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cherroy
post Jul 13 2009, 06:14 PM

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post Jan 4 2010, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(tl007 @ Jan 4 2010, 07:30 PM)
ok..sorry,noob here..so is currency trading actually legal in malaysia? or only with certain brokers?..bcos im planning start an account with fxcm...confused...
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Forex trading is never legal in Malaysia

Today news.
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...3337&sec=nation

Those are overseas brokers, which investors have no protection, so it is investors own responsibility and due dilegence to find out whether they are legitimate brokers or not. Nobody stop or care about or can care about it or stop, if investors want to put money in overseas.

Locallly, no company can operate forex trading, or taking deposit from investors without BNM/SC approval.
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post Jan 5 2010, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Jan 5 2010, 12:17 AM)
cannot forex in malaysia?

currently internet is borderless, i think it will be hard to define "in malaysia".

u might be executing order in malaysia, but trade is done oversea, kindly advise whether malaysian can participate in oversea forex.
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The definition of border is the broker location.

As said, nobody will or can stop you to participate in overseas dealing, but you have no protection and it is your responsibility to find out and do your own due dligence whether those brokers are real and legitimate.


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post Jan 6 2010, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(hewtwok @ Jan 5 2010, 04:32 PM)
They r nabbing individuals i meant us who trade forex, not offering any courses/deposit taking biz...

Can they nab us individuals who invest our $ overseas?
Do they have jurisdiction to control our own hard earn savings?  tongue.gif
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BNM has no intention or targetting on individual.

It is just a pre-cautious to avoid any unwanted circumstances occuring, as investors might not know whether the broker is legitimate or not, or just some con job.

It is to avoid public money being conned instead try to nab individual.

If one wants to invest in overseas on oneself, nobody can stop one doing it. It is your money, you decide how to do it, even one want to throw money into the sea, no one can stop it.
But a lot of people don't know how to do their own due diligence on the legitimate part which is why BNM need to come out this statement as a precautious word.

Unregulated part of issue is very risky, because you don't know whether when you trade the forex, is actually a real trading or not, or just some paper game between broker and you. And another issue is that you money is totally in broker's hand, which you have no control on your money, so if a particular broker is not regulated or not real, then the money is totally at risk all together.
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post Jan 8 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(jurne @ Jan 8 2010, 05:09 PM)
I think gomen not enough money in their coffers. Want people to trade Bursa to inject back money into the economy. Gomen starting to lift subsidies from sugar and stuff. Petrol for big cars also no subsidies soon. Well this is just a theory.

on a side note, do some light reading : 2 Faces of 1 Malaysia
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.p...d-loyarburokcom
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Has explained many times, BNM gain nothing in the process of warning people. BNM warned because it become more rampant and some seminar even claim can get rich with attending seminar/talks or can earn few ten k with just 1k money put in. <--- this is the worrying part.

Because it is your money in risk, as most don't have a clue on forex issue. Even anyone can come out a website to claim as forex broker and tell people to put money in it. Do you know it is real? most don't know.
In actual fact, you never trade forex at all (there is no real currency exchange nor your order buy/sell did send through the actual currencies trading), it is like pips gambling only which based on exchange rate.
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post Jan 19 2010, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(VinniJeyaa @ Jan 19 2010, 03:29 PM)
If we are not buying and selling currencies, what it is that we are buying and selling then?

Eur/Usd are currencies are they not?
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The answer is no currencies trade involved actually, there is no physical or real currency conversion taking place. It is like online gambling which use the forex rate as indicator only

Don't get me wrong, I don't say it is legal, nor illegal in the above statement. Just whatever trade is going on, you don't have real money conversion or money trade in market, so any your buy/sell order from you is not channelled into the real trade, nor affecting the real trade.

For sure it is definitely illegal to trade FX in Malaysia.

But with internet age coming into play, it becomes a grey area. As broker or online gambing is at overseas, your money is at overseas, which Malaysia authorities has no control about it, but you are sending order instruction from Malaysia. So it become a grey area.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 19 2010, 03:51 PM
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post Jan 20 2010, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 19 2010, 04:17 PM)
One more thing, there is no limit to the amount of funds that you can bring into Malaysia, hence it would never be questioned by the bank unless the transfer info wasn't clear and they need more clarification.
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QUOTE(VinniJeyaa @ Jan 19 2010, 08:32 PM)
So if I had Mrs. Miriam Abacha transfer black money in from Nigeria (you get tonnes of these spam emails in your inbox daily for the past 15 years and still do) from an overseas bank in Nigeria to my Maybank account here in Bolehland, to the tune of 175 Million USD, BNM wont question me.  laugh.gif


Added on January 19, 2010, 8:39 pm

Cherroy, going by your definition, wouldn't it be more precise to say that what we do with FX is in fact spread-betting than anything else?
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BNM and banks will question the money inflow due to worry of money laundering. Banks and BNM don't care how and how much money inflow but what they are concern is money laundering.

Buying stocks with contra, short sell, trade in futures derivatives market (besides hedging purposes) are all spread betting as well.

But I don't say it is legal, but there are plenty of non-legitimate scheme that claim to be FX trading as well which in behind run as ponzi scheme only or only care about selling EA only.

As I posted before, it is in grey area.

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post Jan 23 2010, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(hdwarexpert @ Jan 22 2010, 12:31 PM)
Is forex trading legal in Malaysia?

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Simple answer :
It is not legal for any FX trading being done in Malaysia.

From BNM website
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Under the Exchange Control Act 1953 (ECA), it is an offence for a person in Malaysia to buy or sell foreign currency or do any act which involves, is in association with, or is preparatory to, buying or selling of foreign currency with any person, other than an authorised dealer.

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post Feb 3 2010, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Feb 3 2010, 02:12 PM)
Another Russian based forex broker. Actually we should not even call them brokers since they do not act as intermediary as we don't buy/sell currencies with the exchange. Ahh.. Russian forex brokers.. popping out like mushroom.. they are everywhere.
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Or more correct word is pip house? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 18 2010, 11:18 AM

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Somebody please create Forex V7 for continuity of this topic, as this topic has reached more than 125 pages already.


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