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TSAl@n2rock
post Jul 14 2009, 10:32 AM, updated 10y ago

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Hi All,

As the topic, smile.gif

Is 100% Whey protein gold standard have its own Certified Halal?, i try to search for two day now,
still cant find the right answer blush.gif

need to know is this whey protein is halal or not nod.gif

Pls someone can help me with this... notworthy.gif

Highly Appreciates
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yalah... i'm oso been trying to gather info but still... ???
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post Jul 14 2009, 10:46 AM

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Any one might knows,

or have related source about it, please share happy.gif

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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Jul 14 2009, 10:32 AM)
Hi All,

As the topic,  smile.gif

Is 100% Whey protein have its own Certified Halal?, i try to search for two day now,
still cant find the right answer  blush.gif

need to know is this whey protein is halal or not  nod.gif

Pls someone can help me with this...  notworthy.gif

Highly Appreciates
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actually which brand of whey u refer to..as certain company whey product is target to all consumer which include Muslim shd have the halal sign on it. if you cant find it on the label..then better don't take the risk sweat.gif

some additional reading click me...seem like most of the whey didnt obtain a halal sign..one the user suggested that if you really care..then just drink milk instead of whey.. wink.gif

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Good thread bro...here's some guide and knowledge about halal whey...some releases by ifanca...

I found these archive at bb.com...

let us do more research !!


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QUOTE(diablokun @ Jul 14 2009, 11:19 AM)
Good thread bro...here's some guide and knowledge about halal whey...some releases by ifanca...

I found these archive at bb.com...

let us do more research !!
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from the article...seem like only the herbal* whey protein is certified halal...lol~
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jul 14 2009, 11:07 AM)
actually which brand of whey u refer to..as certain company whey product is target to all consumer which include Muslim shd have the halal sign on it. if you cant find it on the label..then better don't take the risk  sweat.gif

some additional reading click me...seem like most of the whey didnt obtain a halal sign..one the user suggested that if you really care..then just drink milk instead of whey..  wink.gif
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am refering to 100% Gold Standard, coz i already bought one 5Lbs tub doh.gif

now am searching for a proof that said this product is Halal blush.gif

adushhh..... sweat.gif

Ni la jadi bila tak gelojoh beli suppliment doh.gif blush.gif

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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Jul 14 2009, 11:32 AM)
am refering to 100% Gold Standard, coz i already bought one 5Lbs tub  doh.gif

now am searching for a proof that said this product is Halal  blush.gif

adushhh..... sweat.gif 

Ni la jadi bila tak gelojoh beli suppliment  doh.gif  blush.gif
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ON is not certified halal....if you read the article in the link given above..you will see a forumer already email to ON and the reply is not certified halal...maybe you shd take the initiative to email ON again on this issue? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jul 14 2009, 11:41 AM)
ON is not certified halal....if you read the article in the link given above..you will see a forumer already email to ON and the reply is not certified halal...maybe you shd take the initiative to email ON again on this issue? laugh.gif
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Arrghhhhh sad.gif

What a waste doh.gif wink.gif


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Its probrably a marketing strategy to target halal concious people, its a 3 trillion business yearly cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Jul 14 2009, 11:46 AM)
Arrghhhhh  sad.gif

What a waste  doh.gif  wink.gif
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Will email ON by today sad.gif
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Jul 14 2009, 11:47 AM)
Will email ON by today  sad.gif
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oridy emailed, now wait for the reply...............
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You can send it to me if you're not going to drink it.
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Why not halal. It's derived from milk.
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jul 14 2009, 12:48 PM)
Why not halal. It's derived from milk.
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what was used during the process and how they do it is important bro...not as simple as that...

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Is there halal milk?

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jul 14 2009, 01:29 PM)
Is there halal milk?
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sure...milk on the supermarket shelf all halal 1 la....
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bro... just take it... as long u dont know its ok.
hahaha... wat u dont know dont hurt u. =.=
stay ignorant... wakkakakak...
just kidding.
i want to know it too, for my general knowledge..
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Jul 14 2009, 10:32 AM)
Hi All,

As the topic,  smile.gif

Is 100% Whey protein gold standard have its own Certified Halal?, i try to search for two day now,
still cant find the right answer  blush.gif

need to know is this whey protein is halal or not  nod.gif

Pls someone can help me with this...  notworthy.gif

Highly Appreciates
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AFAIK, only Horleys certified Halal here.

QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jul 14 2009, 12:48 PM)
Why not halal. It's derived from milk.
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Rennet used in the process count too.. lol


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It may be a good idea if you guys also look into what does being Halal certified really means. So that you folks do have the same understanding. Before asking whether whey protein is halal or not.

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QUOTE(myremi @ Jul 14 2009, 02:57 PM)
It may be a good idea if you guys also look into what does being Halal certified really means. So that you folks do have the same understanding. Before asking whether whey protein is halal or not.
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Halal is an Arabic word meaning lawful or permitted. The opposite of halal is haram, which means unlawful or prohibited. Halal and haram are universal terms that apply to all facets of life. However, we will use these terms only in relation to food products, meat products, cosmetics, personal care products, food ingredients, and food contact materials.

While many things are clearly halal or clearly haram, there are some things which are not clear. These items are considered questionable or suspect and more information is needed to categorize them as halal or haram. Such items are often referred to as mashbooh, which means doubtful or questionable.

All foods are considered halal except the following, which are haram:

    * Swine/pork and its by-products
    * Animals improperly slaughtered or dead before slaughtering
    * Animals killed in the name of anyone other than ALLAH (God)
    * Alcohol and intoxicants
    * Carnivorous animals, birds of prey and land animals without external ears
    * Blood and blood by-products
    * Foods contaminated with any of the above products

Foods containing ingredients such as gelatin, enzymes, emulsifiers, etc. are questionable (mashbooh) because the origin of these ingredients is not known.


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UN whey certified halal by IFANCA...

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bro..if u are skeptical bout it..then better don't use it..i'm also currently using ON Whey and i confident with it even though the status is still not clear...tawakal je lah....


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Thanks dokidoki , thats is a good explaination what Halal means happy.gif

we(Muslim) cannot simply eat things that we not know what the source

heheheh thats why am searching for the right product too telan,

thanks to Bata, now i know Horleys certified Halal.....
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whey protein source from cow milk is sure halal but the process to make whey from it, that the main concern.

just drink milk, i m growing and strong wat.. although sloww.. but still gain n i think better than someone take whey protein monthly basis..
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QUOTE(coolz_iced @ Jul 14 2009, 03:40 PM)
whey protein source from cow milk is sure halal but the process to make whey from it, that the main concern.

just drink milk, i m growing and strong wat.. although sloww.. but still gain n i think better than someone take whey protein monthly basis..
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"i think better than someone take whey protein monthly basis.."

Lucky i can't understand what he means by that. tongue.gif
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Not all Whey is Made the Same Way

To be sure it is halal, stick to certified whey.

By Syed Rasheeduddin Ahmed
Posted: 27 Jamad-ul-Awwal 1422, 17 August 2001

Whey is the watery portion of milk remaining after milk coagulation and removal of the curd. Whey can be obtained by acid, heat, and rennet coagulation of milk. There are two types of whey.

Sweet Whey: Sweet whey is manufactured during making of rennet type hard cheese like cheddar or Swiss cheese.

Acid Whey: Acid whey (also known as sour whey) is obtained during making of acid type of cheese such as cottage cheese.

In addition to its liquid form, whey is also produced in the following solid forms:

Whey solids or powder: This is obtained by drying the liquid whey and used as milk replacement in bakery products, ice cream, dry mixes and beverages.

Whey Protein Concentrate: is the dry portion of whey obtained by the removal of sufficient non-protein constituents from whey so that the dry product contains not less than 25% protein.

Most of the whey used in different food products is obtained as sweet whey from rennet types of hard cheeses.

Whey is concentrated to obtain sweet/acid whey powder, condensed whey, Delactose powder as the primary products and protein, lactose as secondary products.Composition of Whey
Fluid
Sweet Whey Fluid
Acid Whey Dried
Sweet Whey Dried
Acid Whey
Total Solid 6.35 6.50 96.5 96
Moisture 93.70 93.50 3.5 4
Fat 0.5 0.04 0.8 0.6
Protein 0.80 0.75 13.1 12.5
Lactose 4.85 4.90 75 67.4
Ash 0.50 0.80 7.3 11.8
Lactic Acid 0.05 0.40 0.2 4.2


(Source: Cheese and Fermented Milk Foods by Frank Kosikowski)

Fundamentals of Whey Making

The procedure of whey making is similar to cheese making until the curd is formed. It starts with propagating the mother cultures (cultures are actually microorganism such as bacteria) on media (media is food material providing protein, fat, carbohydrate and nutrients to bacterial cultures) and followed by bulk culture propagating on media. The bulk cultures are added to the milk and then rennet preparation is added to milk to form curd in case of sweet whey. The whey is separated and dried.
Most of the whey used in different food products is obtained as sweet whey from rennet types of hard cheeses.


For acid whey, lactic acid mother cultures are grown on media and then bulk culture are propagated and added to skim milk to make cottage cheese (cottage cheese is also made with the use of rennet). Whey is separated after curd formation and dried as a powder.

Halal Status of Whey

The media and the type of rennet may influence the halal status of whey produced from them. The following are the requirements for us to be completely sure that the whey is halal:
Mother culture media has to be halal.
Bulk culture media has to be halal.
Microbial rennet preparation has to be used.
Dryers where liquid whey is dried to make whey solid or powder should not be used to dry animal based media and rennet whey to avoid contamination.

It is advised that we restrict ourselves to Only halal or kosher certified whey as shown by the halal or kosher symbols such as UD, KD, and COR. Non-halal or Kosher certified whey made even with non-animal based media and microbial rennet is not recommended because the cheese manufacturer can change the media and rennet source any time without notifying Muslim consumers.
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QUOTE(W.A.SP @ Jul 14 2009, 03:35 PM)
UN whey certified halal by IFANCA...

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bro..if u are skeptical bout it..then better don't use it..i'm also currently using ON Whey and i confident with it even though the status is still not clear...tawakal je lah....
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same as me...tawakal je lah...eeheh
some makers got Halal certs by IFANCA or FSF USA
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Jul 14 2009, 03:39 PM)
Thanks dokidoki , thats is a good explaination what Halal means happy.gif

we(Muslim) cannot simply eat things that we not know what the source

heheheh thats why am searching for the right product too telan,

thanks to Bata, now i know Horleys certified Halal.....
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IIRC, MSN used Horleys, so if the distributor want to supply to governments of course they have to take care such things.
hehehe...biasa la politik.
if you want Halal whey, you better bet will be NZ or AUs whey, since they have bigger population of Muslim.
forr US makers, they usually didnt care lah...hehehe...
later la i beg them to apply... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(bata @ Jul 14 2009, 05:03 PM)
same as me...tawakal je lah...eeheh
some makers got Halal certs by IFANCA or FSF USA
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IIRC, MSN used Horleys, so if the distributor want to supply to governments of course they have to take care such things.
hehehe...biasa la politik.
if you want Halal whey, you better bet will be NZ or AUs whey, since they have bigger population of Muslim.
forr US makers, they usually didnt care lah...hehehe...
later la i beg them to apply... tongue.gif
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threaten them if they dont apply halal..you wouldnt distribute their whey in Malaisia~
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I'm sure they'll be deeply affected and uncompromisingly apolegetic.

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Horley's stuff freakin expensive leh... I'm using their creatine now. Super small tub already 80+. Going for UN next time.
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yes horleys is halal. But whey protein isolate from horleys is damn expensive. Just take the concentrate la what to do
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horleys product is certified halal.. thats why u can find it easily on some farmacies in Malaysia
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yo TS...have ON replied your email ??
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I was gonna buy ON's whey but now that I read this post, I am having second thought.
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If there's no halal certificate, then it's most probably is not halal. if they don't know about it, they will still say not halal to be conservative.

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just sent them an email...hope they will reply soonest possible...as for the meantime, me and friends all put ON's whey on KIV... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 14 2009, 10:57 PM)
If there's no halal certificate, then it's most probably is not halal. if they don't know about it, they will still say not halal to be conservative.
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not really. Halal certs is only certs. Its still halal if didnt have certs, but all ingredients n the rennet used is halal. Of course they will say not halal if they didnt really understand.

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you can try local one, Uno nutritions and E-Excel. not sure they already apply or not


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QUOTE(bata @ Jul 15 2009, 12:00 AM)
not really. Halal certs is only certs. Its still halal if didnt have certs, but all ingredients n the rennet used is halal. Of course they will say not halal if they didnt really understand.

to TS,
you can try local one, Uno nutritions and E-Excel. not sure they already apply or not
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Uno Nutrition and E-Excel are already certified halal. Also, they are not that expensive. You can check out http://www.unonutrition.com. I can guarantee you personally that their products are just as good as those americans brand and in fact they even taste better because i am using them. and heck yes, i am growing.
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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Jul 15 2009, 12:36 AM)
Uno Nutrition and E-Excel are already certified halal. Also, they are not that expensive. You can check out http://www.unonutrition.com. I can guarantee you personally that their products are just as good as those americans brand and in fact they even taste better because i am using them. and heck yes, i am growing.
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webbies inaccessible lah bro...anyway try one more tomoro...thanks a lot for the info bro...!!

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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Jul 15 2009, 12:36 AM)
Uno Nutrition and E-Excel are already certified halal. Also, they are not that expensive. You can check out http://www.unonutrition.com. I can guarantee you personally that their products are just as good as those americans brand and in fact they even taste better because i am using them. and heck yes, i am growing.
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jul 15 2009, 01:48 AM)
Uno nutrition gives you wings like a flying fox.
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was that a joke or sarcasm? sry, i cant tell the difference. brain functions slowing down because im on a low carb diet. nationals in a week's time.
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Look at your lats of yours, you wouldn't need a parachute to skydive, just glide with your lats.

No sarcasm here. Mad love.

Good luck @ nationals!
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wink.gif Reply From ON :-



Dear Alan,

Thank you for choosing Optimum Nutrition to help you create your bigger picture. While the product is not certified Halal at this time, it does not contain any animal products or by products except for the whey itself which is derived from dairy (cow’s milk).

Best of health!

Rebecca Johnsen
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Optimum Nutrition/American Body Building
1-800-705-5226

From: alan.zulkhairi@prudential.com.my [mailto:alan.zulkhairi@prudential.com.my]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:02 PM
To: Consumer
Subject: 100% Whey Gold Standard


Added on July 15, 2009, 8:01 am

Well....have to start servey for Uno Nutrition and E-Excel product happy.gif

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I'm eyeing for e-excel whey protein also. It's quite cheap compared to horleys. If it don't contain artificial sweetener then it's good. Maybe go there buy. 15% discount biggrin.gif
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yea dude. go to the gym and buy, at least can get 15% discount and get to meet Terry himself. just say you are iqbal's friend and referred by me and he might serve you better.
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yea dude. go to the gym and buy, at least can get 15% discount and get to meet Terry himself. just say you are iqbal's friend and referred by me and he might serve you better.
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mane ade bro. saje nk tolong sifu aku in any way i can. i owe him big time man. wouldnt even had the guts to compete if it wasnt for him. haha. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 15 2009, 08:13 AM)
I'm eyeing for e-excel whey protein also. It's quite cheap compared to horleys. If it don't contain artificial sweetener then it's good. Maybe go there buy. 15% discount biggrin.gif
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add in abit extra water la. any protein also you take if too thick sure damn sweet. you should try the choc mint flavor. SUPER NICE!
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How much water/milk you add when you mix it with protein? Btw, is e-excel really good? My trainer is the one that sell it to me. How much you guys buy it for? See whether he con me anot.
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is there any halal certified casein and creatine in Malaysia ?

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dudes
just another one
ive been using this below the radar brand for 1 year + already
scivation whey is halal as per their company's rep email i emailed them but no certification
i even dared to ask them to certify...hehe
they replied during weekends dudes
hahaha
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Jul 15 2009, 07:58 AM)
wink.gif Reply From ON :-
Dear Alan,

Thank you for choosing Optimum Nutrition to help you create your bigger picture.  While the product is not certified Halal at this time, it does not contain any animal products or by products except for the whey itself which is derived from dairy (cow’s milk).

Best of health!

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From: alan.zulkhairi@prudential.com.my [mailto:alan.zulkhairi@prudential.com.my]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:02 PM
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Subject: 100% Whey Gold Standard


Added on July 15, 2009, 8:01 am

Well....have to start servey for Uno Nutrition and E-Excel product happy.gif
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isn't rennet needed for curdling the milk to obtain whey? then how can there be no animal products?
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QUOTE(fubu233 @ Jul 25 2009, 08:57 PM)
isn't rennet needed for curdling the milk to  obtain whey? then how can there be no animal products?
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im also searching for a halal whey.. horleys is in my first list but the price, aduh sakit laa.. mahal tapi dapat sikit...

if ON's whey is halal and doesn't contain any animal products, for sure im getting it since its cheaper than horleys
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check out the whey introduce by registryediter. The muscle whey. It's certified halal and cheaper. I don't know if it contain artificial sweetener or not. still waiting for the reply from Terry. If no artificial sweetener, i will consider buying this to replace my horleys whey
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How much the mucle whey cost?
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refer to here http://www.unonutrition.com/index.php?page...emart&Itemid=64

if you go directly there got 15% discount. Btw i don't if it's whey isolate or concentrate
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is it that important if it is whey isolate or concentrate ??
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is it that important if it is whey isolate or concentrate ??
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hey guys,

i emailed ON and their customer service replied this:

Thank you for choosing Optimum Nutrition to help you create your bigger picture. At this time, none of our products are certified "kosher". However, the rennet used in the production of whey protein is either synthetically and/or fungally derived. There are no animal products or by-products in our Whey Gold Standard save for the whey itself which is derived from cow's milk (dairy).

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so since they use synthetically created rennet's and not the ones from animals, im positively confidence its halal to consume.

I've also found this great article i wanna share

http://www.musclepowershop.com/2009/05/are...akes-halal.html

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how about GNC Whey?
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im not sure about that whey bro. why don't u try to email them about it
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too bad ON non halal, if want sell cheap cheap let me know ya, haha.
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why is that? Halal or not doesnt not mean it must have HALAL stamped sijil.
why people questioned on halal whey, if cheese also used the same kinda process, and mind you plenty of cheese out there didnt even have halal certs but ppl still buy without doubt


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It may be a good idea if you guys also look into what does being Halal certified really means. So that you folks do have the same understanding. Before asking whether whey protein is halal or not.
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yup yup... not all halal certification standards are the same... a friend tried importing some food stuff over from the phillipines to be sold here. Certified halal by the authorities over there but cannot get halal cert here...

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guys..sometimes even with certs, there are products which are not halal. Remember there were a few cases that came out in tv3 news couple years back.

anyways..as for me, for some products even if dont have the halal cert, do check out the ingredients la..if all the ingredients doesnt contain haram stuff, then just tawakal(depend to God) and eat. Although how the food is processed/made also matters, in some cases sometimes you just cant find out how the food is processed.

else how la want to travel to other countries and find food to eat.

of course if you can find halal food, definately go for it.
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agree to ascii, whey just a protein without meat inside. should be ok.
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I know this is an old topic, but I want to put an end to this.

Whey are obtained by coagulating dairy product. So it is HALAL.

To do this, an enzyme called Rennet are used.

Rennet, however, are obtained in animals stomach. It is HALAL.

BUT, what if the animal was not properly Slaughtered according to Islam? It is still, HALAL.

Here's why, Rennet does not have blood passing through it, it is not alive. So, regardless of how the animal is slaughtered. It is still HALAL.

Simply put, you can consume Rennet as long as it doesn't derive from pig.
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Benblitz your answer is the most awesome of all. LOL
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yea~ so..get ur whey, fast!
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Benblitz your answer is the most awesome of all. LOL
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QUOTE(BuilderBalls @ May 17 2010, 07:07 PM)
yea~ so..get ur whey, fast!
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Yep, will get my whey after deloading. biggrin.gif

BTW, bro, nais price u have, but am still surveying.
Chances are I'll be buying some products from you biggrin.gif
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and so this dilemma ends!  biggrin.gif
Yep, will get my whey after deloading. biggrin.gif

BTW, bro, nais price u have, but am still surveying.
Chances are I'll be buying some products from you  biggrin.gif
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dude, no offence but i realise every post u make here is about advertising ur supplements, i mean it's cheap one thing but imagine all the LYN sellers do the same thing here.
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Whey is just whey, milk. Protein. It is halal. All my friend is Muslim and we all drink that ON brand. So, less question, more lifting!!!
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Yeah, and now rennet is usually synthetically derived
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So ts, what is your opinion now? mind to share with us?
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Great post!

Err... i just bought ON Whey Protein...
Consume few days already...

Since there's no confirmation on HALAL, i'm not going to use it anymore.
If you're in doubt (was-was), don't consume it.

Now it's time to shop for a new Whey protein..
Any suggestion?

(God, forgive me for consuming it without checking it out first)

p/s: If anybody want the 4/5 full on my ON 100% Gold Whey (Mocha flavor), do let me know.
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u got to be kidding me.
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QUOTE(joxen @ May 20 2010, 11:26 AM)
Great post!

Err... i just bought ON Whey Protein...
Consume few days already...

Since there's no confirmation on HALAL, i'm not going to use it anymore.
If you're in doubt (was-was), don't consume it.

Now it's time to shop for a new Whey protein..
Any suggestion?

(God, forgive me for consuming it without checking it out first)

p/s: If anybody want the 4/5 full on my ON 100% Gold Whey (Mocha flavor), do let me know.
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Yes sir, halalness is pretty much personal.

If there's a halal sign and you was-was, it's haram for you. Even if the food is halal and you was-was.. its haram for you

Thats why I prefer to study the ingredients than relying on halal certs smile.gif
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u know wat, i think 99% of whey outside there do not have halal sign.
u must as well stick to solid food diet then.
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u know wat, i think 99% of whey outside there do not have halal sign.
u must as well stick to solid food diet then.
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That's why I gotta find the Whey with Halal cert.
Agree, Horley is the most expensive Whey in the market..
But it tastes nice..

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QUOTE(Syd G @ May 20 2010, 11:37 AM)
Yes sir, halalness is pretty much personal.

If there's a halal sign and you was-was, it's haram for you. Even if the food is halal and you was-was.. its haram for you

Thats why I prefer to study the ingredients than relying on halal certs smile.gif
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In contrary, from my Google searching:

http://al-sistani.org/local.php?lang=en&mo...bid=53&pid=2816

Check out the point 21:

Whey (in all forms): It comes from milk and is used as binder and flavouring agent. It is halãl
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just gunakan tanpa was-was..

btw, universal nutrition product has been tagged halal..
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QUOTE(BuilderBalls @ May 20 2010, 12:26 PM)
just gunakan tanpa was-was..

btw, universal nutrition product has been tagged halal..
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Ultimate Nutrition maybe?

http://www.ifanca.org/products/search/

Choose from the "Any Manufacturer" for "Ultimate Nutrition". You'll see MuscleJuice 2544, and ProStar Whey listed. Ifanca stands for Islamic Food and Nutrition Council of America, one that provides halal certs for nutritions in America.

Horley's certs, I believe is one from New Zealand.
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Ultimate Nutrition maybe?

http://www.ifanca.org/products/search/

Choose from the "Any Manufacturer" for "Ultimate Nutrition". You'll see MuscleJuice 2544, and ProStar Whey listed. Ifanca stands for Islamic Food and Nutrition Council of America, one that provides halal certs for nutritions in America.

Horley's certs, I believe is one from New Zealand.
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kak syd g
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im siding wif gto...hehehe....
u know what, i think its funny people the people tht care so much abt Halal things but at the same time drinking alcohols in the clubs. hehe


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Thats why I prefer to study the ingredients than relying on halal certs smile.gif
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Thread revived! biggrin.gif

BTW, I 100% agree with you. Optimum Nutrition doesn't have halal cert but it is in fact, HALAL.

So, anyone want to ask other brand? We can discuss it here and let people decide
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im siding wif gto...hehehe....
u know what, i think its funny people the people tht care so much abt Halal things but at the same time drinking alcohols in the clubs. hehe
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I want Horley... but too expensive... hehe..
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Yes ON is halal for me. Gunakan tanpa was was hahaha. How about muscle tech. I think if you send email to them, i am sure they will try to get the certificate. this is the time to lure more customer i think. anyone want to send email to on to ask them to get the certificate?
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im siding wif gto...hehehe....
u know what, i think its funny people the people tht care so much abt Halal things but at the same time drinking alcohols in the clubs. hehe
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because that one tanpa was-was is non-halal. lol
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hahaha. nice one. really pity la this kind of guy. Follow some but ignore some. Absolute fail. doh.gif
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Dear TS,

As a Muslim, it is WAJIB for us to seek halalness in things that we consume. Sadly this is not a fully islamic world, thus instead of relying on a halal sign, I agree with what Syd G had comment above.

We need to read the content of the product before we consume them. Nevertheless don't assume something is haram or feel was-was if the product does not have a halal sign. It might be of vegetable origins smile.gif
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ May 21 2010, 09:34 AM)
Dear TS,

As a Muslim, it is WAJIB for us to seek halalness in things that we consume. Sadly this is not a fully islamic world, thus instead of relying on a halal sign, I agree with what Syd G had comment above.

We need to read the content of the product before we consume them. Nevertheless don't assume something is haram or feel was-was if the product does not have a halal sign. It might be of vegetable origins smile.gif
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true tat.
it just baffled me how fast he jumped into conclusion and decided to even sell his whey when he could have done some homework on whey rather than seek for forgiveness from god.

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 21 2010, 09:42 AM)
true tat.
it just baffled me how fast he jumped into conclusion and decided to even sell his whey when he could have done some homework on whey rather than seek for forgiveness from god.
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Homework done.. but skipped the information on Rennet and the equipment used...
In general whey is derived from milk... but the problem is the the process in the making..
It might be mixed with the other arguable sources..

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Homework done.. but skipped the information on Rennet and the equipment used...
In general whey is derived from milk... but the problem is the the process in the making..
It might be mixed with the other arguable sources..

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if you read this thread form the start smile.gif

Thank you for choosing Optimum Nutrition to help you create your bigger picture. At this time, none of our products are certified "kosher". However, the rennet used in the production of whey protein is either synthetically and/or fungally derived. There are no animal products or by-products in our Whey Gold Standard save for the whey itself which is derived from cow's milk (dairy).

Best of health!

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QUOTE(bata @ May 21 2010, 12:34 PM)
if you read this thread form the start smile.gif

Thank you for choosing Optimum Nutrition to help you create your bigger picture. At this time, none of our products are certified "kosher". However, the rennet used in the production of whey protein is either synthetically and/or fungally derived. There are no animal products or by-products in our Whey Gold Standard save for the whey itself which is derived from cow's milk (dairy).

Best of health!

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Didn't know this thread exist until it's being revived.

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haha, its ok. most of sales reps actually helpful enough to answer our questions. this is what i like about US based comps wink.gif
hope that clears your doubt eh wink.gif

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If ON Whey not halal, I'll be damned. Already finished 2 tubs. LOL.
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If ON Whey not halal, I'll be damned. Already finished 2 tubs. LOL.
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So, u r making conclusion that ON whey is non halal?
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is creatine halal?
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Gone is gone. Let's start a new whey.

*I just bought 2lbs Ultimate Nutrition Prostar (Choc) at Egonutritions
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creatine can be found in fish. however, most creatine nowadays are synthetically derived. So, it is HALAL. smile.gif
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I already bought the big packet, the refill I think you call it. Lol. Still got about 1/2 more. Anyways, I'm not doubting it. I believe if it's not halal, someone would already made a huge commotion about it openly sold on shelves without proper signage. LOL.
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rofl, this thread is pointless.

Is creatine halal? what about NO? mass gainer? bcaa also derived from whey, how about that?? WATER???
no matter how much we explain, in the end it is a very personal thing.

but I will say this, half the things we eat outside, we dont know where it came from. Ppl can claim anything, but human beings aren't perfect nor 100% honest. End of the day, its up to you to decide where you draw your lines.
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QUOTE(tineagle @ May 21 2010, 11:44 PM)
rofl, this thread is pointless.

Is creatine halal? what about NO? mass gainer? bcaa also derived from whey, how about that?? WATER???
no matter how much we explain, in the end it is a very personal thing.

but I will say this, half the things we eat outside, we dont know where it came from.  Ppl can claim anything, but human beings aren't perfect nor 100% honest.  End of the day, its up to you to decide where you draw your lines.
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QUOTE(benblitz @ May 21 2010, 11:16 PM)
creatine can be found in fish. however, most creatine nowadays are synthetically derived. So, it is HALAL.  smile.gif
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i thought its beef. haha. thanks for enlightening

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How much you bought it? Thinking of getting one too.
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Its ok. There is a thing called opinions. Each person have one right. I respect your stance TS. Thanks for opening this topic up.
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so the ultimate nutrition prostar whey chocolate flavour also got halal cert ? I tot only natural flavour is halal cert. I got to email ON 1 more time to confirm bata's post biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ May 22 2010, 10:48 PM)
so the ultimate nutrition prostar whey chocolate flavour also got halal cert ? I tot only natural flavour is halal cert. I got to email ON 1 more time to confirm bata's post biggrin.gif
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Got Halal certification from USA.

Go to http://www.ifanca.org/products/search/

Look for Ultimate Nutrition
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Ultimate Nutrition always go for two main flavour, vanilla and choc. Their whey and weight gainer like that.

Thought of buying the ProStar Whey, but instead found an unopen tube of UN Protein Isolate bought by my dad last year. Its for vegan. But the taste with plain water is just horrible. I just don't do good with vanilla.
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keh keh keh havent finish bout this meh~~~
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QUOTE(BuilderBalls @ May 23 2010, 01:43 AM)
keh keh keh havent finish bout this meh~~~
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this thread will nvr b closed unless all the 99% of whey brand in the market out there get their halal cert. otherwise another newbie will come and revive this thread and ask if this *** brand halal.

since not all ppl can accept food made from even dairy products as HALAL, i certainly dun see an end to this.
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ape susah...yang ada persaan was was, dont take whey la..take eggs, chicken, meat..etc2..yang cool with it, continue je la
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ade whey di perbuat dari susu babi ke? or susu lembu yg tak sembelih? of course la tak sembelih lol
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No personal bashing guys.

Pls keep the thread clean.
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@taohannan

this ain't kopitiam, u know.
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QUOTE(taohannan @ May 23 2010, 06:31 PM)
ade whey di perbuat dari susu babi ke? or susu lembu yg tak sembelih? of course la tak sembelih lol
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yep. Milk clot. please google
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wow ballbuilder dah jadi pembekal supplement ? Where do you train now ballbuilder ? got UN prostar whey 10lbs chocolate ? is it halal certified? blush.gif

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Builderballs need to get halal cert to boost his business la.
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Eh, you know Malaysia got their own bb supplement brand. Saw once in paper but i forgot the brand name. Anyone aware of this? Or can anyone list out Malaysia made BB supplement here
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guys just a question..

is it possible for one to get allergies to whey protein??

such as asthma and conjunctivitis?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Jul 2 2010, 12:37 AM)
guys just a question..

is it possible for one to get allergies to whey protein??

such as asthma and conjunctivitis?? hmm.gif
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Although rare, it is possible bro.


Added on July 2, 2010, 10:10 amSeriously??? This thread is still alive? Wtf?
























No.... seriously? Zzz....

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 2 2010, 10:08 AM)
Although rare, it is possible bro.


Added on July 2, 2010, 10:10 amSeriously??? This thread is still alive? Wtf?
No.... seriously? Zzz....
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haha i didn't wanna post another thread regarding whey.. so open up an old one XD..

btw did some googling.. they said whey actually can cure asthma for little children sweat.gif whom are allergic to milks lol..

i stopped taking whey today.. so far no wheezing yet.. im not really sure what im allergic to atm..

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QUOTE(benblitz @ Jun 2 2010, 05:26 PM)
Eh, you know Malaysia got their own bb supplement brand. Saw once in paper but i forgot the brand name. Anyone aware of this? Or can anyone list out Malaysia made BB supplement here
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can share the malaysian whey protein brand?

btw mod can make this sticky?
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QUOTE(taohannan @ May 23 2010, 06:31 PM)
ade whey di perbuat dari susu babi ke? or susu lembu yg tak sembelih? of course la tak sembelih lol
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Whey is basically a by product of cheese manufacture, rennets is used in the cheese manufacture, and then the whey is derived from there. So if the cheese is coagulated using a rennet that is not halal, then they whey that is made from the cheese is not halal.

Every single protein powder I have looked at use animal based rennets

so mmg ramai la muslim kat sini amek whey sebab diorang anggap whey tue just susu LOL

haish..pasal badan hati binasa..
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nak tanya ON Serious Mass Chocolate flavor 12lbs halal tak?
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If there's no HALAL logo on the package, thus it is not proven HALAL.

For all I know, Muscle Juice 2544 and most Horley's product has HALAL logo. Muscle Juice 2600 doesn't. Alternative, you can look for VEGAN certified (there'll also be a logo on package) product such as some Whey Protein from Ultimate Nutrition if you're not confident.
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whey is not vegan. look for vegetarian certified whey if available. So far havent found any.
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 16 2011, 08:17 AM)
whey is not vegan. look for vegetarian certified whey if available. So far havent found any.
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I'm very sorry, its Protein Isolate by Ultimate Nutrition. Uses wheat based protein, suitable for vegan.
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whey protein powder also need halal approve meh...


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whey protein powder also need halal approve meh...
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Every food needs them. Its easier for the muslims to get their food intake without worrying of having haram stuff in there.
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I cannot confirm this. but sometimes, what makes the whey not suitable for halal use is the artificial flavouring thrown in.

yes, whey derived from soy lechitin milk yadaa yadaa yadaa. seems clean huh? but the flavouring is the issue.

artificial vanilla flavouring can contain human hair. recently, from urine of beaver. vanilla extract contain alcohol too.

as for artificial chocolate flavouring, alcohol may be used as well. so yeah. we cannot just look at the source & process of whey alone..
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saya email syarikat ON pastu dia jawab

From: ON Consumer <Consumer@optimumnutrition.com>;


Subject: RE: protein ingredients
Sent: Wed, May 15, 2013 2:59:04 PM

Hello,

Thank you for choosing Optimum Nutrition. Our 100% Gold Standard Whey is lacto-vegetarian friendly. The product does not contain any animal products or by-products save for the whey protein itself which is derived from dairy. The rennet used in the production of our protein is synthetically and/or fungally-derived. . Our main flavors; Vanilla Ice Cream, Double Rich Chocolate, Strawberry, French Vanilla Crème, and Extreme Milk Chocolate, which do happen to contain alcohol at one point in their flavor system process. It’s typical that even if a finished flavor does not contain alcohol, it was used as a solvent in the initial stages.

Hope this helps—best of health
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pastu saya tanya perisa lain plak
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Even if any of the finished flavors do not contain alcohol, it was used in the solvent in the initial stages.
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tumpang tanya, is SAN Mass Effect Halal ?
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searching for HALAL supplement or whey? try horley supplement,this link biggrin.gif
For Malaysia Link http://www.bearmode.com/
for other country,search yourself,hahahah brows.gif
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Try google on 'ISTIHALAH' concept used in Msia and throughout the world. Example :

"Istihala is when something becomes pure. It was najis (impure) but it is now taahir (pure). A good example would be maitah (animal carcass): it is najis, but should it be burned and become ashes, or decompose and become earth, then it is taahir, it is no longer najis. This can happen with dung or feces or whatever. Whenever something changes from one property to another, then the ruling likewise changes.

Example: Let us say that someone uses the fat of a dead animal to make soap. That fat is najis, but the chemical change that it was put through makes it taahir. "




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