For the Margin Level showing in the MT4 beside Free Margin, what you guys think of the percentage will risk the account?
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Aug 21 2009, 04:14 PM
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For the Margin Level showing in the MT4 beside Free Margin, what you guys think of the percentage will risk the account?
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Aug 21 2009, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(NirukaKL @ Aug 21 2009, 11:44 AM) Yes, you are correct, but nowdays alot of brokers account types is confusing people, we cannot blame broker as most people doesn't even bother to learn or read their definition on mini, micro and standard, hence, they dont know mini = 10k, micro = 1k and standard = 100k unit of currencies Not to forget now they even have NaaaaaaNooooo accounts. As long as we understand the basics, there should be no confusion. I don't even bother asking what type of account it is. All we need to know is the currency size per lot and the leverage ratio. Those with the basic knowledge will be able to figure out the rest from there. Next thing you know they'd come out with a pico account and let people trade in cents. Ahhahahahahaha....Mini, micro and standard is just broker account type, to make things easier, if you are confuse with "k" then use this as reference (1.0 = 100,000units of currency) 1.0 = Standard 0.1 = Mini 0.01 = Micro As for leverage, to make things easier, ignore share margin or whatever you learn outside Just always remember that if you use leverage, you are actually multiplying your purchasing power (margin deposit) according to the figure on the right hand side (1:200) |
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Aug 21 2009, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 21 2009, 04:15 PM) Not to forget now they even have NaaaaaaNooooo accounts. As long as we understand the basics, there should be no confusion. I don't even bother asking what type of account it is. All we need to know is the currency size per lot and the leverage ratio. Those with the basic knowledge will be able to figure out the rest from there. Next thing you know they'd come out with a pico account and let people trade in cents. Ahhahahahahaha.... Aiya, more product = higher chance to get different customer ma...forex brokerage business nowdays very competitive....Added on August 21, 2009, 4:25 pm QUOTE(rstusa @ Aug 21 2009, 04:14 PM) For the Margin Level showing in the MT4 beside Free Margin, what you guys think of the percentage will risk the account? For really stable and long lasting 1 = Above 2.5% quite risky liao, cause if you deposit 1000USD 2.5% = 25USD, assume its around 5k base currency, so every pip = 0.5cents = you can withhold drawdown of losses up to 1950 pips, so consider each position you lose like 50pips = you can have 40 loss trades nett (which means after deducting profited positions)...Consider you made 60 loss trade, 20 winning trade = 40 loss trades nett ..... total add up = 80trades only, which average 2 trade per day = 40days (2 months) you finish already... aiyo...i like apek la....so "cheong hei" This post has been edited by NirukaKL: Aug 21 2009, 04:25 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 04:51 PM
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Why is the EU abit bullish today? due to any news?
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Aug 21 2009, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(NirukaKL @ Aug 21 2009, 04:19 PM) Aiya, more product = higher chance to get different customer ma...forex brokerage business nowdays very competitive.... Let me guess what you are trying to say:Added on August 21, 2009, 4:25 pm For really stable and long lasting 1 = Above 2.5% quite risky liao, cause if you deposit 1000USD 2.5% = 25USD, assume its around 5k base currency, so every pip = 0.5cents = you can withhold drawdown of losses up to 1950 pips, so consider each position you lose like 50pips = you can have 40 loss trades nett (which means after deducting profited positions)... Consider you made 60 loss trade, 20 winning trade = 40 loss trades nett ..... total add up = 80trades only, which average 2 trade per day = 40days (2 months) you finish already... aiyo...i like apek la....so "cheong hei" 1)5k is the position size which is 5micro 2)every pips 0.5cents..... i think should be 0.5 dollars or 50cents/pips 3)2.5% = 25USD is the margin deposit at 1:200 leverage |
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Aug 21 2009, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Aug 21 2009, 04:54 PM) Let me guess what you are trying to say: something like that, others is just to explain why above 2.5% is risky....1)5k is the position size which is 5micro 2)every pips 0.5cents..... i think should be 0.5 dollars or 50cents/pips 3)2.5% = 25USD is the margin deposit at 1:200 leverage Added on August 21, 2009, 5:03 pm QUOTE(dannyooi_84 @ Aug 21 2009, 04:51 PM) Germany services sector and France manufacturing sector unexpectedly expended ma.....This post has been edited by NirukaKL: Aug 21 2009, 05:03 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(NirukaKL @ Aug 21 2009, 05:03 PM) something like that, others is just to explain why above 2.5% is risky.... Not just that but the USD index is way too high and the DJ performed 'unexpectedly' yesterday. We know they are all going pull out of USD. Parked the orders expecting the USD to fall and hit all of them, from EURUSD to USDCAD to GBPUSD to USDJPY. All of them just went wawawhomp across my ambush. No need to trade anymore for today.Added on August 21, 2009, 5:03 pm Germany services sector and France manufacturing sector unexpectedly expended ma..... This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Aug 21 2009, 05:17 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 05:47 PM
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Need to read the news more and make my own prediction. noobie me!
Those who long EU..sure profit like crazy... This post has been edited by dannyooi_84: Aug 21 2009, 05:50 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 06:27 PM
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it seems to me that every night our time, starting 8pm, which was New York 8 am, US dollar seem to be gaining against other currency/
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Aug 21 2009, 06:36 PM
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not really...it depends....
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Aug 22 2009, 12:15 AM
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Aug 22 2009, 01:00 PM
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Hmm...waiting for monday to continue my demo trading. Any opinions on EU for this coming week?
Earning many many pips through demo account. Seems that I like forex trading compare to stock market. This post has been edited by dannyooi_84: Aug 22 2009, 01:01 PM |
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Aug 22 2009, 05:50 PM
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danny,since ur on demo..u can try put a sell order ( limit order ) on eu @ 1.4400...
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Aug 22 2009, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(penanghomes @ Aug 22 2009, 05:50 PM) I'm using oanda platform to trade. Still learning and everyday I learn new things. So far I havent tried the sell order thing. I only touch the SL and TP. What is the purpose pf the limit order/sell order?? It can go up sumore? |
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Aug 22 2009, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(dannyooi_84 @ Aug 22 2009, 06:59 PM) I'm using oanda platform to trade. Still learning and everyday I learn new things. So far I havent tried the sell order thing. I only touch the SL and TP. What is the purpose pf the limit order/sell order?? the 'limit' pending orders means you're expecting a reverse to happen.. whereas the 'stop' pending orders means you're expecting the price to continue in the same direction.It can go up sumore? For example if it's 1.5 right now and you're expecting it to drop after it goes up to 1.7, you would put a sell limit. |
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Aug 23 2009, 12:22 PM
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Aug 23 2009, 01:13 PM
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Aug 23 2009, 05:19 PM
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Aug 24 2009, 01:23 PM
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AUD/JPY gave me some pips this morning. too bad..demo pips.! lol
Anyway, will be looking at the EU now. hope to earn some pips there too |
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Aug 24 2009, 01:27 PM
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