....
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Can give up dreaming about HD Audio already .
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post Jan 7 2010, 11:04 PM

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I noticed new firmware now got adjustments for Hue and saturation, not that it matters to some people.

Also besides being able to play BD.iso in previous firmware , now BDMV folder also can be played automatically (previously have to select the largest file). Now when you select the BDV folder it asks you whether you want to browse the folder or play automatically thumbup.gif

I also feel that bootup and browsing is faster. The HDD plugin and USB plugin message is also quicker.

And another thing , I think (haven't tried extensively yet) the loss of sound problem which sometimes happens when you click on the file too soon, before the previews starts , is now no loger a problem. (Have to test more on this to make sure).

Next firmware, YAMJ coming up drool.gif

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DTS-MA and True-HD have to give up hope already. Last time AC Ryan advertised with the HD audio but now their website already removed the specs.


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QUOTE(hdwarexpert @ Jan 8 2010, 12:58 PM)
Ooohh.....can it downmix TrueHD as of latest FW?
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Maybe you are not reading me correctly . I just said can give up hope already biggrin.gif . What does that tell you.

Just in case you still don't get what I mean, no , TrueHD can't even get stereo sound, just like before.

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 8 2010, 01:07 PM)
biggrin.gif  people hopeful ma..
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I am now shooting down his hopes biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hdwarexpert @ Jan 8 2010, 02:02 PM)
Thanks for the shot!! As Xtreamer can downmix TrueHD.....but not bitstream HD audio.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Better, but if I were you I still wouldn't be satisfied until I get the real thing smile.gif


Added on January 8, 2010, 8:35 pm
QUOTE(echoesian @ Jan 8 2010, 02:41 PM)
Do I need to plug the internal HDD out first before update the firmware to prevent from the corruption of data like one of our users that had been experienced before?
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I upgraded from 2388 to 2901 without unplugging HD. No problems except you have to re-sync the video by pressing the TV Sys button.


Added on January 8, 2010, 8:48 pm
QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 8 2010, 07:28 PM)
I dunno what's the meaning of HD audi but all the movies that I played from AVI, MP4, MKV till TS got sound wor....

So meaning all the HD movies got sopund wan who say no HD audio
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Like AR188 said, you haven't tried the real thing yet.

Anyway even if by some miracle, POHD get to support HD audio someday, you still need the AVR with True-HD and DTS-MA decoders to get the full sound anyway.

I suggest you try the BDMV or ISO of Kung Fu Panda , the 1st audio track is a True-HD track. Then you willl know what the meannng of "Unknown Audio Format" from the POHD means biggrin.gif

Please don't try the MKV version because all MKV can't support Lossless HD Audio and is downgraded regular 5.1 sound.

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 9 2010, 09:39 AM)
bitamin M lah as in $$$  biggrin.gif

BTW, got few eggs.m2ts to try liao..suprisingly I thought that's the largest file compare to others such as Mkv/TS but it's smaller than mkv file...avg only 4-5GB  hmm.gif  To try this Evening... rclxms.gif  Meaning TS is the largest file in my eggs koleksyun  hmm.gif
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No point you try m2ts file if it doesn't have True-HD audio. A lot of them are in DTS-MA (which at least the POHD is able to play, but only the core (regular DTS) .

Find a Blu-ray BDMV with True-HD like the Kung Fu Panda I mentioned. The moment you play a True-HD audio track you will get a "Unknown Audio Format" message from your POHD (Even if you buy an amp with HD Audio Decoder there will be no sound. That's because the POHD doesn't even recognise the True-HD format..... until they solve the licensing problem i.e)

Btw a movie M2TS file averages 30GB wink.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 9 2010, 10:56 AM)
sigh. Means only xtreamer got sound cos can downmix.
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From the little I have read about xtreamer it is supposed to be able to downmix, but I don't really know whether regular 5.1 or just stereo.


Added on January 9, 2010, 11:04 am
QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 9 2010, 10:57 AM)
Ehh what is the file ext for this true BDMV file? Yeah I was wondering why m2TS file so small...As I know should be larger than TS...funni
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Have added to my post above smile.gif.

Actually BDMV is not a file. Rather it's the whole Disc contents (Folders and files) extracted from a Blu-Ray disc. With the latest firmware you just have to find and select the BDMV folder and the POHD can automatically make a guess and select the largest m2ts file (in the stream folder) to play. You are also given the option to manually find the largest file yourself.

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 9 2010, 11:05 AM)
should be stereo iirc.
Stim, your small file. Check time. Maybe 20min only leh for 4gb?
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AR, sent him one of your Blu-ray iso with True-HD lah, for testing. Bribe the moderator , then you can be given free reign over the Forum biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jan 13 2010, 12:49 PM)
Yeah but you can go to acryan forums and get unofficial hacked 2901 firmware which restores Youtube.
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They removed the posts regarding hacked firmware.


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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 13 2010, 12:51 PM)
BTW what's the reason for it?
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Maybe media players like POHD can't display adverts.

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Go to POHD forums and ask some members there for the links.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 17 2010, 11:29 PM)
OK, editing title now..since this one confirm can load menu..select chapters, change Audio, behind the scene & etc..yeah....
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Are you dreaming rclxub.gif . You sure you are not playing a DVD .iso ?

Do you know David Foster Blu-ray disc is around 40GB ? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 18 2010, 07:25 AM)
Can for sure esp those diff singers inside Act 2. But not sure whether it's BD java blu ray (What format is this??)...It's a 7.68GB ISO file for sure..

Add...just found out I also can choose the singers/song from Act 1 too  rclxm9.gif  Boyzz...me loving this David Foster's concert now...2nd to Celine Dion... rclxms.gif
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David Foster Blu-ray disc is around 40GB my friend biggrin.gif . You must be playing a DVD .iso

The POHD can only play BD.iso by automatically choosing the largest m2ts file in the BDMV/stream folder, nothing more.

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QUOTE(moomoos @ Jan 18 2010, 11:03 AM)
so in that case, press "skip" (next track) will exit to "main folder"  while playing a movie.... rite??
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Added on January 18, 2010, 11:12 amStimix should change back the Title to :-

"BD.iso (Quarter Baked)" biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 18 2010, 11:25 AM)
Well no idea whether it's a BD ISO or DVD ISO file. bcos only states David Foster & friends.iso ..That's why I asked Y'day  biggrin.gif

I thought it a scaled down verison something like MKV but using ISO format bcos from my understanding DVDriop rile only ~700mb to 1.3Gb nia  blush.gif  & the quality is not DVD crappy PQ for sure  hmm.gif

Hopefully I can get hold of a 40GB ISO file..my biggest Celine Dion only 35GB but not ISO ..only BDMV.  blush.gif
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ISO is an image of the original disc (whether DVD or Blu-ray). So if a DVD is dual layer - DVD9 (max approx 8.5BG) then the .iso file will also be in that size. Same for Blu-ray disc (Dual Layer Max 50GB)

Those 700mb DVD files you mentioned are only compressed and reduced in size and quality from original DVD.

On the other hand your David Foster .iso was probably a direct image of the original DVD.

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 18 2010, 11:56 AM)
So meaning POHD current version only can play DVD.iso & not BD.iso yet? haizzz.....But suprisingly the David Fister one crystal clear wor...dun feel DVD quality at all

OK will try getting BD ISO in future for testing..Or anyone here try b4 kah on the V2701 using BD.ISO?
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Like I mentioned before, It still can play BD.iso , but only in a simple way without the menus and all. (what I called Quarter baked biggrin.gif )

It does so by selecting the largest m2ts file to play. It just assumes the largest m2ts file is the main movie itself. If it not, then you won't be able to get the results you want.

If the whole movie is broken up into many smaller files and in different numerical order then it wouldn't be practical at all to play that movie.

The next step we are praying for with future firmware is at least for selection from the Menus (which means the POHD must be able to recognise the playlist files found in the BD.iso files)

btw, your Celine Dion BDMV is very similar to a BD.iso. It is just a BD.iso with all the contents extracted out in a form where you can see and browse manually.

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