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SUSjasonhanjk
post Jul 14 2009, 03:21 PM

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It is not legal and people are being prosecuted in Singapore.

So far I have not heard any being prosecuted here in Malaysia.
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post Jul 14 2009, 04:23 PM

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Legal cost may not increase at all.

For my case:

Market rate RM120k
RM100k cost
Loan RM100k
SAP stated RM120k

In the event SAP stated RM100k, tax will still base on RM120k market rate.
Just in case the seller decide to pull something dirty, I got a cover letter stating selling price is only RM100k and not RM120k stated in the SAP.
That letter cost me RM250.
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post Jul 14 2009, 04:28 PM

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Sorry to ks you. (kill steal) biggrin.gif
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post Jul 14 2009, 05:03 PM

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Of course, there is still another way to get a full loan.

Purchase the property with cash and re-furnish the place.
Get an evaluation with a higher price and re-finance it.
Ongkl have done it if you visited his blog, he got the cash by working with other investors.

Do note also, re-financing a property will prevent you getting the tax advantage of counting interest payment as an expense. Also stated in his blog.
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post Jul 14 2009, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Jul 14 2009, 05:06 PM)
Boon, good sharing. Thanks !

My friend just sharing with me, if to extra more cash, another legal way is to refinance after SPA. But
this will incur extra cost (but very subjective, some bank offer zero entry cost). This is legal and can get
extra cash. Any comment on this idea ?


Added on July 14, 2009, 5:09 pm

If the purchase property below market value, then can consider to refinance again. Not sure anyone doing this ?
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His property is not purchase below market price but at market price.
He put a lot of money into renovating / furnishing to push the value up.
Hence getting a higher loan.

Zero cost loan maybe the answer but I have not done that before.

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post Jul 14 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 14 2009, 10:27 PM)
chief, the above seems bizarre. Whats the point of pushing the value up if he has to put plenty of his own cash as well?  hmm.gif
Btw TS, can tell you right away that what you intend to do here is defo ILLEGAL. Should you are caught, implications could be quite severe.
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Return of Investment of Cash on Cash Return exceeds 20%.
His rental per month increase to RM1300 fully furnish from the normal RM600 non furnish.

I bought the same apartment as his, literally his my neighbor. tongue.gif

The link to his blog.
http://reijb.com/increase-return-investment-property/
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post Jul 15 2009, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 14 2009, 11:48 PM)

hm, COCR exceeds 20% is not too bad, but how much was his total acquisition cost + reno + furnishing?
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RM125k cost for the apartment.
Furnishing cost, legal and brokerage fees to RM14,000 and RM5700 respectively.
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post Jul 16 2009, 12:15 PM

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On the side note.

Singaporean buyers mark up the selling price so that they can withdraw more money from their CPF. While giving a portion to the agent.

This infuriate the Pay And Pay government.
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post Jul 17 2009, 05:08 PM

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Here is another legal method, seller finance.

Normally you as a buyer, would need to fork out 10% and the bank pay the other 90%; to the seller.

What you need to do is ask the seller to pay for that 10% first and pay him back using installment. The SAP price still remain the same but you manage to borrow 100%.
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post Jul 17 2009, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 17 2009, 06:07 PM)
jason, how does this benefits the seller?  hmm.gif
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Take a loan from the seller, pay him back in 5 years time with 5% interest or even higher.
It's definitely better for the seller to put the money back in the bank for 2.5% FD and he got his property sold. rclxms.gif

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post Jul 19 2009, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(meejawa @ Jul 18 2009, 10:17 PM)
Pai, dat fella read too much richdadpoordad d laa...in la la land..
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The author this time is not Robert Kiyosaki, it's Dr. Dolf De Roos from Australia. thumbup.gif

Robert will emphasize a lot on coming up with that down payment.
He believe if one cannot fork out that money, there is something wrong with his / her financials.


Added on July 19, 2009, 10:00 am
QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 17 2009, 11:27 PM)
wonder if any seller in MY would take this option.......they must be dem desperate. Need to more for legal fees somemore... hmm.gif
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You mean the legal fees for the seller?
Which are?


Added on July 19, 2009, 10:02 am
QUOTE(invest2229 @ Jul 18 2009, 11:24 PM)
But at least is another option ... but I will not do it this way..  tongue.gif
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You may need to ask the lawyer how to draft out this agreement between you and the seller. blush.gif
Go get good competent advise.

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post Jul 19 2009, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Jul 19 2009, 03:30 PM)
I got different opinion. Even I got cash, I will not dump all into one single investment. I will minimise the cash out
for my investment to the minimum, then I will use this cash for other investment. I think this is the best and faster
way we can get more properties with short period.

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The fastest buying record I know is 20 unit in 18 months.
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The youngest investor to buy a house is age 17.

Just remember to have some reserve in case it went wrong. icon_idea.gif

 

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