TV1 12.30 AM

y u r so sure?

Yeap basically is within 13 minutes... correct me if i'm wrong... but i think i'm right

ok... watch tv for 15 minits then can go sleep tmr sch time!!

ada 2nd match patut beri tau pada hari sabtu di stadium..ramai orang out stations pun sudah balik kampung bila tamat pada hari sabtu lalu,macam mana nak penuhkan stadium?

I reach Bukit Jalil at 2nd half......still gotta pay RM 58 for entrance.
Scoreless in 2nd half.....

I'm sitting behind United goal, Malaysia have some chances but we did not scored.

TV1 12:30 am?
sure or not? dun gimme false hope.
I checked the intisari rancangan from 12 am - 1 am will show Berita Nasional.

tak dapat bagi tau time tu jugak bero..

diorang last min. kompemkan rematch dan mlm tu jugak diorang announce dlm website manutd.com

'United factor' provides funds
By Norman Hubbard


It has hardly been a summer to cheer many Manchester United fans, but this may have been a break to gladden the hearts of the Glazers. The Premier League champions' absentee owners require a vast income to service their debts after borrowing heavily to buy the club. The transfer window has, so far, revealed one guaranteed revenue stream. Selling Cristiano Ronaldo ensured the small matter of a £68m profit although, while he has pronounced himself reluctant to spend again this summer, that is apparently at Sir Alex Ferguson's disposal.

Campbell got his hands on the trophy in pre-season, but was never going to displace the likes of Wayne Rooney.
In addition, in keeping with a United tradition, fringe players have displayed their ability to boost the bank balance. Lee Martin has joined Ipswich (where there may soon be a contingent of exiles from Old Trafford thanks to Roy Keane's arrival), and Fraizer Campbell has signed for Sunderland, where there already is one. Among the British products of United's youth system who never became a first-team regular, Kieran Richardson has proved the most profitable, yielding £5.5m when he moved to Wearside. Should Campbell, whose £3.5m fee could rise to £6m, succeed at Sunderland, he will displace him.

But Campbell's credentials are questionable. He played a huge part in earning Hull promotion to the Premier League and threatened for England in the recent European Under-21 Championships before spoiling his contribution with a senseless sending off. However, he only mustered one league start in a season on loan at Tottenham and the sole occasion when he made Ferguson's initial 11 ended with his replacement by a right-back, Rafael da Silva, at a time when United were chasing a winner. So why, therefore, did he command a larger fee than Matt Derbyshire, an England Under-21 colleague with a superior record in both international and top-flight football?

The answer probably lies in the United factor. An education at Old Trafford is highly valued, and some managers appear to take it as a guarantee of prowess. Since Fergie's Fledglings emerged a decade and a half ago, presumptions have been made that those who have trodden the same path have similar attributes. A look at the graduates of United's academy suggests otherwise: they sometimes produce footballers of quality, but they invariably develop players in quantity. Having Manchester United in a prominent position on a CV, however, can be deceptive.

For instance, as wholehearted a competitor as Paul McShane is, there is nothing in his game to suggest he used to train with as classy a defender as Rio Ferdinand. Danny Higginbotham's enthusiastic but erratic attempts at passing do not immediately identify him as a former team-mate of Paul Scholes. Between them, however, they produced £4m for the club's coffers.

Both are among a group of yo-yo players that also includes Jonathan Greening, David Jones and David Healy who have spent their subsequent career veering between the Championship and the Premier League, the first team and the reserves (at least the latter has the consolation of an outstanding international record).

Others fare worse, their departure from Old Trafford precipitating a swift decline. John Curtis, a former England B international who is only 30, plays for Wrexham; Phil Mulryne is also in non-league football with King's Lynn; Ben Thornley, Michael Clegg, John O'Kane, Simon Davies and Alex Notman, were hampered by injuries and all retired from the professional game at comparatively early ages. In each case, the biggest fee they commanded was that paid to United. It is something the tribunal who determine Richard Eckersley's fee for his move to Burnley may consider.

Because men such as Ryan Shawcross and Chris Eagles, who have both benefited from transfers, are comparatively rare success stories. Like Martin, who had six loan spells while a United player, both were evidently surplus to requirements.

Nevertheless, there is a skill in coercing such sums for players who can barely glimpse the first team from their place in the pecking order. Campbell was, at best, sixth-choice striker, Martin still less likely to figure among the wingers. United are presumably the envy of their rivals in their ability to sell unwanted players for useful amounts.

But they are helped by Ferguson's considerable influence and the number of his charges with jobs in management. United, like most great clubs, can display an acute superiority complex. That is not meant as a criticism - a confidence bordering on arrogance has its advantages - but it can lead their former employees to assume all things United are preferable and that one of Ferguson's reserves is better than a first-team player elsewhere.

Gerard Pique returned to haunt United in the Champions League final.
Steve Bruce has signed Campbell, just as first Bryan Robson and then Roy Keane bought McShane. Indeed, the new Ipswich manager's fondness for the familiar is at odds with his fearless persona. Despite his United reunion at Sunderland, perhaps the most misguided piece of recruitment may have occurred at Middlesbrough. One of Steve McClaren's first acts upon taking charge was to pay £1.5m for Mark Wilson, when he also purchased Greening. The former left on a free transfer and only eventually flourished at Doncaster. Terry Cooke, who took six years to settle at another club (Colorado Rapids, in his case) is further proof that leaving Old Trafford can be a shock to the system.

The exceptions to the rule were two players who escaped United's old boys' network. Gerard Pique and Giuseppe Rossi, perhaps unlike some others schooled in Manchester, were not overrated on the basis of their old club. Unlike many others who left Old Trafford, they were undervalued when sold.

That cannot be said for the majority, and that suggests another windfall for United. Ferguson has a huge pool of players, many of whom may have to recognise the reality that they are unlikely to command a place at Old Trafford. Darron Gibson and Danny Simpson are the most obvious candidates to emulate Campbell and Martin and increase United's funds, but lesser-known players such as James Chester, David Gray, Tom Cleverley, Sam Hewson and Febian Brandy could do likewise.

However, would-be buyers would be advised to remember this: there is such a thing as a Manchester United player, but some are merely players who spent time at Manchester United.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...ansfers&cc=4716

aiyah..u tell the guards u support m'sia ,mayb can entry free.......

Yeah,Owen will definately score many goals this coming season PROVIDED he does not get injured!

Very very good investment buy SAF!

I don't believe Berbatov was ever meant to be our greedy player. When you see him playing in a withdrawn role last season, he's meant more as a playmaker. Rooney, Owen, etc are the ones who will lead the line while Berbatov plays behind the leading striker. That's what I think SAF will do.

lol funny man!!!!

haha... good one...

Owen... super grab for Manchester United...

wao..tomorrow..there gonna be a new page for Man UTD topic..
its gonna reach 125 within tonite, i believe alot of LYN member gonna post something to share here once they get back home from bukit jahlil..xD

Anybody here who went for the match just now?

Roughly how many fans were there in the stadium?

Was it as crowded as sat?

confirm ke ader delayed games kul 12.30 tv1? sape ckp?

half crowded only, seats behind goal post are all empty....

those 2 goals were free gift from malaysia defenders...

oh rly?